Thread: Pat Buchanans view on the Iowa Caucuses

If the Repbublicans nominate Huckster or McLoser, they deserve to lose!! The Dems are salivating at the idea of one of those two going against Obama!!

Pat Buchanan, eloquent as always.....Pat is describing a real trend in this nation. In a way, it is "The ALIPAC effect." Disenchanted Republicans, looking away from the GOP and their front-runners. Conservatives in this nation may agree with many fundamental principals of the GOP, but many are VERY disillusioned with what the GOP has done with immigration, trade, and the war. This site is made up of a lot of disenchanted Republicans who came to realise that the GOP is not really all that great on immigration, and some still awakening to the fact that they are diametrically opposed to us on trade. Others are against the war. Of course, ALIPAC is made up of a huge cross-section of America, including former Dems and independents. But its roots as a refugee camp from FreeRepublic is exactly what Buchanan is adressing here. The conservative base of the Rep party finds itself unrepresented on the most fundamental of issues.

'Tis time for a new party.

Chexfive 1-8-08

Thank you BEARFLAGREPUBLIC,
Pat, keep it up!

John McCain, you can spend your whole fortune and lifetime saying that we should give Amnesty to the illegals, but it won't make it true! You sir, are a loser!

What we are saying by giving Amnesty to the law breakers is it's ok to get here by whatever means, stay here by whatever means, make money by whatever means and what it does is set the stage for the next wave of illegals to come in, which is just what the employers want. Once we say, it ain't so bad if you came here illegally (thats why we gave you amnesty) then obviously if we can let them stay, we must need more or more wouldn't be coming, thus it turns into a slave economy because we will soon have cheaper and cheaper workers coming here. Next thing you know they will be bringing in Chinese Nationals by NAFTA super hiway in by the Trailer load to work at the chinese companies they are buying up. And if we say no, they just close it or move it to china, all in spite of us. This is the problem with governments mixing financials with other foriegn governments. This is why the deficit is so crucial to America, when we have to borrow vast sums of money from other countries we allow them into all our markets, and every place they should not be.

GOVCO RULES!

The fact is, the government is in such a huge hole there are two ways to get this country back financially. One is to cut all the fat and get back to responsibility, a soveriegn nation and the rule of law, so as to leave better for generations of future Americans. Which this will never happen and Red Blooded Americans are going extinct really fast because we literally have a world takeover of our country from within the government, corporate America and about 1500 outside forces, then you have other global organizations like the NWO, CFR, SPP and all the others selling us out for a few dollars. So chances are, we have already seen the last days of America as you and I knew it growing up only a few years ago.

The other way to get out of this massive mess that we're in is, and the way it will happen because of the lack of responsibility, a soveriegn nation and the rule of law is by MORE SPENDING, MORE BIG GOVERNMENT, MORE GLOBAL TRADE, MORE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, MORE OUTSOURCING AMERICAN JOBS and more of everything that is a problem. Its like saying I'm going to get out of debt by paying it off with a credit card. Thats how big government solves problems. Look at the 1986 Reagan Amnesty. If it was such a huge problem for America and Americans why pass amnesty and then allow alot more illegals to enter the country after they passed it? Because it made few high rollers rich and alot of people poorer. But it boosted production and that is what govco cashed in on. I'm sick of hearing how all the candidates (except Ron Paul) care about the American people when they don't give a crap about the American people. We heard all of the republicans and I'm sure the dems are the same way, boosting about "I've been to 30 - 40 - 50 countries and I know how to conduct foriegn relations" when its obviuos you've been flying around the world at our expense on behalf of the CFR selling us out! Surely if all these politicians are so damned concerned about America you could have banned together and got something done even if it was outside the walls of government. Just go around the people in government that don't want to do the right thing for America. If the CFR can do it, then a band of all caring politicians that know everything should be able to accomplish something for the American people!

Why things won't change now - (and why Ron Paul doesn't have a chance at winning, I'm very sorry to say ).
The main reason is this. Anytime you have candidates that are for MORE BIG and even BIGGER GOVERNMENT versus ones that are for cutting government the ones that always want bigger government prevail.

Why?
Because government has to many people on the take.
21 million government workers(2006 census) , 4 million welfare recipients, 3 million armed forces, 2 million companies on the corporate welfare rolls. Then government owes to much money. 25 million retired social security recipients, medicaid, medicare and on and on and on. Thats 60 Million people total right there. Its been shown in all cases except with welfare that people that have jobs where the government plays a role, the voter turn out is greater. And among the 21 million (2004 census) government workers 75% voted in the 2004 election.
The 2004 election census report also showed that the higher the paycheck the higher voter turnout was. The lowest was people making less than $10,000 at 36.5% of registered voters actually voted in the 2004 election. The highest group was those making over $150,000 a year, they turned out 78.3% of registered voters with over twice the rate of the lowest income group. Now, there is 2 for 1 voting!

