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    Opinion: Sen. Cruz might face birther problem, isn’t that ironic?

    Opinion: Sen. Cruz might face birther problem, isn’t that ironic?

    by Julio Ricardo Varela5:00 am on 03/15/2013

    I don’t even know how to react to the “renewed buzz” that Texas Republican Senator Ted Cruz was born in Canada, but I will try my best, because as natural-born American citizen from Puerto Rico, I demand answers.
    This all started when FOX’s Carl Cameron said on March 8 that Cruz would not be eligible to run for President in 2016 because he was born in Canada. Here is what Cameron said:
    “And Rubio’s not the GOP’s only Latino up-and-comer. Texas freshman Ted Cruz’s feisty Senate debut had some Tea Partiers noting that in 2016, he’d have as much Senate experience as President Obama did when he first ran. But Cruz was born in Canada and is constitutionally ineligible.”
    My first reaction was that I should make a call to Maricopa Country Sheriff Joe Arpaio to see if he can send his Cold Case Posse to Calgary to expose such un-American developments.
    Then I thought I should reach out to the Breitbarts of the world to see what can be done and demand that the truth be told about Cruz’s Canadian past. However, it appears that Breitbart has already called out Cameron for false information, and has already written its constitutional interpretation of what it is to be a “natural-born citizen.” Besides, Sen. John McCain was born in the Panama Canal zone, and he was eligible.
    You see, the U.S. Constitution does indeed leave it wide open when it states the following: “No Person except a natural-born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President…” Cruz’s defenders are quick to point out that Cruz’s mom is an American citizen, and even though his dad is Cuban, Cruz is an American citizen because his mom is one.
    Does that sound familiar at all? Anyone?
    Time to get those Air Canada tickets for the Cold Case Posse so that we as Americans are absolutely sure. I mean, the last thing I would want in this country is Canadian Cruz fooling us all in 2016. Next thing you know, a President Cruz would enact the Tim Horton Hockey Act of 2017, requiring that all young Americans under 12 buy ice skates and find their nearest frozen pond. The horror.
    Let’s be real: the political hypocrisy is full tilt with this story. To think that the very same argument that President Obama made to “prove” he was born in Hawaii is now being used for Senator Cruz is beyond ironic. Cruz’s defenders all use his patriotism as proof that he is 100% American. Guess people have never seen the “Manchurian Candidate?”
    A Cruz spokesperson sent via e-mail a response stating:
    Sen. Cruz is a U.S. citizen by birth, having been born to an American-born mother. He is focused entirely on his new role in the Senate, and on working every day to represent Texas and defend conservative principles in the Senate.
    Birtherism aside, the bigger hypocrisy is Cruz himself. Yes, the Latino “up and comer” Ted Cruz has already gone extreme in the immigration reform debate when he issued the following statement on January 28:
    I have deep concerns with the proposed path to citizenship. To allow those who came here illegally to be placed on such a path is both inconsistent with rule of law and profoundly unfair to the millions of legal immigrants who waited years, if not decades, to come to America legally.
    Dude, you were born in Canada. Seriously?
    This is the problem with Cruz: where would he be right now if his mother weren’t an American citizen? How easy would it been for him and his family to cross the Canadian border and thrive in the United States? What about the others who share his same last name who aren’t as lucky as the senator from Texas? Canadian Cruz is a classic example of the “I got mine” mentality. And that is perhaps the most un-American attitude of them all.
    http://nbclatino.com/2013/03/15/opinion-sen-cruz-might-face-birther-problem-isnt-that-ironic/
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    Senator Rubio is an “anchor baby”, not a natural born American citizen as required by the constitution . . .

    http://www.alipac.us/f9/anchor-baby-rubio-274584/
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    This is the problem with Cruz: where would he be right now if his mother weren’t an American citizen?
    But she is an American Citizen, so what's your point?

    I don’t even know how to react to the “renewed buzz” that Texas Republican Senator Ted Cruz was born in Canada, but I will try my best, because as natural-born American citizen from Puerto Rico, I demand answers.
    Uh, hello, you are not a natural-born American citizen from Puerto Rico. You are a US citizen by law, not nature, and not under the US Constitution. Perhaps before you expound on an issue using yourself as some example of one side of it, you should do a little research so you don't look a fool.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_...an_citizenship

    A natural born citizen under the US Constitution is a person born to two US citizens, natural born or naturalized, on US soil. Is Cruz a natural-born citizen as a matter of evolving law or practice?

