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03-22-2015, 04:10 PM #1But she is an American Citizen, so what's your point?This is the problem with Cruz: where would he be right now if his mother weren’t an American citizen?
Uh, hello, you are not a natural-born American citizen from Puerto Rico. You are a US citizen by law, not nature, and not under the US Constitution. Perhaps before you expound on an issue using yourself as some example of one side of it, you should do a little research so you don't look a fool.I don’t even know how to react to the “renewed buzz” that Texas Republican Senator Ted Cruz was born in Canada, but I will try my best, because as natural-born American citizen from Puerto Rico, I demand answers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_...an_citizenship
A natural born citizen under the US Constitution is a person born to two US citizens, natural born or naturalized, on US soil. Is Cruz a natural-born citizen as a matter of evolving law or practice?
Well, when McCain was allowed to run with a Congressional Resolution declaring he was a natural born citizen, a bill introduced by Democrats, who is not a natural born citizen under the Constitution and Obama was allowed to run and occupy the White House who also isn't a natural born citizen under the Constitution, then it seems to me, it would be quite a racist issue by people in either party to raise at this point against Cruz.
The issues of importance in the 2016 elections are a) is the person a US citizen by birth and b) is the person loyal to the people of the United States. If yes to both, then we all need to move forward to run candidates who are loyal citizens and do our best to elect the most loyal one of the batch.
So let the real games begin. We lost the natural born citizen issue when as Republicans we allowed McCain to run on our platform and Democrats lost the issue when they allowed Obama to become President of the United States.
If at some time in the future we would like to actually enforce the US Constitution, there needs to be a clarify made by Congress or just leave the people alone to elect who they want, so long as the person is a citizen of the United States. And this reality makes no one more unhappier than it does me, but that's where we are.
Please do not taint this election with debates over Cruz's citizenship when his mother is a US natural born citizen or anyone else who has at least one parent who is also a natural born citizen. It's not what the founders intended, but that's how and to where our nation has evolved. I have a good friend who was born in Canada to a natural born American woman, and grew up in Canada. He came here on a job to work for a project I was involved in, and there is no better American in the country. My husband was born to 2 US natural born citizens but in a foreign country while the parents were working for an oil company, and there is no better American in the country.
Let it go and stay on the issues, is my recommendation.Last edited by Judy; 03-22-2015 at 04:26 PM.
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03-22-2015, 05:01 PM #2
A few articles about people who are NOT Natural Born Citizens:
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To qualify as a 'natural born Citizen' of the United States, both parents must be US Citizens (either natural born, native born or naturalized Citizens) at the time the child is born in the USA.Last edited by JohnDoe2; 03-22-2015 at 05:51 PM.
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03-22-2015, 05:48 PM #3
The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5, establishes that the President must be a “Natural Born Citizen” at the time the Constitution was written, and at the time “Natural Law” was a Fairly new concept.
(1) Natural Born Citizen Came from the Treatise on Natural Law written by Emmerich de Vattel written in 1758 and translated into English in 1765. The is named “Law of Nations or Properties of Natural Law”. Everyone in Law has known since 1791 that a Natural Born Citizen was defined when it was placed in the Constitution.
(2) John Jay sent a memo to George Washington at the Constitutional Convention, requesting that he add that requirement to the Constitution, which Washington did. The meaning per Vattel is, “Born in country of Citizen Parents.
(3) This was taught in Constitutional Law for 200 years. In 1875 a Supreme Court Ruling, Minor V Happersett ruled that the Natural Born Citizen means, “both parents” had to be USA Citizens.
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03-23-2015, 12:02 PM #4
Sen. Ted Cruz announces presidential bid, vows to 'stand for liberty'
Published March 23, 2015 FoxNews.com

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Texas Republican Sen. Ted Cruz, ticking off a litany of President Obama policies he opposes, promised Monday to return to a government by Constitution and "stand for liberty" as he officially announced his 2016 presidential bid.
Cruz made the announcement during a speech at Liberty University in Lynchburg, Va. He earlier declared his candidacy via a Twitter post early Monday, becoming the first major candidate to officially declare.
The 30-second video accompanying the tweet featured Cruz speaking over a montage of farm fields, city skylines and American landmarks and symbols, calling on "a new generation of courageous conservatives to help make America great again."
