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    The political lynching of Sebastian Gorka

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    The political lynching of Sebastian Gorka

    by Michael Rubin | Aug 27, 2017, 8:38 AM

    Friday marked Sebastian Gorka's last day at the White House. Democrats, progressives, and even many Republicans cheered. The Federalist published his resignation letter, although anonymous White House officials told the New York Times and Washington Post that he had been fired. The truth might lie in the middle: Chief of Staff John Kelly's reported decision to withdraw Gorka's clearance led Gorka to resign. Alas, few if any reporters were self-aware enough to recognize the cognitive dissonance: How could they have reported for months that Gorka lacked a clearance when, indeed, he had one all along?

    Regardless, there was no shortage of criticism about Gorka. These centered on three broad themes:

    1. Gorka was a right-wing extremist with ties to Neo-Nazi groups.
    2. Gorka was not a real terrorism expert.
    3. Gorka appeared on television too much.


    Consider them in order:

    First, the accusation that Gorka was a sympathizer with violent, fascist, Nazi-sympathizing groups in Hungary began when a left-wing blogger suggested that he wore a Vitezi Rend medal to the inaugural ball and that its display suggested ideological sympathy with neo-Nazis. Gorka responded to the accusation here. That the same blogger had earlier left the Center for American Progress under a cloud after Obama White House officials expressed concern at his and his colleagues' use of anti-Semitic dog whistles in targeting Jewish policymakers, again, was an irony lost on those who seized upon the story uncritically.

    The story grew when The Forward, a Jewish website and publication with socialist roots, purported to uncover a video affirming Gorka's support for a Hungarian party subsequently accused of anti-Semitism. It subsequently emerged, however, that The Forward spliced the video to omit key portions in which Gorka warned against anti-Semitism or its flirting with anti-Semitic groups.

    Here's the key point: While many progressives and opponents of the regime accept with certainty that Gorka is a Nazi, a white nationalist, or an extremist, they have not been able to find a single statement or essay by Gorka or account of his speeches or comments supporting such positions. Given the volume of his previous writing, that should have been a red flag. The Nazi accusation is about as logical as concluding that a picture of Gorka absent his glasses represents a secret endorsement of the Khmer Rouge.

    The situation gets worse: Three Democratic senators — Richard Blumenthal, Dick Durban, and Ben Cardin — have seized upon the calumny to suggest the Justice Department consider whether Gorka should have his citizenship revoked.

    This sets a dangerous precedent. Politics in Washington are poisonous, with extremists on both sides of debates losing civility and seeking to criminalize policy debate. Donald Trump was guilty of that as a candidate, and Mike Flynn's "lock her up" chants at the Republican National Convention were cringe-worthy, but threats to strip citizenship are a new low. Given the poison of dual loyalty accusations made by anti-Semites against Jews serving in public capacities, it is especially disturbing to hear Jewish-American senators seeming to use similar cards of insufficient loyalty to the United States against political opponents.,

    Second, what about the idea that Gorka was a non-expert? Long before Trump's surprise rise to the presidency, I had the privilege of hearing Gorka lecture at the Marshall Center in Garmisch, Germany; to the FBI; at the U.S. Marine Corps University; and to U.S. Special Forces at Fort Bragg. To suggest that he was unknown is simply dishonest. Indeed, his lectures tended to receive rave reviews.

    Here's what many proponents of the ‘amateur' argument miss: The same charges many critics level at Gorka could just as easily apply to any other counter-terror specialist. Daniel Benjamin, who served as counterterrorism coordinator at the State Department during the Obama administration and worked on counter-terrorism during the Clinton administration at the National Security Council, got his start as a Time Magazine reporter. Francis Townsend, whom Condoleezza Rice picked as her terrorism advisor, got her start as a prosecutor focusing on organized crime.

    Many of the academics who criticized Gorka as out of his depth at certain academic conferences would have or have had their theories ridiculed by practitioners such as the FBI and U.S Special Forces as out of touch with reality. There is also a touch of jealousy: Gorka has a New York Times best-selling book; they did not.

    Even during the Obama administration, counter-terror practitioners reached out to Gorka. True, Gorka does not speak Arabic. Then again, some of the key go-to academics for those on the Left do not speak Arabic, either. Many CIA and State Department specialists have not mastered the language either. Gorka does have some experience in the Arab world, however, and especially in Egypt, its largest country. True, Gorka's Ph.D. came from a Hungarian university that may have lacked the rigor of the University of Chicago, Princeton, or Harvard but, here's an open secret about Washington, D.C.: Many policymakers pursue British Ph.Ds simply because the programs are short and less rigorous than American programs.

    But, was Gorka inexpert? The "terrorism studies" field is young and amorphous. For any academic to try to constrain the bounds of debate will only relegate the field to irrelevancy. But, regardless, the sum of Gorka's experience compares well to those who preceded him, many of whom gained the expertise for which they are known today on the job.