    Well, when McCain was allowed to run with a Congressional Resolution declaring he was a natural born citizen, a bill introduced by Democrats, who is not a natural born citizen under the Constitution and Obama was allowed to run and occupy the White House who also isn't a natural born citizen under the Constitution, then it seems to me, it would be quite a racist issue by people in either party to raise at this point against Cruz.

    The issues of importance in the 2016 elections are a) is the person a US citizen by birth and b) is the person loyal to the people of the United States. If yes to both, then we all need to move forward to run candidates who are loyal citizens and do our best to elect the most loyal one of the batch.

    So let the real games begin. We lost the natural born citizen issue when as Republicans we allowed McCain to run on our platform and Democrats lost the issue when they allowed Obama to become President of the United States.

    If at some time in the future we would like to actually enforce the US Constitution, there needs to be a clarify made by Congress or just leave the people alone to elect who they want, so long as the person is a citizen of the United States. And this reality makes no one more unhappier than it does me, but that's where we are.

    Please do not taint this election with debates over Cruz's citizenship when his mother is a US natural born citizen or anyone else who has at least one parent who is also a natural born citizen. It's not what the founders intended, but that's how and to where our nation has evolved. I have a good friend who was born in Canada to a natural born American woman, and grew up in Canada. He came here on a job to work for a project I was involved in, and there is no better American in the country. My husband was born to 2 US natural born citizens but in a foreign country while the parents were working for an oil company, and there is no better American in the country.

    Let it go and stay on the issues, is my recommendation.
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    A few articles about people who are NOT Natural Born Citizens:

    http://www.alipac.us/f31/barack-obam...tioned-129743/

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    http://www.alipac.us/f19/natural-bor...ocrats-307665/

    To qualify as a 'natural born Citizen' of the United States, both parents must be US Citizens (either natural born, native born or naturalized Citizens) at the time the child is born in the USA.
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    The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5, establishes that the President must be a “Natural Born Citizen” at the time the Constitution was written, and at the time “Natural Law” was a Fairly new concept.

    (1) Natural Born Citizen Came from the Treatise on Natural Law written by Emmerich de Vattel written in 1758 and translated into English in 1765. The is named “Law of Nations or Properties of Natural Law”. Everyone in Law has known since 1791 that a Natural Born Citizen was defined when it was placed in the Constitution.

    (2) John Jay sent a memo to George Washington at the Constitutional Convention, requesting that he add that requirement to the Constitution, which Washington did. The meaning per Vattel is, “Born in country of Citizen Parents.

    (3) This was taught in Constitutional Law for 200 years. In 1875 a Supreme Court Ruling, Minor V Happersett ruled that the Natural Born Citizen means, “both parents” had to be USA Citizens.

    NOTE: All of this was done to PREVENT a Person from being influenced by Foreign Religions and or Communist Socialist way of Government…
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    Sen. Ted Cruz announces presidential bid, vows to 'stand for liberty'

    Published March 23, 2015 FoxNews.com



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    Texas Republican Sen. Ted Cruz, ticking off a litany of President Obama policies he opposes, promised Monday to return to a government by Constitution and "stand for liberty" as he officially announced his 2016 presidential bid.

    Cruz made the announcement during a speech at Liberty University in Lynchburg, Va. He earlier declared his candidacy via a Twitter post early Monday, becoming the first major candidate to officially declare.




    The 30-second video accompanying the tweet featured Cruz speaking over a montage of farm fields, city skylines and American landmarks and symbols, calling on "a new generation of courageous conservatives to help make America great again."

    "I'm ready to stand with you to lead the fight," Cruz says as the video concludes. Shortly after midnight Monday, the campaign had launched its website.


    He is expected to start his campaign immediately rather than launch an exploratory committee, which many do as a precursor to a campaign.

    Watch Cruz on Fox News' "Hannity" on Monday at 10 p.m. ET.
    Amy Kremer, the former head of the Tea Party Express, told the Associated Press Sunday that the Republican pool of candidates "will take a quantum leap forward" with Cruz's announcement, adding that it "will excite the base in a way we haven't seen in years."

    Other candidates who have been rumored to run for the GOP nomination include former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush; Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker; Florida Sen. Marco Rubio; and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul.


    Cruz, 44, a favorite of the Tea Party movement who has made headlines for his conservative stance on immigration, has gone after other Republicans for their more moderate views.


    In December, Cruz defied party leaders to force a vote on opposing Obama's executive actions on immigration. The strategy failed, and led several of his Republican colleagues to call Cruz out. "You should have an end goal in sight if you're going to do these types of things and I don't see an end goal other than irritating a lot of people," Utah Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch said at the time.


