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    Pegida: The New German Revolution

    Topic - Uncontrolled Muslim immigration and asylum seekers in Germany. Lesson to be learned....

    Pegida: The New German Revolution

    by Peter Martino
    January 15, 2015 at 5:00 am

    Pegida's worries about the Islamization of Germany concern the seeming intolerance and religious fanaticism that have grown hand-in-hand with the arrival of the Muslim populations unwilling to adapt to Western values.

    The terror attacks in France Had "nothing to do with Islam." — German Interior Minister Thomas de Maizière.

    By decrying Pegida's views as "xenophobic," narrow minded" and even "inhuman," Germany's ruling establishment shows how deeply out of touch it is with the worries of a large segment of the population.

    Perhaps the people in the East just want to avoid the situation that the Western part of the country is in. Having gone through decades of Communist dictatorship, perhaps they are less inclined to trust that their political leaders have the people's best interests in mind with their policies.

    Every Monday evening since last October, thousands of citizens have marched through the city of Dresden as well as other German cities to protest the Islamization of their country. They belong to an organization, established only three months ago, called Pegida, the German abbreviation for "Patriotic Europeans Against the Islamization of the West."

    PEGIDA on a Monday "evening walk" in Dresden, November 10, 2014. (Image source: Filmproduktionen video screenshot)

    Pegida is a democratic grassroots organization, without origins in the far-left, far-right or links to any political parties, domestic or foreign. The French Front National [FN] of Marine Le Pen even made it clear that it wants nothing to do with "spontaneous initiatives" such as Pegida. According to the FN, "something like Pegida cannot be a substitute for a party."

    In the Netherlands, Geert Wilders of the Freedom Party [PVV] is more positive. He sees Pegida as a sign of the growing discontent of ordinary people with the political elite now governing them. "A revolution is on its way," he says. Ironically, Wilders's PVV, currently by far the largest party in the Dutch polls, is itself more of a spontaneous movement, driven by the energy and charisma of one single man with a mission to liberate his country from Islamic extremism, rather than an established and structured political party.

    That Pegida is a spontaneous and diffuse organization of citizens expressing their discontent, seems to be worrying the German political establishment. German Chancellor Angela Merkel knows how powerful these movements can become. In 1989, when thousands of people shouting, "Wir sind das Volk" ["We are the people"] took to the streets in cities such as Dresden, the Communist regime in East Germany was toppled.

    Apart from slogans such as: "Against Religious Fanaticism," and: "For the Future of our Children," the anti-Islamization protesters of Pegida are using exactly the same slogan -- "Wir sind das Volk" --- of the anti-Communist demonstrators a quarter of a century ago, as they march against the open-door policies of the German government.

    The use of the 1989 liberation slogan has infuriated Merkel, who reproaches Pegida for using it. In her New Year's speech, Merkel attacked the Pegida demonstrators. "Their hearts are cold, full of prejudice and hatred," she said, while defending her government's policies of welcoming asylum seekers and immigrants. She pointed out that Germany had taken in more than 200,000 asylum seekers in 2014, making it the country that is accepting the largest number of refugees in the world.

    Merkel has been backed by church leaders, who are slamming Pegida and calling for solidarity with migrants. The Confederation of German Employers has been blaming Pegida for damaging Germany's international reputation. Meanwhile, so-called anti-fascist demonstrators, shouting "Wir sind die Mauer. Das Volk muss weg!" ["We are the Wall. Down with the people!"], last week blocked a Pegida march in Berlin.

    On January 10, fearing that the recent Islamic terror attacks in France might lead to even more public support for Pegida, Dresden Mayor Helma Orosz, a member of Chancellor Merkel's Christian-Democratic CDU Party, co-sponsored in her town a so-called "Lovestorm" event. The aim was to conquer the "xenophobia" of Pegida through "open mindedness and humanity." Interior Minister Thomas de Maizière, another leading CDU politician, claimed that the terror attacks in France had "nothing to do with Islam" and warned against "political pyromaniacs" such as Pegida who suggest otherwise.

    Pegida's worries about the Islamization of Germany concern the seeming intolerance and religious fanaticism that have grown hand in hand with the arrival of Muslim populations unwilling to adapt to Western values.

    But by decrying Pegida's views as "xenophobic," "narrow minded" and even "inhuman," Germany's ruling establishment shows how deeply out of touch it is with the worries of a large segment of the population.

    A recent poll, dating from before the terror attacks in France, found that one in three Germanssupport the Pegida anti-Islamization marches. Further, a new study by the Bertelsmann Foundation found that German attitudes toward Islam are hardening, with 61% saying in 2014 that Islam is "not suited to the Western world" -- up from 52% in 2012. Also, up to 57% of the Germans see Islam as a threat, 40% feel that they are becoming foreigners in their own country because of the Muslim presence, and 24% want to ban Muslim immigration.

