Thread: Please order the new book written by Cong. Tom Tancredo

Best promiser wins the election!

So then we play politics, to what end? Who then will actually ENFORCE THE LAW?

The same people enforcing it in New Orleans?

It is after all a Federal Law, out of State jurisdiction. Will the Benches(judges) enforce immigration law? Why would they, if they have not by now? They are appointed and need not be concerned about public opinion.

Will the angry mob? Those are illegal under martial law.

The Border Patrol is now not at our border. Clearly even in crisis, stopping illegals is secondary, if it isn't tertiary.

In crisis, our citizens live under martial law, what law do illegals live under? What is to stop them? Who wants them deported? How can we report people that don't have identities? How will people in Katrinas' aftermath that are legal identify themselves? As much action as I have seen from politicos in the past week I am skeptical of promises, promises of action. What proof is there past or present, then future, that our Federal Government is up to the task, even if it wanted to remove all illegals?

Then there are the multitudes of Americans who do not care about exploiting illegals, someone has to mow the lawn and clean house after all. Otherwise, why would they be here in the droves we see?

I 'aint holding my breath, that's for the poor unfortunates down in the Delta. Should be fun to watch though. cheers glenn

If Americans succeed in electing a NEW CONGRESS where there are new members and incumbents that are transformed by the 2006 experience, then that Congress has the authority to do what is required in the framework of the Constitution to have our existing laws enforced.

The CURRENT CONGRESS is starting to learn more, but this is not our Congress. Our goal with this Congress is to hold the line before they do more damage by November 2006.

This is our cause, this is what ALIPAC is dedicated to, this is why we are here.

W

Make sure you don't give up a gold ring for a dirty baby diaper.

*Years ago, a man rose to power and authority in Germany and said to the people 'I will get you out of this mess, especially endless reparations, kick-start the economy, and make this country strong and make you proud you are from here. All I ask is for you to turn over a certain ethnic portion of your population to me to do with as I want, no questions asked."

If the people had turned away in disgust and not let themselves be bribed this way, they would have spared themselves decades of death, destruction, and pain and misery.

*After watching this immigration problem grow and grow and either doing nothing or actual contributing to it so it is worth, some are stepping up to the plate to say "'I will get you out of this mess, kick-start the economy, and make this country strong and make you proud you are from here. All I ask is for you to turn over a certain ethnic portion of your population to me to do with as I want, no questions asked."

I strongly suggest you resoundingly say no and run them out of town on a rail. Regardless of how you feel about the GLBT community, they are taxpaying law-abiding citizens that contribute to our communities, SERVE IN OUR ARMED FORCES, and raise their families right among us. Don't take the bait offered you for anything that is promised you. You, like those people of that other country so long ago, don't want that karma, you don't want to explain to your children and grandchildren how you sold out your citizens for a quick fix.

If you do, you will be sorry. Stand firm for what is right, and someone will come along willing to do the job and not make you sacrifice so much for two, three or more generations.

What is going on with the illegal immigration issue has NOTHING to do with Nazi Germany and I get so sick of hearing that overused, abused, rhetoric.

"All I ask is for you to turn over a certain ethnic portion of your population to me to do with as I want,"

What the hell is that? Are you suggesting that when America puts illegal aliens on buses and planes back to their home countries that we are equivocal to people that murdered 6 million Jews stuffing them into incinerators and such?

You are aware that my grandparents and a whole generation of Americans that defeated the Nazis came home and marched two million illegal aliens back where they came from in the 1950's right?

Are you suggestion that our WW2 Veterans are like the Nazis? Did they say "All I ask is for you to turn over a certain ethnic portion of your population to me to do with as I want" ???

This is a classic example of how Hitler and Nazi Germany are being used as a false analogy for political purposes. It is a damn shame too that Americans have to face these false allusions and aspersions.

Same crap, different day. I guess we should stop enforcing any laws that are being violated more by a specific ethnic group. Just let it slide into anarchy lest we risk being labeled racists or Nazis.

"you don't want to explain to your children and grandchildren how you sold out your citizens for a quick fix"

That is what those importing illegal aliens are doing. Selling out American children for a quick economic fix. I'd rather not explain to my children that Im sorry they or their brother or sister were stolen by gangs and sold into sexual slavery because nobody in American had enough balls to stand up for what is right anymore due to name calling, liar race baiter and Naziphobes.