"I'm ready to stand with you to lead the fight," Cruz says as the video concludes. Shortly after midnight Monday, the campaign had launched its website.
He is expected to start his campaign immediately rather than launch an exploratory committee, which many do as a precursor to a campaign.
Watch Cruz on Fox News' "Hannity" on Monday at 10 p.m. ET.
Amy Kremer, the former head of the Tea Party Express, told the Associated Press Sunday that the Republican pool of candidates "will take a quantum leap forward" with Cruz's announcement, adding that it "will excite the base in a way we haven't seen in years."
Other candidates who have been rumored to run for the GOP nomination include former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush; Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker; Florida Sen. Marco Rubio; and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul.
Cruz, 44, a favorite of the Tea Party movement who has made headlines for his conservative stance on immigration, has gone after other Republicans for their more moderate views.
In December, Cruz defied party leaders to force a vote on opposing Obama's executive actions on immigration. The strategy failed, and led several of his Republican colleagues to call Cruz out. "You should have an end goal in sight if you're going to do these types of things and I don't see an end goal other than irritating a lot of people," Utah Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch said at the time.
"Cruz is going to make it tough for all of the candidates who are fighting to emerge as the champion of the anti-establishment wing of the party," GOP strategist Kevin Madden told AP. "That is starting to look like quite a scrum where lots of candidates will be throwing some sharp elbows."
"He's awfully good at making promises that he knows the GOP can't keep and pushing for unachievable goals, but he seems very popular with right wing," added veteran Republican strategist John Feehery.
"Cruz is a lot smarter than the typical darling of the right, and that makes him more dangerous to guys like Scott Walker and Rand Paul."
In recent weeks, Cruz has faced questions over his own citizenship. Two former Justice Department lawyers said last week there is no doubt the Canadian-born senator is eligible to run for the White House.
"There is no question that Senator Cruz has been a citizen from birth and is thus a 'natural born Citizen' within the meaning of the Constitution," Neal Katyal, acting solicitor general in the Obama administration, and Paul Clemente, solicitor general in the President George W. Bush administration, wrote in a joint article.
Anti-Cruz "birthers" challenged his citizenship status because he was born in Canada. However, two years ago, Cruz released his birth certificate showing his mother was a U.S. citizen born in Delaware, presumably satisfying the requirements for presidential eligibility as a "natural born citizen."
Last month, Cruz addressed the citizenship issue during a question-and-answer session with moderator Hannity at the Conservative Political Action Conference. “I was born in Calgary. My mother was an American citizen by birth,” Cruz said. “Under federal law, that made me an American citizen by birth. The Constitution requires that you be a natural-born citizen.”
With a little more than a year and half to go before the 2016 election, speculation is heating up that several presidential contenders will soon officially throw their hats into the ring. Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who enjoys a wide lead among potential Democratic candidates despite the recent uproar over her use of a personal email account while leading the State Department, is expected to announce her candidacy next month.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015...sidential-bid/
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03-23-2015, 03:26 PM #5
Ted Cruz Has a Weird Obsession With Abolishing the IRS. About That.
By Jordan Weissmann
Imagine. Photo by Mark Wilson/Getty Images
Ted Cruz announced today he is running for president.
It is what it is. The first-term U.S. senator from Texas became famous as a conservative firebrand who made life hell for Congress' Republican leadership by helping force a government shutdown, ostensibly in a failed attempt to defund Obamacare, or at least make himself a semihousehold name. It'll be interesting to see if the man has a similar effect in the presidential primary. Will his mere presence force other candidates to veer hard-right in order to avoid looking insufficiently dogmatic, thus lighting aflame their chances in the general election? Or will he simply make Jeb Bush look palatably mild for the rest of the electorate? Time shall tell.
In any event, the conservative id now has an official candidate, which means some of his pet policy ideas will get a little more attention. My personal favorite, which he mentioned during his speech today, is Cruz's oft-repeated conviction that we should eliminate the Internal Revenue Service—or, as he now likes to half-jokingly put it these days, "abolish the IRS, take all 125,000 IRS agents and put them on our southern border.” Cruz says this would be his second priority, after repealing Obamacare (of course). And it's kind of fun to contemplate. The U.S.-Mexico border is 1,954 miles long. Assuming we rotated those 125,000 newly reassigned agents on three separate eight-hour shifts (gotta guard the border 24/7, after all), we could install one agent roughly every 250 feet. That's less than a football field, people. We could basically handle border security like the world's largest game of Red Rover. Weekends would be a little more porous, but that's what overtime pay is for.