    Looking at the numbers of demonstrators that join the Pegida demonstrations every Monday in various German cities, Pegida is clearly an overwhelmingly East German phenomenon. Indeed, in the provinces formerly belonging to the Communist German Democratic Republic [GDR], many thousands of people are drawn to the demonstrations, while in the West the numbers are far lower. Political analysts admit to being puzzled by this, given that the number of immigrants, including Muslims, is far lower in the East than in the West. Some blame the higher unemployment figures in the East; the "backwardness," the lack of "civil society," the lack of "liberal open mindedness," and that "people in the East feel that they are losers."

    There might, however, be two other explanations that make more sense. Perhaps the people in the East just want to avoid the situation that the Western part of the country is in, as a result of the large Islamic presence. While the West might already be lost as a result of Islamization, the East is still capable of avoiding the West's fate. Moreover, having gone through decades of Communist dictatorship, perhaps the Easterners are less inclined to trust that their political leaders have the people's best interests in mind with their policies.

    Perhaps they feel that, rather than trust that Frau Merkel knows what is best for the German people -- as she welcomes in record numbers these new Islamic immigrants -- the German people need to show her clearly that they think she is wrong.

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    This sounds too familiar. take a lesson from Europe. This is the globalist plan.

    Sweden: From "Humanitarian Superpower" to Failed State

    by Ingrid Carlqvist and Lars Hedegaard
    January 16, 2015 at 5:00 am
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    Sweden's "December Agreement" may be fairly described as a soft coup d'état; it has paved the way for Sweden's demise. Six of the eight political parties in parliament have simply decided to exclude from the parliamentary process the only party to oppose mass immigration and defend Swedish culture. The new system may also be described as a consensual dictatorship.
    The price tag for immigration is possibly 110 billion Swedish kroner (close to $14 billion) per year. That is a lot of money in a country with 10 million inhabitants. The politicians, however, keep insisting that immigration from third-word countries is an economic boon. Nor is it discussed in the media. Anyone even daring to mention that there may be a problem is labeled a "racist," a "fascist," or a "xenophobe."

    One may safely predict that Sweden's goose will be cooked well before the December Agreement runs out in 2022. Its days as a free and democratic welfare state will be over. A population of perhaps eight million Swedes cannot accommodate and pay for perhaps four million such immigrants in eight years. It is as if the U.S. were to accept 150 million.
    As Europe braces itself for new terror attacks, its political establishments face a choice: Will they finally start listening to their citizens' growing concerns over Muslim mass immigration and the spread of political Islam, or will they dig in and try to perpetuate decades of failed multicultural policies?

    Sweden, perhaps leading the way, seems to have chosen the latter. As part of the country's so-called December Agreement, six of the eight political parties represented in parliament (Riksdagen) have simply decided to exclude the Sweden Democrats [SD] -- the only party to oppose mass immigration and defend Swedish culture -- from the parliamentary process.

    No new elections

    Technically, the six parties (in addition to the ex-communists, who were not included in the agreement but will no doubt adhere to it, as they are close allies of the Social Democratic government) have agreed that the budget presented by whoever is prime minister will not be voted down by the opposition. That was what happened in early December 2014, when Social Democratic Prime Minister Stefan Löfven's budget proposal failed because the Sweden Democrats voted with the center-right opposition. Consequently, Stefan Löfven's minority government found itself in the intolerable position of having to govern on the basis of the opposition's budget.
    PM Löfven decided to call for new elections, to be held on March 22, 2015. But unfortunately for both the government and the opposition, several opinion polls left no doubt that the Sweden Democrats were steaming ahead. Some polls put them at 18% (up from 12% in the last election), meaning that neither the ex-communist-green-socialist governing block nor the center-right opposition could command a majority in a new parliament.

    So the six parties got together in a common front against Sweden's only real opposition party, the Sweden Democrats. On December 27, they announced that there would be no new elections. Thus, the one million plus Swedes who had intended to vote for the SD, would have to wait for another four years, and even then their votes will not matter because the December Agreement runs until 2022. Until the unlikely event that the Sweden Democrats obtain 51% of the vote, their supporters might as well howl at the moon. No other party will negotiate with their representatives or listen to their arguments.

    Politics from the back room

    The December Agreement may be fairly described as a soft coup d'état that has paved the way for Sweden's demise.

    On the surface, Sweden's democratic institutions are intact, but from now on they are a hollow shell. The December Agreement introduces what may be labeled a dual parliamentary system. The official parliament, Riksdagen, remains in place, but in the shadows lurks the real parliament, made up of the seven party leaders -- all the way from the ex-communists (Vänsterpartiet) to the conservatives (Moderaterna). This back-room assembly conducts its deliberations in secret and protected from public scrutiny. From time to time, it will present its decisions to the Riksdag. As the seven parties make up 300 of the 349 members, the Riksdagwill, of course, give its assent.

