Thread: President Trump, ObamaCare is not “dead” as you claim

Originally Posted by johnwk

It is not dead. The very purpose of Obamacare was to get the majority of American People to believe our federal government has been delegated a power to meddle in our health-care needs and choices, and to use its taxing power to provide subsidies to a privileged group to be used to buy health insurance.

What Bill passed the House which declares Obamacare is hereby repealed? The fact is, there is no such Bill and Obamcare, which created a sweeping federal power grab over our health-care needs and health-care insurance is still alive and well and the camel's nose is officially under the tent. Over time, just like social security, our federal government's involvement will grow inch, by inch, now that the Republican Party Leadership has joined the Democrat Party Leadership in usurping a power never intended to be exercised by Congress.




"When a free people submit to oppressive acts, passed in violation of their constitution, for a single day, they have thrown down the palladium of their liberty. Submit to despotism for an hour and you concede the principle. John Adams said, in 1775, Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud. It is the only thing a people determined to be free can do. Republics have often failed, and have been succeeded by the most revolting despotisms; and always it was the voice of timidity, cowardice, or false leaders counseling submission, that led to the final downfall of freedom. It was the cowardice and treachery of the Senate of Rome that allowed the usurper to gain power, inch by inch, to overthrow the Republic. The history of the downfall of Republics is the same in all ages. The first inch that is yielded to despotism __ the first blow, dealt at the Constitution, that is not resisted is the beginning of the end of the nation's ruin." ___ THE OLD GUARD, A MONTHLY JOURNAL DEVOTED TO THE PRINCIPLES OF 1776 AND1787.

JWK







Americancitizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance amaternity ward for the poverty stricken populations of other countries whoinvade our borders to give birth.

When you repeal the mandates, which this bill does, Obamacare is dead. The federal government can no longer force you to purchase as an individual or provide, if you're an employer. Everything you do is up to you. You can purchase if you want, you can provide employees with health care, if you want. What you do is up to you.

The rest of it is either government regulation of a business, like every other business in the country, or socialist government hand-outs like all of our government hand-outs.

72,000 Iowans could be first to lose coverage as insurance market collapses


The two largest health insurers offering individual coverage in Iowa, Aetna and Wellmark Blue Cross & Blue Shield, announced last month that they would stop selling such policies for next year because of heavy financial losses and uncertainty in the market.

Obamacare is stupid. But CBO said it was great. I guess they meant greatly stupid.

Originally Posted by Judy

When you repeal the mandates, which this bill does, Obamacare is dead. .

ObamaCare is not dead as alleged by Paul Ryan and others.

What Bill passed the House which declares ObamaCare is hereby repealed?

The fact is, there is no such Bill and Obamacare, which created a sweeping federal power grab over our health-care needs is still alive and well, and the camel's nose is now officially under the tent and Paul Ryan's Bill assumes a regulatory power in this area.

Over time, just like Social Security, our federal government's involvement will grow inch, by inch, now that the Republican Party Leadership has officially joined the Democrat Party Leadership in usurping and exercising a power never intended to be placed in Congress' hands by our Constitution.


JWK