    "Cruz is going to make it tough for all of the candidates who are fighting to emerge as the champion of the anti-establishment wing of the party," GOP strategist Kevin Madden told AP. "That is starting to look like quite a scrum where lots of candidates will be throwing some sharp elbows."


    "He's awfully good at making promises that he knows the GOP can't keep and pushing for unachievable goals, but he seems very popular with right wing," added veteran Republican strategist John Feehery.

    "Cruz is a lot smarter than the typical darling of the right, and that makes him more dangerous to guys like Scott Walker and Rand Paul."


    In recent weeks, Cruz has faced questions over his own citizenship. Two former Justice Department lawyers said last week there is no doubt the Canadian-born senator is eligible to run for the White House.


    "There is no question that Senator Cruz has been a citizen from birth and is thus a 'natural born Citizen' within the meaning of the Constitution," Neal Katyal, acting solicitor general in the Obama administration, and Paul Clemente, solicitor general in the President George W. Bush administration, wrote in a joint article.


    Anti-Cruz "birthers" challenged his citizenship status because he was born in Canada. However, two years ago, Cruz released his birth certificate showing his mother was a U.S. citizen born in Delaware, presumably satisfying the requirements for presidential eligibility as a "natural born citizen."


    Last month, Cruz addressed the citizenship issue during a question-and-answer session with moderator Hannity at the Conservative Political Action Conference. “I was born in Calgary. My mother was an American citizen by birth,” Cruz said. “Under federal law, that made me an American citizen by birth. The Constitution requires that you be a natural-born citizen.”


    With a little more than a year and half to go before the 2016 election, speculation is heating up that several presidential contenders will soon officially throw their hats into the ring. Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who enjoys a wide lead among potential Democratic candidates despite the recent uproar over her use of a personal email account while leading the State Department, is expected to announce her candidacy next month.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015...sidential-bid/

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    Ted Cruz Has a Weird Obsession With Abolishing the IRS. About That.

    By Jordan Weissmann

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    Ted Cruz announced today he is running for president.

    It is what it is. The first-term U.S. senator from Texas became famous as a conservative firebrand who made life hell for Congress' Republican leadership by helping force a government shutdown, ostensibly in a failed attempt to defund Obamacare, or at least make himself a semihousehold name. It'll be interesting to see if the man has a similar effect in the presidential primary. Will his mere presence force other candidates to veer hard-right in order to avoid looking insufficiently dogmatic, thus lighting aflame their chances in the general election? Or will he simply make Jeb Bush look palatably mild for the rest of the electorate? Time shall tell.


    In any event, the conservative id now has an official candidate, which means some of his pet policy ideas will get a little more attention. My personal favorite, which he mentioned during his speech today, is Cruz's oft-repeated conviction that we should eliminate the Internal Revenue Service—or, as he now likes to half-jokingly put it these days, "abolish the IRS, take all 125,000 IRS agents and put them on our southern border.” Cruz says this would be his second priority, after repealing Obamacare (of course). And it's kind of fun to contemplate. The U.S.-Mexico border is 1,954 miles long. Assuming we rotated those 125,000 newly reassigned agents on three separate eight-hour shifts (gotta guard the border 24/7, after all), we could install one agent roughly every 250 feet. That's less than a football field, people. We could basically handle border security like the world's largest game of Red Rover. Weekends would be a little more porous, but that's what overtime pay is for.

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    Anyway, getting rid of the IRS would still leave the small matter of collecting taxes up in the air. Because, no, Cruz does not want to eliminate taxes altogether.

    Borrowing from Rick Perry and Steve Forbes before him, he wants to create a low, low flat tax that everybody could submit on a form the size of a postcard. Even that light level of taxation would require some enforcement, and his spokeswoman has previously acknowledged that the senator thinks there would need to be "a small department that would enforce the tax code.”


    So, why bother with all this talk of abolishing the IRS altogether, if we'd need some government agency to do the exact same thing? It goes back to the conservative trope that President Obama has "weaponized" the IRS—remember the scandal over how it allegedly targeted Tea Party groups for audits?—and the only solution now is to tear out the whole bureaucracy, root and branch. “The last two years have fundamentally changed the dynamics of this debate [on the tax code],” Cruz said at a Heritage Foundation speech in January, “as we have seen the weaponization of the IRS, as we have seen the Obama administration using the IRS in a partisan manner to punish its political enemies.”

    In any event, we look forward to hearing Cruz's plan for negotiating a Ukrainian peace deal through a game of Duck Duck Goose.*

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/...bolishing.html
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