    The new system may also be described as a consensual dictatorship. Regardless of what government Sweden will have over the next eight years, it will in reality have dictatorial powers. Its yearly budgets, which are the foundations of any other policies, are guaranteed to pass. In addition to the budget, the unified parties have announced that they will seek unanimity on defense, security, pensions and energy.

    "Orderly" and "responsible" government

    According to the six party leaders, the December Agreement was necessitated by Sweden's need for "orderly" and "responsible" government. Only the leader of the centrist People's Party (Folkpartiet), Jan Björklund, revealed the true intent: To keep "resentment parties" (read: the Sweden Democrats) away from influence.

    None of the journalists present at the press conference, where PM Löfven revealed the new political order, asked the obvious question: Is it not the obligation of the political opposition to oppose -- indeed be resentful of -- the government's policies? Otherwise, what is the opposition for? And why have democratic elections if all "responsible" parties are expected to agree?

    Unfortunately such questions were not asked, and by and large -- with a few dissenting voices -- the Swedish mainstream media have applauded the December Agreement.

    At the December 27 press conference, hardly a word was said about the overweight elephant that is stalking Sweden: Immigration from the Middle East and Africa, which is so massive and costly that it is bound to thwart any budget.

    14 billion dollars


    No official statistics on the costs of immigration are available. But according to professor of ethnology Karl-Olov Arnstberg and journalist Gunnar Sandelin (authors of the noted book,Invandring och mörkläggningImmigration and Concealment), the price tag is 110 billion Swedish kroner (close to $14 billion) per year.

    That is a lot of money in a country with 10 million inhabitants. Others have put the net figure much higher. The politicians, however, keep insisting that immigration from third-world countries is an indubitable economic boon and refuse to discuss the issue. Nor is it discussed in the mainstream media. Anyone even daring to mention that there may be a problem is routinely labeled a "racist," a "fascist" or a "xenophobe."

    Sweden's official statistical office, SCB, documents that a massive demographic shift is under way. Over the period 2000-2013, inhabitants with a foreign background grew by 713,000, whereas the number of inhabitants with a Swedish background increased by only 50,000.

    Sweden has the highest number of asylum seekers per million inhabitants in Europe. According to the latest prognosis for 2014, 95,000 will have sought asylum in Sweden. The vast majority will be granted permanent residence.

    Participants in Sweden's Asylstafetten (Asylum Relay) 2013 marched for 34 days from Malmö to Stockholm, to demand their government enact a "humane refugee policy," with more support and protection for refugees.

    Exit Sweden


    With vast parts of the Middle East and North Africa in turmoil, there is every indication that the number of asylum seekers will increase in the coming years. And as there is no sign that Sweden's seven united parties will dismantle their open door policy, one may safely predict that Sweden's goose will be cooked well before the December Agreement runs out in 2022. Sadly, its days as a free and democratic welfare state will be over. A population of perhaps eight million Swedes cannot accommodate and pay for perhaps four million such immigrants in eight years. It is as if the United States were to accept 150 million immigrants.

    If we estimate that 80,000 asylum seekers will be granted permanent residence every year for the next eight years, we reach a figure of 640,000. As it is generally estimated that every new permanent resident from third-world countries will be followed by 2-3 family members or dependents, we are probably talking about an influx of two and a quarter million by 2022.

    By that time, Sweden, which prides itself on being a "humanitarian superpower," will have become a failed state and there is nothing the discontented can do about it except leave the country. This was precisely what the UN predicted, but subsequently, it withdrew this prognosis.

    Many have wondered what motivates the political establishment. Why do they insist on filling the country with foreigners, most of whom will become dependent on the state because they do not have skills required for jobs in the modern economy?
    Check in next week.


    Ingrid Carlqvist and Lars Hedegaard are editors-in-chief of Dispatch International.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newmexican View Post
    Perhaps the people in the East just want to avoid the situation that the Western part of the country is in. Having gone through decades of Communist dictatorship, perhaps they are less inclined to trust that their political leaders have the people's best interests in mind with their policies.

    There's an economic element to this, as there so often is in large scale social conflicts. GDP in the eastern part of Germany looks to be c.60% of that of the western part. That probably translates into a tighter job market. So any newcomers would be a problem for easterners.

    At some point I expect that lower middle class and poor Americans will realize that they're being undercut by Open Borders crowd. At that point it should be more difficult for the mainstream media to continue to ignore the economic problems caused by illegals and newly legal illegals.
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