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    President Trump is obligated, by law, to stop the caravan invasion from Mexico

    See: Annual ‘Caravan’ of Central-American Asylum Seekers – Heading to U.S.-Mexico Border – Sparks Trump’s Concern


    April 2nd, 2018


    ”Alex Mensing, one of the US collaborators who works for Pueblo Sin Fronteras, started in the city of Tapachula, which is located in the state of Chiapas, Mexico, and borders Guatemala. The caravan of about 1,100 people is currently in Oaxaca, Mexico, about 420 miles from their starting point. Mensing said the migrants would turn themselves in and request asylum.


    Pueblo Sin Fronteras said they would not respond to Trump's tweet, but stated that the refugee caravan "is a movement made of people who were forced to flee their countries of origin due to persecution and violence."



    Note: that Pueblo Sin Fronteras means people without borders.


    Keep in mind our Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land. The fact is, our federal government is specifically charged with power:


    ”To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions” See Article 1, Section 8, Clause 15



    As President, and in compliance with our federal government’s duty to protect the United States against invasions, Trump should immediately call out the National Guard, place them on the border, block these invaders, and protect the United States against this pending invasion. To not block these invaders at our border and allow them entry into the United States will, by default, entitle them to stay while a long legal process takes place which essentially allows them to stay and burden American Citizens with the costs of their economic needs: food, shelter, clothing, public schooling, medical attention, including the costs of females giving birth.


    It’s time for President Trump to nip this madness in the bud, and do what is right for America’s citizens.



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    American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance the economic needs of millions of poverty stricken, poorly educated, low and unskilled aliens who have invaded America borders.

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    This madness needs to stop now.

    We are not obligated to give an entire country asylum or take in their illegal aliens.

    No to Mexico and no to Central American's!

    Now get an official down there to head this off and tell them they WILL NOT be permitted to cross our border!

    NO MORE SCAM OF TURNING THEMSEVLES IN. THIS IS A PLANNED OUT AND PAID FOR INVASION!

    THIS IS NOT A "SINGLE" REQUEST FOR ASYLUM...THIS IS A DAMN TAKE OVER OF OUR COUNTRY AND WE MUST STOP IT NOW!

    NOW DO THE EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT WE WILL NOT TAKE IN ONE MORE ILLEGAL ALIEN, REFUGEE OR ASYLUM LIAR!
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnwk View Post
    The fact is, our federal government is specifically charged with power:


    ”To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions” See Article 1, Section 8, Clause 15
    The problem is we also have a conflicting law that if they apply for asylum, we must let them in, at least until we can give them a hearing.
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    Our President can exercise emergency powers as Commander in Chief!

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    The problem is we also have a conflicting law that if they apply for asylum, we must let them in, at least until we can give them a hearing.
    This is an invasion!


    As Commander in Chief, President Trump can exercise established emergency powers over our military and order them into action if, in his judgement, the common defense and general welfare of the United States are in jeopardy. In doing so, he must inform Congress within 48 hours of taking such action, and the troops cannot be committed for more than 60 days, unless Congress approves a longer time period. The President can also exercise an additional 30 days to re-deploy the troops.

    It’s time for President Trump to exercise his powers as Commander in Chief, and protect the United States and her citizens from this annual caravan invasion.

    JWK


    There was a time not too long ago in New York when the able-bodied were ashamed to accept home relief, a program created by Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1931 when he was Governor. Now, New York City and many other major cities are infested with countless government cheese factions from poverty stricken countries, who not only demand welfare, but use it to buy beer, wine, drugs, sex, and Lotto tickets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnwk View Post
    This is an invasion!
    Only part of one that we have tolerated for years.

    Quote Originally Posted by johnwk
    As Commander in Chief, President Trump can exercise established emergency powers over our military and order them into action if, in his judgement, the common defense and general welfare of the United States are in jeopardy. In doing so, he must inform Congress within 48 hours of taking such action, and the troops cannot be committed for more than 60 days, unless Congress approves a longer time period. The President can also exercise an additional 30 days to re-deploy the troops.
    So that can stop them from crossing illegally. But if they go to the Port Of Entry and claim asylum, what then? The laws apparently put in place under Obama, say they can stay.

    Maybe with an EO the President can close the border for 30 or 90 days. Wait them out. Give Congress time to change the laws.

    Those limitations are why President Trump said Mexico should stop them because our immigration policies do not protect us from this invasion.

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    jtdc wrote:

    Maybe with an EO the President can close the border for 30 or 90 days. Wait them out. Give Congress time to change the laws.
    Yes, jtdc, that would work. Also, when you know they'e from Honduras and we've just returned tens of thousands of Hondurans here on TPS back to Honduras because the conditions are fine and safe now, there is no justification or legal basis of merit at all to even entertain new asylum requests from Honduras. The same goes for Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador, Haiti, etc. When TPS is ending for those already here due to improved conditions, it's an absurdity to accept new ones at the gate when you know from your country conditions assessment that their claims are fraudulent and without merit. So I think just announce an EO that states no new asylum-seekers or refugees will be admitted into the US from Canada, Mexico, Central America and South America.
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    Migrant caravan stops in field in southern Mexico

    "While a group of about a couple of hundred men in the march broke off and hopped a freight train north on Sunday — probably to try to enter the United States — the rest seem unlikely to move until Wednesday or Thursday. Those are probably going to take buses to the last scheduled stop for the caravan, a migrant rights symposium in central Puebla state."
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    They aren't asylum-seekers, they're criminals.
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