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08-17-2008, 12:06 PM #1
Price of gas and 2008 Election
I think I'm seeing that as the price of gasoline drops frustration with Republican Party candidates is dropping, too. Obama was clearly disengenuous in blaming President Bush for the high prices in early summer anyway. How far down will gasoline go? Watching CNBC news many are predicting crude oil to drop back below $100/barrel very soon. (Three years ago predictions of $70/barrel sent shivers....) Economic slowing in Europe, following the US slowdown is probably a big factor. But Chinese demand will have to drop for a serious crash in crude oil prices, IMO.
So what does this mean for the election and immigration enforcement? An Obama win and gains in Congress by Democrats would spell HUGE trouble for immigration enforcement. We only escaped the Amnesty movement because of filibustering. If the Senate vote had moved ahead and won, only the US House of Representatives would have given us a prayer of stopping it. So this is how US House races look this week:
http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?d ... ings-house
They have a map to show just how liberal (Blue) a Congressional District is. The solid blue I would write off as gone. But the lighter blue and pink states could use some conservative campaigning. And if your Democrat candidate is an enforcement activist.... hallelujah!.
http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=28
So...let's assume that gasoline has dropped somewhere into the high two dollar range by November. People have learned to live with the 40% rise from three years ago. People are becoming evermore suspicious of Barack Obama and McCain hasn't croaked. The balance of power in the US Congress has not shifted significantly. How do we stop McCain from pushing for Comprehensive Immigration Reform?
My thought is for the House Immigration Caucus to sit down with him for a serious lesson. McCain is trying to be the noble, moderate Conservative; but he is so out of touch with ordinary Americans he can't see what immigration is doing to them. This is where House Republicans could play a strategic role.
And another thing. Keep driving less and less!"Men of low degree are vanity, Men of high degree are a lie. " David
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08-17-2008, 01:40 PM #2
Re: Price of gas and 2008 Election
My thoughts:And another thing. Keep driving less and less!
Gas will go back up after the elections or in January if Bush turns over the Presidency.
The Chinese are not allowed to drive much with the Olympics going on.
After the Olympics the price will go up. Their consumption is what drove the price up. I doubt our country can do much..
If Palestine puts down their guns, there will be peace.
If Israel puts down their guns there will be no more Israel.
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08-17-2008, 01:55 PM #3
What I see is that the players in the Big Oil companies have kept the prices so low that people became accustomed to the,.
I remember buying a book in the 1980s(maybe 90s) about how to convert a gasoline powered car to an electric powered one. (it took an electric motor and about 20 car batteries to do it but it worked)
If 5 to 10% of the people would do that then you would see the price of gasoline drop like a rock because Big Oil would see that sheeple can when provoked come up with other options.
Also I am not impressed with these hybrids claim to great gas mileage. You want equal gas mileage get a vintage VW bug, metropolitan or any small mid 70's Japanese econobox car and you will get 30-40 miles a gallon and this is forty year old technology. If the car companies had actually tried to increase the gas milage right now we should have 1 ton pickups getting 70-100 MPG.
But Big Oil wouldn't allow that now would they.
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08-17-2008, 07:06 PM #4
I got a 2007 Toyota Yaris sedan. We took our family of four from CA to ID (1,085 miles), fully loaded with AC on and averaging about 80 mph. We got an amazing 38-39 MPG. It felt good to save so much on gas. We spent about $220 total. You can't even get an airline ticket for ONE person that cheap anymore.
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08-17-2008, 09:21 PM #5
I heard that the very first order our dear pres signed was the one cutting funding for alternative energy research from 28 mil to 1 million.
Any truth to that?
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08-18-2008, 04:57 PM #6
Originally Posted by 5
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases ... 514-4.htmlIf Palestine puts down their guns, there will be peace.
If Israel puts down their guns there will be no more Israel.
Dick Morris
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08-18-2008, 05:25 PM #7Senior Member
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After Hurricane Katrina devastated the Gulf Coast, the shrimp fleet in Ft. Myers Beach, FL started gathering contributions of everything from bottled water to household items for a run up into the devastated area.
They even got a contribution of biodiesel from Midwest farmers, and though they were worried what it might do to their engines, all captains, after the boats got back, said they had never had better fuel efficiency and the engines ran as well as they had ever.
And here is another type of engine I find fascinating: Cyclone Power Technologies has refined the steam engine to run on anything from coal powder to orange peels.
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