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    Ron Paul Backers 'Hijack' Delegates

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    Ron Paul backers 'hijack' delegates
    Voting results disputed in Minnesota conventions

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    Posted: April 06, 2008
    5:24 pm Eastern


    Andy Barnett
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    BLAINE, Minn. – Ron Paul supporters shook things up in at least three of Minnesota's congressional district conventions yesterday when they captured nearly all of the national delegates and alternates for the Republican National Convention this fall.

    There was controversy at Minnesota's 6th Congressional District Convention. The district covers part of the Twin Cities metro area and extends to the west and into nearby St. Cloud, Minn. Paul supporters were accused of dirty tricks.

    "They hijacked the convention," said Jeff Johnson who serves as Minnesota's Senate District 15 co-chairman.

    Two out of three national delegates elected were Ron Paul supporters and all three of the alternates supported Paul. After the election results were announced at the convention, they were immediately disputed when it was discovered that the candidates had agreed to support John McCain in pre-screening questions.

    "I had people coming up to me saying that they wanted to ensure that Ron Paul has a chance to speak at the convention," said Andy Aplikowsky, the vice chairman of the 6th District in Anoka County, "These people hid what their intentions were and that's deceptive."

    Prior to the voting, candidates running to be national delegates were screened by a nominating committee and asked two questions.

    "We asked them if they were Republican and then asked if they would support John McCain at the national convention" said Aplikowsky. "They had the option to answer yes, no, or maybe."

    The answers to these questions were then presented to the body of congressional delegates to take into consideration in the voting process. When it was discovered the elected national delegates were Paul supporters despite saying they would support McCain, the convention erupted in debate.

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    A motion was made to ensure the delegates supported McCain at the national convention.

    "I moved that we bind the national delegates and alternates to what they told the nominating committee which is what was reported to the voters," said Aplikowsky.

    A heated debate lasting more than an hour followed the motion. Eventually, the motion passed by a slim margin, but not without harsh words and harsh exchanges.

    The feeling among many of the congressional delegates who voted was that the Paul supporters had been dishonest. Ron Baert, one of the elected national delegates and a Ron Paul supporter disagreed.

    "I don't recall the exact wording of the question (about McCain), and so I wanted to clarify it," he said. "So I said that the endorsement hasn't even taken place yet, but that if McCain were endorsed I would support him, however I did not say I would vote to endorse him at the national convention."

    Could the wording of the pre-screening questions have been confusing? Aplikowsky who helped in the process didn't think that was likely.

    "There were 98 people who went through the questions and it was explained very thoroughly at the time the nominations report was given to the voters," he said.

    The 98 candidate names, and their answers to the pre-screening questions were displayed on an overhead projector as well as on a handout available to voters.

    Some Paul supporters wanted to know why the pre-screening questions were asked in the first place, and Baert said he and other Paul backers felt intimidated. So what was the purpose of the questions?

    "The intention was to identify people and who they were going to support," said Aplikowski. "It wasn't to keep out Ron Paul supporters but to present that information to the body of delegates to vote on, which is one of the purposes of the nominating committee."

    The RNC was contacted by phone while the debate was going on, and, according to party rules, the national delegates must endorse John McCain or their votes won't count. That left some angry.

    "If they intended to bind candidates to vote for the presumptive nominee (John McCain), they should've announced this at the beginning," said Paul supporter Jim Sutton. "This convention has never bound delegates to a candidate before. It was a torpedo job against us!"

    The Ron Paul Revolution also struck Minnesota's 4th and 5th districts where Paul supporters swept the votes for national delegates and alternates. Minnesota Chairman Ron Carey said that the delegates' decision to not unite behind McCain only hurts the Republican party.

    Paul has remained in the presidential race despite the fact McCain has now earned enough delegates to become the Republican nominee for president.

    Andy Barnett is a former radio talk-show host and freelance contributor to WND.







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    This is great news! I was just hoping for news like this yesterday with other ALPACERS!

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    This is fantastic!

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    It seems unfair and maybe illegal to force possible delegates to declare who they will vote for so I can understand the confusion Ron Paul supporters must have felt.They knew if they declared they supported RP they would not be chosen.

    GO RON PAUL !!!

    I can honestly say RP is the only candidate I trust to protect citizens rights and I would sleep well knowing he was in the White House.
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    How can the convention dictate how delegates will be vote? What is the point of having the convention. I know alot of Repblicans that don't want McShame. Why does he HAVE to be our choice.

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    I know alot of Repblicans that don't want McShame. Why does he HAVE to be our choice.
    He doesn't have to be your choice if Ron Paul decides in the end to stand as an independent or write-in candidate. Let's see what Dr. Paul finally does. He will have my vote if he puts himself in a position where I can give it.

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    we want nothing to do with McCain and a 3rd Bush Term
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    He elluded to it slightly on Glenn Beck.

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    Good!

    Good for the Ron Paulites! The GOP is doing their best to shut us and Ron Paul out..and I guess if you have to be manipulative to be able to fully participate...go for it!

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    Minnesota Chairman Ron Carey said that the delegates' decision to not unite behind McCain only hurts the Republican party.
    I disagree. The Republicans need to be shaken to the core. They need to wake up! They need to get back to the base and quit putting people in office like George Bush. If they make a mistake like that, then they should admit it and put someone up against them the next election, instead of letting them stay in office until heck freezes over. What did they do! They replaced Open Border Bush with Uber Open Border McCain!!!!!

    Who in their right mind continues to bet on a looser? Throwing good money after bad.

    They need to get the Globalist out of the party too.

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