W

Originally Posted by naturalglenn

Best promiser wins the election!

So then we play politics, to what end? Who then will actually ENFORCE THE LAW?

The same people enforcing it in New Orleans?

It is after all a Federal Law, out of State jurisdiction. Will the Benches(judges) enforce immigration law? Why would they, if they have not by now? They are appointed and need not be concerned about public opinion.

Will the angry mob? Those are illegal under martial law.

The Border Patrol is now not at our border. Clearly even in crisis, stopping illegals is secondary, if it isn't tertiary.

In crisis, our citizens live under martial law, what law do illegals live under? What is to stop them? Who wants them deported? How can we report people that don't have identities? How will people in Katrinas' aftermath that are legal identify themselves? As much action as I have seen from politicos in the past week I am skeptical of promises, promises of action. What proof is there past or present, then future, that our Federal Government is up to the task, even if it wanted to remove all illegals?

Then there are the multitudes of Americans who do not care about exploiting illegals, someone has to mow the lawn and clean house after all. Otherwise, why would they be here in the droves we see?

I 'aint holding my breath, that's for the poor unfortunates down in the Delta. Should be fun to watch though. cheers glenn

YOu know amigo, I find it funny how the OAS, led by an educated non-primative, humane native of Chile(a country that does not exploit it's people but encourages education instead-yeah latin american finally saw Mexican politics for who they really were-considering past mexican leadership of the Organization of American States), was one of the first to step up and offer aide in the katrina aftermath, but the illegal mexicans living in the U.S. as well as their corrupt greedy government who is the one of the biggest jokes in the Americas-especially in the more civilized countries who don't make race an issue like Chile, offered nothing. You would have at least thought the illegal aliens getting a free ride in the U.S. would have at least wanted to volunteer some of their time to help people who are citizens of the country. No, not at all.

You know glenn, you make it sound like the illegal aliens and their corrupt government are going to be taking over and/or get away with everything and anything but keep in mind, the turmoil they have caused over here-they would never attempt south of their border. I wonder why. Also, South America and Spain may play stupid, nod their heads in agreement while smiling and agree with whatever Mexican reps say while in their nations but they know what is going on. Most of those nations are realizing that Mexico has been a big cause of tensions amongst South America and NOrth America. They are aware of a lot of what is going on in the Americas.

Also, many South American residents in the U.S. as well as college students in the U.S. from South America/Spain have said that the only racism they have received has been from illegal mexican immigrants/chicano and pro illegal alien activists as well as illegal aliens students from Mexico who have protested South American students(who were legally admitted to study in the U.S. under student visas and much more qualified than illegal alien students from mexico...and guess what else- DID NOT MIND PAYING IN-STATE TUITION) saying that because they have lived here longer(even though the south americans on student visas were here legally), that they should be accepted into colleges ahead of them.

So, if the illegals as well as their -well as the chileans call them"communist pro illegal alien activists", think they are in control and will get away with everything, they might want to do a little research on their history as well as the history of the fox administration- as well as the nations they have ticked off....Then again, the activists are on the same side as the corporate supremacists-especially the pro illegal alien chicanos-they are all about keeping their own people in poverty and ignorant in an effort to eternally be in control of them...

The easiest way to control the poor and uneducated is by keeping them poor and undeducated and by hiding the fact that their own government exploits them.

Interesting points Sonali.

Be strong of heart all. We will prevail. We must. Failure is not an option.

W

Ali-pac i don't why you are ranting at me, I know FOR A FACT at least TWO people are stepping up to the anti-illegal immigration plate with ulterior motives. I KNOW this, they make it very clear and they almost BRAG about it. My recommendations stands: No matter how strong they are on anti-illegal immigration, you would do well to avoid getting THEM into office and waiting patiently for someone to come along who will enforce our laws, protect our country, and save our lives without asking such a terrible price.

Because 'you don't see it' doesn't make it not so and you can be 'sick of it' as you want. It's DANGEROUS. I am of German descent and I married into a Jewish family that fled Europe in the early 1900's. So I know whereof I speak and I have that real-life experience on which to draw, so I'm not drawing my analogy out of thin air. I know whereof I speak.

