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    "Face the Nation" host John Dickerson noted Trump's suggestion that the next speaker should be "strong," asking the Republican candidate whether Ryan fits that description.

    "I think he's strong," Trump said, but he added that he disagrees with Ryan's proposed entitlement reforms.

    "I think that when Mitt Romney chose him last time, it was a tough choice because he's been so anti-Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, in a sense. You know, he would say he hasn't been, but they certainly played that up hard. And that was a disastrous campaign for a lot of reasons," Trump explained.

    "But Paul Ryan's a good man. I know him very little, but I think he's a very good person."

    And when Dickerson asked whether he'd be okay with Ryan as speaker, Trump replied, "I would be okay."


    Oh Trump is the Master.

    "I think he'd be okay."

    Even though Trump points out he doesn't agree with Ryan's "entitlement reform" to cut "Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security" which made Ryan a "tough choice" for Romney, and blames on them losing the election.

    You're the real deal, Donald J Trump. Lather them with modest praise while you drive the stake.

    RYAN = GOP LOSES ELECTION

    RYAN = POOR AND SENIORS LOSE THEIR BENEFITS

    Brilliant.
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    Still, Trump cautioned, "It may not be him. I mean, they have a couple of people in there, I'm not going to mention names. But people I know that are really tough and really smart. And right now, that's what we need because the Republicans never win. John, they never win. Everything, whether it's on Obamacare, whether it's on the debt ceiling, no matter what we have, there's never, ever a victory. So we need a toughness and we just don't have there right now."
    I wonder if Issa is one of the really tough and really smart ones Trump is thinking about? He would be right on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    By JAKE MILLER CBS NEWS October 9, 2015, 5:57 PM

    Donald Trump: I'd "be okay" with Paul Ryan as House speaker


    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-t...election-2016/

    OUCH!
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    Judy wrote:

    Excerpt concerning Darryl Issa:

    Well, his goal wasn't amnesty, it was to get them registered so he could deport them.
    Not true. You don't openly say you support an actual pathway to citizenship with a hidden agenda to deport them. That's just not how politicians operate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    Judy wrote:

    Excerpt concerning Darryl Issa:



    Not true. You don't openly say you support an actual pathway to citizenship with a hidden agenda to deport them. That's just not how politicians operate.
    It wasn't hidden. It was in his bill and in his statements about the bill. He never said he supported a pathway to citizenship and the bill didn't provide for one. It simply required them to register in return for a 6 year guest worker permit. There was no pathway after that in the bill.

    Maybe you need to read up on the facts before you comment.

    Just a thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    It wasn't hidden. It was in his bill and in his statements about the bill. He never said he supported a pathway to citizenship and the bill didn't provide for one. It simply required them to register in return for a 6 year guest worker permit. There was no pathway after that in the bill.

    Maybe you need to read up on the facts before you comment.

    Just a thought.
    Perhaps you should broaden your research before you comment.

    Just a thought.


    Excerpt:

    The House Oversight Committee chairman told reporters Wednesday he can support a pathway to citizenship for some of the 11 million illegal immigrants in the U.S. and that he actually prefers it to a plan that would create a second-class of citizens through alternative programs.
    "I support the framework that the bipartisan group of senators are working on," Issa said. "We have to remember the 11 million people who are here are people."
    http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/...gal-immigrants

    Those words came directly out of Issa's mouth!

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    Issa Backs Citizenship Pathway

    By Caitlin Huey-Burns - February 6, 2013




    House lawmakers struggling to gain support for a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants might have found an unlikely ally: Republican Rep. Darrell Issa.


    The California conservative told RCP that providing a citizenship option in new legislation is what President Lincoln would have wanted.


    “I think all of us Republicans know that we don’t want a class of residents that will never be offered an opportunity for citizenship,” he said. “We’re the party of Lincoln, and the party of Lincoln would not accept people living in our country and not being citizens, or not being given the opportunity to become citizens.”

    As the powerful chairman of the House Oversight Committee, Issa is perhaps best known for being a critical and aggressive challenger of the Obama administration. He recently led a lengthy investigation into the Justice Department’s failed gun trafficking program known as “Fast and Furious,” and led the charge to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress. (The House passed a contempt citation over Holder’s failure to provide documents to congressional investigators, but the action did not lead to criminal charges because the president asserted executive privilege in the case.)