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Anyway, getting rid of the IRS would still leave the small matter of collecting taxes up in the air. Because, no, Cruz does not want to eliminate taxes altogether.
Borrowing from Rick Perry and Steve Forbes before him, he wants to create a low, low flat tax that everybody could submit on a form the size of a postcard. Even that light level of taxation would require some enforcement, and his spokeswoman has previously acknowledged that the senator thinks there would need to be "a small department that would enforce the tax code.”
So, why bother with all this talk of abolishing the IRS altogether, if we'd need some government agency to do the exact same thing? It goes back to the conservative trope that President Obama has "weaponized" the IRS—remember the scandal over how it allegedly targeted Tea Party groups for audits?—and the only solution now is to tear out the whole bureaucracy, root and branch. “The last two years have fundamentally changed the dynamics of this debate [on the tax code],” Cruz said at a Heritage Foundation speech in January, “as we have seen the weaponization of the IRS, as we have seen the Obama administration using the IRS in a partisan manner to punish its political enemies.”
In any event, we look forward to hearing Cruz's plan for negotiating a Ukrainian peace deal through a game of Duck Duck Goose.*
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03-23-2015, 04:26 PM #7
My strong advice to Republican candidates who want to reform the tax code with the FairTax, just say so. There's no reason to dance around it with a flat tax on a post card as some "transition", Herman Cain tried this with his 999 plan, when what he really wanted and really planned to do was help pass the FairTax, because this voter doesn't even want to fill out a post card and report income or pay income tax to the federal government. I'll gladly pay the 23% inclusive FairTax when I voluntarily decide to purchase new goods and services and as a happy taxpayer I will spend much on such. Let those individuals and companies who like showing their underwear to the government and reporting into the Nanny State every time the Nanny says so, adjust to the restored freedom of a country with no federal income tax, they'll soon be counting their money and going oh what a bad boy or girl I was to have ever opposed the FairTax. Whatever their beefs are, they're not legitimate and they'll adjust to the truth, the same way employers of illegal aliens will adjust to the new system that actually forbids hiring illegal aliens or legal aliens when there are American workers somewhere in America, available to do the job.
Finally, there is no time to waste on any intermediary step to the FairTax. We need it all and we need it all now. America can no longer withstand the burden of a proven failed mandatory income tax that steals their earnings and doesn't pay the bills, a proven failed mandatory health insurance system that was just another form of government welfare we can't afford, or massive immigration both legal and illegal that puts Americans out of work and deflates our wages and earnings, against our wills, and no fellow citizen of this country should ever, ever expect or demand through the rule of law, that another American forfeit their freedom, income or job security so someone else can realize some monetary benefit in return.
This is America, and it's time we all started acting and thinking like Americans who defeated the British Empire, who fought a Civil War to end slavery in the United States, and who fought and won 2 World Wars on two fronts in less than 3 years and 8 months, instead of the bunch of losers we've allowed our government to make US.
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‘The View’ Launches Ted Cruz Birther Movement Following His Presidential Bid (Video)
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Jordan Chariton
March 23, 2015
“The View” panel took on the first official presidential candidate, Ted Cruz, on Monday when a guest co-host rallied for a birther movement to haunt the Canadian-born politician’s campaign.
“He was not born in America, he was born in Canada, so how can he run for president?” comedian Michelle Williams said. “I’m a Ted Cruz birther — I want to see the birth certificate.”
Rosie Perez blasted the Texas senator for his denial of climate change, and backed California Governor Jerry Brown’s criticism of Cruz as being unfit for the role of president during a “Meet the Press” appearance on Sunday.
“For you to say, as a Republican, him not being born in this country is the least of his problems is insane, insane; I love you darling, but with the birthers and all of that stuff, they made it a huge issue,” Perez said to co-host Nicolle Wallace.
Whoopi Goldberg suggested it’s not fun being on the receiving end of the birther movement, like President Obama has been, and chimed in: “I want to see your birth certificate.”
