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    Professor Bernard Anderson of Wharton Business School...

    I was just listening to this open borders advocate on BBC World debating Professor Briggs, an economist who's studied this issue for his entire career.

    Here are some of his claims:

    -Massive illegal immigration and unfettered legal immigration have absolutely no impact upon the African-American unemployment rate.

    -Immigration in general has no negative impact upon the economy, even third world, unskilled immigration.

    -There is "no substantial evidence" that this immigration has any effect on overall poverty.

    How the hell do these people get away with this pap?!

    Do they think we're complete idiots?

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    Shapka,

    That's cool, so now there is no reason not to send them back.
    Basically, mass deportation will not economically hurt the US, Mexico or the immigrants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dixie
    Shapka,

    That's cool, so now there is no reason not to send them back.
    Basically, mass deportation will not economically hurt the US, Mexico or the immigrants.

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    LOL.

    Neat trick.

    The whole discussion centered on labor mobility-the third guest was a South African labor economist/professor, from what I recall-but the remarkable thing was that this mouthpiece-even as he conceded that guest worker programs were almost without exception failures, and produced a permanent underclass-said that it was impossible to restrict immigration.

    Then he concluded his incoherent spiel with an appeal to "enforce the borders."



    I think he used to work in the Clinton Dept. of Labor.
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    Such a concerted effort to twist all the facts & figures.
    They're pulling out every stop to confuse the situation knowing most Americans will get so frustrated they'll close their ears to the situation.
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    This just proves why we have the situation we have on the university campuses, this is what the young people are being taught.

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    Unfortunately.

    Bernard Anderson, a black economist and professor at the University of Pennsylvania who has been quoted in newspaper articles about the impact of immigrants, said there is no question illegal immigration has reduced employment opportunities at the low end of the service sector.

    But immigration is not a viable wedge issue, he said.

    "The choice is to line up with right-wing reactionary forces under the claim that their action will benefit African Americans," Anderson said. "But those are the same forces that have been hell-bent on opposing civil rights, affirmative action and government programs for the less fortunate."
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... =printable

    Some more words of wisdom from Mr. Anderson:

    Anderson comes down on the other side:

    Weighing all the available evidence, and noting that the data are mixed, Anderson concludes that "there has been some displacement and some depression of wages" among U.S. citizens as a result of illegal immigration. "But it has not, in the main, had a significant effect in reducing the earnings and employment opportunities of American workers, including minority-group workers."
    In a discussion of immigration's effects on blacks, Anderson argues that many blacks who formerly held low-paying jobs have retired or moved up to better jobs, leaving the positions open for Hispanics:

    "Immigration, including illegal immigration, has not been terribly detrimental to employment opportunities for African Americans," he says. "I firmly believe this. It is for that reason that you don't find African American political leaders lining up with the opponents of immigration."
    He says there is indeed much anecdotal evidence that Hispanics now do many of the jobs once performed by African Americans, such as service jobs in the hotel industry. Anderson says he himself has witnessed such changes across the American South during his travels over the past 30 years. "No one will convince me that there has not been labor displacement," he says. Nonetheless, there also is evidence that many African Americans no longer perform low-skill service jobs -- not because illegal immigrants have taken those jobs from them, but because they have moved on to take better-paying jobs or have grown older and retired from the labor force.

    "There has been substantial [improvement] in the economic status of minorities in this country as a result of the civil rights movement," Anderson says. "There is no question that African Americans have benefited in their occupational status as a result of that." He says that 70 percent of black workers today hold white-collar and service-sector jobs, while others are working in the many auto-manufacturing plants that have sprung up across the South.
    http://blogs.ocregister.com/morningeye/ ... _deba.html
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