The Break Down -
21 million government workers (2006).
Government workers never vote for smaller government.
When someone relies on the government paycheck, thay do not want to see their job gone. As nobody wants to see their job disappear the govco workers are really looking out for their jobs. Lets face it 90% of government jobs pay better than the private sector, they have more and better benefits than the private sector, they get cost of living raises every year or two and they can take unlimited leave of absence if they choose to whatever reason. Its a great deal compared to the private sector. Another reason we usually wind up getting EVEN BIGGER government voted in is because those workers that are on govco's payroll look at it like this. If government expands, then I can move up and get a raise, a bonus and seniority and the less likely I'll be laid off should any downsizing come about. And the number one reason to work for govco is ................. its the only job with any long term stability. About the only place you can work for 30 years anymore is in the government.
The government has over 21 million workers (12.5% (16 million) of all voters that voted in 2004 (126 million).

There are 25 million retired people.
Are they going to vote for cutting spending when their social security is in jepordy? I'm not saying they are selfish, its their money but when politicians lie sooner or later nobody believes them anymore, hence the 11% approval rating of congress. So in the minds of the retired when you talk about cutting the expenditures of the federal government, nothing is off the table, including their social security. Remember, people had their pensions jerked out from under them without notice a couple of years ago. So, in most peoples mind anything can happen and everybody is at risk. Its called instability and this often occurs when the rule of law is ignored and your countries taken over by global elites and illegal immigrants.

Then you have 4 million on welfare.
(35% voted in 2004. another 1.4 million votes for big government).
When you have illegal immigrants running rampet the people get mad and suck everything they can get off govco. The people competing with the illegals know nothing will be done about it and they are so mad they will sit home and collect welfare instead of working their tails off for $6 and hour. Then you also have the illegals gaming the system. I think this number is really low but I couldn't find anymore data on it.

Then you have 9 million businesses (2006).
(80% to 90% using illigal immigrants) so that computes to (80% of 9 million) 7.2 miilion voters. Then say half of those business owners have a business partner or a spouse and a child that are also benefitting off the illegals, for a total of 10.8 million voters. Then say 1 out of 7 have a child that votes for a big government cadidate (its all about security) for a total of 12.34 million. Another 12.34 million votes for a big government candidate. So we have 12.34 million voters that are going to vote for a candidate that thinks illegal immigration is good because it is for them, and their children that might vote as well. This doesn't even include the reality that most of the $50 million companies (160,000) and up have many board members and so on, swelling the number of big government supporters.

So, right now we're up to about 60 million votes for govco or 48% of the total 126 million votes in 2004. Which means we have to have 48% to vote against big government just to level the playing field. Thats a total of 96% of all votes.

That is why we always get big government candidates as the last two candidates for the Presidential Election.