Cruz announced his run for president via Twitter on Sunday night, and formally announced his run at Liberty University Monday.
https://www.yahoo.com/tv/s/view-star...164505735.html
Video at link. I didn't watch as I can't stand these loud mouthed women.
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03-23-2015, 04:55 PM #9
Where They Stand: Ted Cruz on Key Issues of 2016 Campaign
AUSTIN, Texas — Mar 23, 2015, 3:23 PM ET
By WILL WEISSERT Associated Press

The Associated Press
Texas Sen. Ted Cruz announced his 2016 campaign for president Monday, hoping to energize the evangelical wing of the Republican Party and supplement his already strong support among tea party and grassroots conservatives. Here's a snapshot of where Cruz stands on issues likely to be debated during the GOP's presidential primaries.
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IMMIGRATION
The son of a Cuban immigrant, Cruz has been among his party's harshest critics of the Obama administration's executive actions on immigration, decrying them as "amnesty." He opposes a popular Texas law offering in-state tuition at public universities to the children of people in the U.S. illegally, and kept a campaign promise by pushing to triple the size of the U.S. Border Patrol. Cruz also has been criticized by Texas Democrats for more frequently visiting the early presidential primary states of Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina than his home state's border with Mexico.
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FOREIGN POLICY
He favors deploying U.S. ground forces to battle Islamic State militants if necessary, warns that failure to secure the U.S.-Mexico border means terrorists could slip over to U.S. soil, and pledges firm solidarity with Israel. He was among 47 senators who signed a letter warning that Congress could upend the deal being worked out by the U.S., Iran and others to control Tehran's nuclear program. The letter infuriated the White House, which considers a diplomatic deal the best way to dismantle Iran's nuclear program. But Cruz remained defiant, saying he'd sign it again if given the chance.
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BUDGETS AND ENTITLEMENTS
Cruz talked for more than 21 hours in the Senate against President Barack Obama's health care law, solidifying himself as a tea party star. He's also vexed fellow Republicans by opposing their past budgets, demanding even deeper spending cuts while keeping the defense budget flush. He'd abolish the IRS and institute a flat tax, ideas that often float in GOP discourse but have never gone anywhere. A simple flat tax can only work by significantly increasing taxes for most low- and middle-income families or by cutting spending far more deeply than most lawmakers are willing to go.
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COMMON CORE
Opposing what he calls Washington bureaucrats overriding state and local school curriculums, Cruz has for months made "repeal Common Core" a rallying cry, even though the initiative was led by governors. That sets him apart from former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush. But Cruz agrees with Bush on the need to expand "school choice," promoting charter schools and helping parents get state money to remove their children from struggling public schools and send them to private and religious alternatives.
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SOCIAL ISSUES
Cruz has pushed for barring federal judges from overriding state bans on gay marriage. He opposes abortion even in cases of rape, and once argued on Texas' behalf before the U.S. Supreme Court, successfully defending a federal law against late-term abortions. Cruz bucked the tradition of courting votes in agriculturally friendly Iowa by opposing renewable federal fuel standards that include ethanol subsidies. He's also opposed so-called net neutrality, likening it to "Obamacare for the Internet" and saying government regulation of cyberspace will stifle innovation.
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CLIMATE CHANGE
When Cruz recently startled a New Hampshire 3-year-old girl by declaring "your world is on fire," he was attacking the Obama administration's foreign policy — not talking about climate change. Cruz says that for the past 17 years, satellite images show that "there's been zero global warming." But scientific experts say satellite data is the wrong way to measure global warming, which the vast majority of scientists say is happening and is caused by the burning of fossil fuels. Temperatures at ground level show that the planet has warmed since 1998 and that 2014 was the hottest on record. Cruz has acknowledged that climate change is real — but does not attribute that to human activity.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireS...inglePage=true
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03-23-2015, 05:50 PM #10
Looking at the "Fair Tax," an Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy (ITEP) study found that the bottom 80 percent of taxpayers would see their federal taxes go up by about $3,200 on average annually. In contrast, ITEP found that the top 1 percent of taxpayers would receive an average annual tax cut of $225,000.
How Presidential Candidate Ted Cruz Would Radically Increase Taxes on Everyone But the Rich
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