    Third, what about the notion that Gorka appeared too often on television and was too bellicose in his defense of the Trump administration? Gorka did appear in the media frequently, but he apparently did so with the permission and support of the president. Trump, for better or worse, has embraced a communications strategy radically different than those before him. The merits of Trump's twitter feed or the bellicosity of his surrogates toward the media has been well-covered.

    The difference between Gorka and some other Trump administration officials appearing on television was that, like the policies or hate them, Gorka was effective. That some frequent talking heads criticized Gorka for the frequency of his appearances displayed a lack of self-awareness on their part. Still, it is true that Gorka's presence on television combined with his effectiveness transformed him into a lightning rod for so many opponents of Trump's policies.

    It is possible to debate with Gorka with regard to political Islam and the ideological components of terrorism. It is also possible to disagree on the balance the Trump administration (like administrations before it) seeks between security and human rights.

    These are the stuff of active policy debate. As for me, I am a "Never Trumper" and unrepentantly so. I continue to question Trump's character and, unlike many others who signed letters condemning Trump during the campaign, I never sought any position in his administration. Such political disagreement with the president, however, should never be a reason to amplify falsehood for the sake of gratuitous personal destruction. When senators seek to strip a loyal American of his citizenship or when celebrities such as Alyssa Milano use their platform to call Gorka an "unrepentant racist and nationalist," they appear to affirm in themselves many of the same personality traits they find most egregious in Trump.

    Gorka, agree or disagree with him, was treated unfairly. He has become an example of how fringe bloggers and political hacks can advance falsehoods knowing that partisan blinders will prevent any critical assessment of their charges, no matter how bizarre.

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    Obviously Kelly has a lot to do with this. Trump appoints him to run his White House staff and then Obannon and Gorka are fired. Who is next, Stephen Miller? Doesn't it seem a little ironic that DACA is coming to a head and all of the sudden two of the programs opponents on the staff are kicked to the curb? Least we forget, it has already been reported that Kelly is keeping Miller from advising Trump on DACA.

    All three, Obannon, Gorka, and Miller are strong opponents of illegal immigrant amnesty! All I can say is, Stephen Miller better watch his back because Kushner, Ivanka, and Kelly may go after him next.
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    The man has been 'accused' of anti-semitism - he's gone.

    An accusation of that is all that is necessary to destroy a person.

    When people scream 'anti-semitism', hurl accusations, and demand a person loose their job, etc., it always seems so ironic to me.

    It's ironic they don't mind using the same tactics they deplore.

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    Neither Bannon nor Gorka are gone because of DACA or immigration issues. Bannon is gone because of the statements he made to the press about there not being a military option in North Korea and "they got us". Gorka resigned because the speech on Afghanistan failed to use the term, "radical Islamic terrorism." I personally think they both want more freedom than you can have as a member of the White House staff. I don't know if the reports about Bannon being a leaker are true, but some of those leaks were coming from someone pretty involved in all the important meetings so it could have been Bannon. I mean he was still on White House staff when he was running his mouth "off the record" with a reporter about North Korea. You can't do that and keep a job in any White House.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Neither Bannon nor Gorka are gone because of DACA or immigration issues. Bannon is gone because of the statements he made to the press about there not being a military option in North Korea and "they got us". Gorka resigned because the speech on Afghanistan failed to use the term, "radical Islamic terrorism." I personally think they both want more freedom than you can have as a member of the White House staff. I don't know if the reports about Bannon being a leaker are true, but some of those leaks were coming from someone pretty involved in all the important meetings so it could have been Bannon. I mean he was still on White House staff when he was running his mouth "off the record" with a reporter about North Korea. You can't do that and keep a job in any White House.
    Okay, first off, Gorka didn't resign. They almost always say that when someone is fired to save face for the one getting the boot. Surprised you fell for it.

    As for the rest, it's all speculation and opinion. It just so happens that I can speculate and offer opinion too. I disagree that their firing had nothing to with their anti-illegal immigrant positions and opposition to DACA. Yes, in my opinion they both were pushed out by the likes of John Kelly, Jared Kushner, and Ivanka Trump because of their positions on immigration among other things. I'm not saying there wasn't a combination of factors that led to their firing, but I figure immigration was part of it.

    Opinion and speculation is nothing more than guesswork. Well, I too can participate in the guessing game. I suggest my opinion is just as valid as yours because neither one of us have any cold hard facts to back up our position.

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    I based my statement on Gorka on Gorka's resignation letter. I based my statement on Bannon on what I would have done if he worked for me, which is I would have fired him for his statement to the press on North Korea.

    Obviously you think and operate very differently than I do. That's been clear for many years. Nothing new here!

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    Then there is the possibility they were a little frustrated with the way things are working out.

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    There's no joy, glory or money for White House staffers. While an experience of a lifetime, it is not a power position. You are there to serve the President and do what he asks you to do and needs done. It's not a gateway or platform for your own political views, you are there to serve and help him execute HIS views and agenda. You are there to do what he tells you to do. Not the other way around, because President Trump is the only person in the building elected to be there.
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