    Issa also sits on the Judiciary Committee, which has jurisdiction over immigration reform proposals. At the committee’s first hearing on reform Tuesday, Issa’s GOP colleagues sought a middle-ground solution between deporting most of the 11 million undocumented immigrants in the U.S. and providing them a way to earn citizenship. Many conservatives fear the latter would be tantamount to amnesty for those who have broken the law. Tuesday’s hearing highlighted the difficult divide between Republicans in the House and in the Senate, where lawmakers like Marco Rubio and John McCain have signed on to a citizenship pathway.


    Providing the opportunity to achieve legal status rather than citizenship appears to be the most viable option in the lower chamber at this point. But Issa isn’t ready to settle for that.


    “As we talk about who should remain and who should go, I think ultimately we have to be reasonable and realize we don’t want to have second-class citizens in our country,” he told RCP. “If someone’s a guest worker or a temporary resident, that’s fine. But if somebody’s going to spend the rest of their life in this country, I believe that we need to have a clear pathway to citizenship, and we shouldn’t hide that.”


    But Texas Republican Rep. Blake Farenthold, also a Judiciary Committee member, characterized a citizenship pathway as a major “stumbling block” in the House. Even Republicans who support a pathway recognize the difficulty it faces in the lower chamber. Florida Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, a prominent Cuban-born advocate for comprehensive immigration reform, told RCP that though she sees citizenship as the preferred goal,

    “I don’t think the perfect should be the enemy of the good. If we are only able to get legalization, I think that’s wonderful also because it allows people to stay here, work, pay taxes, pay their fines, and do everything they need to do. I’m in favor of citizenship path, but not against a legal pathway.”


    Asked if legalization instead of citizenship would create a kind of underclass to which he had earlier referred, Issa said, “Ultimately, if you’re allowed to remain in this country permanently, in almost all cases, there should be a path to citizenship. That is what Abraham Lincoln would have said.

    That’s what the Republican Party stands for.”


    Ros-Lehtinen told RCP that she and Democratic Rep. Luis Gutierrez will introduce a bill within a few weeks that resembles the failed 2010 DREAM Act, which would grant a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants’ children who attend American colleges or serve in the military. “We favor comprehensive reform, but wanted to make sure we work on the Dreamers as a stand-alone piece in case we’re not able to get the whole enchilada,” she said.


    House Majority Leader Eric Cantor made news this week by supporting some elements of the DREAM Act. House Speaker John Boehner declined to do likewise, saying he wants to "foster" bipartisan reform efforts but also telling reporters on Wednesday that it is "certainly worthy of consideration."


    Issa voted against the DREAM Act in 2010. But he did support (failed) legislation expanding visas for immigrants who earn American college degrees in science, math, engineering or technology. This week, he announced he would reprise that legislation (known as the STEM Jobs Act), as well as the Fallen Heroes Family Act, which grants temporary legal status to the families of deceased active-duty service members, and the Criminal Alien Accountability Act, which would mandate sentencing for illegal immigrants who come back into the country after being deported for criminal activity.


    Caitlin Huey-Burns is a congressional reporter for RealClearPolitics. She can be reached at chueyburns@realclearpolitics.com. Follow her on Twitter @CHueyBurnsRCP.

    Read more: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...#ixzz3o7riyJHg

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    By JAKE MILLER CBS NEWS October 9, 2015, 5:57 PM

    Donald Trump: I'd "be okay" with Paul Ryan as House speaker

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-t...election-2016/

    ‘VOTE FOR PAUL RYAN IS VOTE FOR AMNESTY': LUIS GUTIERREZ ENDORSES PAUL RYAN FOR SPEAK
    NO AMNESTY

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    Perhaps you should broaden your research before you comment.

    Just a thought.


    Excerpt:


    http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/...gal-immigrants

    Those words came directly out of Issa's mouth!
    But his bill didn't provide for it. And he says "some", and he's responding to questions about someone else's bill. And that was in 2013. Read his statements and bills before 2013. Read his statements and actions after 2013.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    But his bill didn't provide for it. And he says "some", and he's responding to questions about someone else's bill. And that was in 2013. Read his statements and bills before 2013. Read his statements and actions after 2013.
    What bill??? Are you talking about the one we kept hearing about that never reached the House floor? Look, this isn't about some obscure bill that was never even considered. Darrell Issa is on record as an amnesty supporter, period. Furthermore, he is on record as supporting the more than doubling of H1-B high skilled visas.

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