I have met many many people who voted for Bush on a single or maybe two-issue ticket. Now they are sorry. I'm sorry they're sorry. For what it was he was willing to give us, he has asked a terrible price from all of us including many people's lives.

Anyway I should add that I don't think Tom Tancredo and Jim Gilchrist are someone to worry about. There are a LOT of good people just like them that are willing to work hard to make things right without asking terrible things back from us. That's really all my point is and your entire post made no sense to me. I've been around a while and I've done a lot and I don't know why you were so disrespectful...but well...it's your house and all that, you can do what you want.

Farewell and have peace, wherever you go.

Edited to add: I just saw a '1 private message' but I don't want to go check it. Again, sorry if I upset you. It was nice working with you and thanks fo rhaving me as a guest on the board. It's a good board and I enjoyed my time here. Peace and farewell.

Lambsmarch,

I agree that we need to watch Bush. He is trying to provide us a fake answer to a problem he helped create. He is pushing guest worker as an answer to his administrations Catch and Release program accompanied by his order for ICE not to fine employers.

You just used a lot of Nazi warning language in regards to the movement and Im very wary and tired of that rhetoric. What happened in the 1930's and 40's is constantly cited by our advasaries as a reason to take no strong action on illegal immigration.

I'm sorry if I offended you or misunderstood your point.

William

Originally Posted by naturalglenn

Believe what you want, this is America.

He is a Colorado Republican, opposed to globalization and illegal immigration.

Strike one.

We'll see if he retains his seat in his own state. Many in CO. love the illegals, especially the rich that finance elections and business people. The illegals are building their multi-million dollar mansions in Vail and Aspen.

Strike two

Many don't believe in Islamic terrorism once we get the hell out of the area and stop trying to rule their Countries by deception and force. Any statements like Tom made, about nuking, will totally turn off this large segment of the voting public, Eastern liberals won't touch the guy, no matter what. Plus, who is to say that such nonsense would not lead to those who have nukes using the opportunity to obliterate us. Think it, don't say it, best of all, don't do it.

Strike three.

In my view, supporting him as President is a waste. Even he knows it.

cheers glenn

I do appreciate your like for Cong. Tancredo.

Tom Tancredo will easily retain his seat. He represents a solidly Republican district in Colorado. Most people in Colorado do not appreciate the presence of illegal aliens. Most people in Colorado want the borders secured and enforced. Most people in Colorado want illegal aliens deported. The people of Cong. Tancredo's district overwhelminly support his positions regarding both border security and illegal aliens.

Cong. Tancredo never said anything about "nuking" Islamic holy sites. I can't tell what "large segment of the voting public" you are saying are going to be turned off by Cong. Tancredo's statements regarding this nation's response to Islamic terrorists exploding nuclear weapons in six (6), seven (7) or eight (8 ) U.S. cities. I believe a majority of the American people support Cong. Tancredo's remarks. Here is a link to the results of a VOTE.com poll in which eighty-one perecent (81%) of those voting supported Cong. Tancredo's remarks: http://www.vote.com/vResults/index.phtm ... at=4075633 .

Tom Tancredo will be running in the Republican primary, not the Demcoratic primary. Conservative Republicans voting in Repbulican caucuses and primaries will not pay any attention to what eastern liberals think of Cong. Tancredo. In fact, criticism from eastern liberals may gain Cong. Tancredo votes in Repbulican caucuses and primaries.

Who do you support for president in 2008?

Though I can understand Glenn's cyncism, I have to respectfully disagree with him when he says "supporting Tancredo is a waste." Remember, theres a LONG way to go until the 2008 elections. Probably 95% of Americans didn't know anything about John Kerry until a couple months before the Democratic primary. George McGovern was a total unknown on the national scene until well into the 1972 election. And even though McGovern lost by a landslide as a single-issue "anti-war" candidate, a couple years later Nixon was run out on a rail and the Vietnam war was ended. So "one-issue" candidates can have a lot of clout, even if they're not elected or electable. Tancredo will, at the least, serve as a lightning rod, to count the numbers and see just how strong the support is for anti-immigration sentiments. I'm behind him all the way, just like I was behind Pat Buchanan in all his elections.