It sure looks like we're headed for more BIGGER GOVERNMENT.
Look who the popular ones are, the ones that want to give everything to everyone and pay for it tomorrow or have your kids pay for it later down the road. And they'll pay alright! But this time more than money is at stake, the future of America and our culture and even our bloodlines are at stake here. We all heard the reasons the politicians wanted to let every foreigner and culture come to America is because they wanted diversity and harmony among the races, but really its all about global government. If it were really about diversity and harmony there wouldn't be 20 million illegals out in the streets running over Americans. There wouldn't be 1,500 ethnoecentric groups out here calling for Amnesty and using our money to fight us and change our laws. There wouldn't be foreigners coming to have anchor babies and killing Americans. Where is the harmony? The politicians have put the burden soley on Americans to make love when we are being slaughtered. The real reason is globalism, to erase the American bloodline and history, the great melting pot of world cultures. So many cultures that everyday of the calander is filled with foriegn and religeous holidays not born in this country. Even though, the American tax dollars are spent to support it so that we may make foreigners feel welcome and without prejiduce even while they seek to change our culture, but we must preserve theirs. Where thousands of foreign groups recieve grants and monies from our government to protest and rally against the American peoples laws. I ask you would this be accepted in any other country? No, it wouldn't! As we print fiat money we are also making fiat Americans. As the dollar goes down with every new printed batch of counterfit currency so does the value of an American citizen when they are among counterfit Americans. As America's debt is increased around the world the American Peoples debt is increased. All the foreigners can go home at anytime without one bit of responsibility for the debt or moral or economic havoc they've placed on Americans. I'm sure if we had a very large attack that killed 100,000 people here in America that these foreigners would be on a fast train out, they wouldn't fight for their freedom in their country and they won't fight for it here either. Except we have a bunch of politicians here in America that wants to feed us another lie, the lie that Globalism and Global trade are all that matter anymore. Its in our best interest and in the best interest of the world. Well, Mr. Bush why don't you ask the American people what is in the best interest for Americans? Why don't you ask the people in Europe how they like the European Union? Why don't you ask the People of Canada how they feel about it? If you love America more than you do the stinking Amero, then why not let the American people decide on these issues and illegal immigration with a national referendum? It's because you know the answer and if you didn't have the security detail to hide behind for the rest of your life, I'd bet you'd do what really is in the best interest of America. As long as the crooks have body guards and all the guns there is no accountability and there is no saving America. Go down the list of candidates and you will see another panel of sell outs. Don't look at them and say "who can I trust this time?" you better be thinking, who am I going to be hating in four years. Because in 4 years you are going to be hurting alot more than you know. If you think everything is fine right now its because the trouble hasn't reached your little insulated world yet, but its just a matter of time, even if you are a man with a few million dollars, your time will come sooner or later, the globalist will have it all, and then whats yours is theirs anytime they want it. We might be able to stem the on coming wreckless ideology but as we make bigger government everything will be magnifyed and we will have to sucom to the enemy with our way of life, our heritage, our sons and daughters, our land, our privacy, our religeon, our freedom, our dreams and maybe even our very souls. Because there will come a day and we are seeing it now with china, that we will have to be responsible and pay for every unethical and immoral decision we have made (thanks to the crooks). And since we will have no assets (the $9 trillion is gone - where is it? what do we have to show for it?) to repay our debt because it has been sold time and time again, we will have nothing to give them but everything that shouldn't be for sell. Its like a story of a bad selfish son that forged the title to his mothers house and then sold it. The new owner came to the door and said, I thought this house was empty. Well, I bought this house and I've just traveled 500 miles to move in. I'm sorry you'll have to leave now, as an elderly woman she had no transportation, she could not drive even if she had. She had to leave all her belongings and walked out with nothing more than a small suitcase of belongings. No job and no money, all the sudden just thrown out of her own home and the crooked son made it look all legal, she could do nothing. Thats what we have going on in America right now. We have the politicians selling everything this country owns and stands for. Just like when Clinton sold the Lincoln bedroom in the whitehouse. When he gave (sold) the Chinese American technology that made him a traitor, spy crook all at the same time. He gave the Chinese a leg up and the American people a knock down. China was not nearly the threat that is today, so thank you Bill Clinton. Your a traitor and you should never be allowed back in the white house or any where that security clearance is needed, you cannot be trusted again! We now know your legacy, a traitor and spy of the American People. The thing is, since everyone is on the take in govco, they cannot pursue anyone legally because they probably have simular skeletons in their closets and then they'd be in trouble, so its all hush, hush! And G.W Bush is no different, he might even be worse. So, the stage is set for another crook. We will definitely get another crook. The system is all about crooks and money, all the billionairs are in on it and they're doing things in the dark of night right now. They might be setting up a military attack somewhere to get us all scared again, they could be planting WMD or a nuke somewhere to get us all scared again. And while we are scared and with our eyes closed, they can rob us blind by stuffing the bodies full of our gold on the way out. If everything you and everyone does can be watched, read, heard and financially tracked then you can be made to believe anything. Its all about trust and as my livelyhood gets smaller and smaller, so does the trust I have in govco.

Then, you couple all these reasons along with the fact that the politicians don't have the courage, conviction, where with all, honesty, morality, responsibility or the discipline to change things for the future generations of Americans by preserving America and our way of life.
As long as we have politicians that want praise and worship from a 24 hour poll, things won't change because you don't look any farther than now or next week. Its what the numbers say now. You don't build a legacy in 4 or 8 years. History judges politicians on the ones before and the ones that came after them, anything you did that stands out in the minds of the masses is what your legacy is. Therefore you can't build a legacy if you don't know what comes after you, only history can do that. If you made the country a trillion dollars overnight and the next guy came in and made 50 trillion, later down the road history will reflect better on the latter, even though you thought you did the most amazing things.

we might be able to spend our way out of trillions in debt in the long run, but it highly unlikely. And if we do it will be for the wrong reasons and America will be America no more, so what good is it? The way to handle these problems that we have is with a moral discipline and reguard for America and her people. we can spend our way into the next decade with golden palaces and high debt, but if it ain't for America and Americans, it ain't nothing!

The powers that be are looking for any kind of military conflict so we can all be scared again! It ain't working boys!