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    Interesting to hear the US side of the story!

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    crack down on the drug trade and get really tough when the Mexican Army comes across our borders, firing on Border Patrol, while escorting drug runners.
    nnTrixie, theres only ONE way to curtail MEXICO and the USA's drug problem.

    We need to tell our fellow citizens to quit buying illegal drugs, the US consumes more drugs than other country.

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    Indeed I feel that US citizens, such as your good selves, really cannot expect the Mexicans to have any respect for US laws when the US Government takes such a repressive and overbearing attitude towards sovereign affairs in Mexico.
    Mexico is a sovereign nation. Obviously, the United States is not. What happens in Mexico doesn't stay in Mexico. What would you have us do?
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    Hypocrisy, Welcome to the form and for your point of view. But (Is there not always one) would it not make more since to tell The USA to stay out of our affairs? Would it not make more since to protest in the streets of your own country to try and induce change? Would it not make since to work hard in your own country with your countrymen to build an empire greater, more prosperous then the USA.
    The reason they are here is plain and simple. It is easier to get handouts and steel then perform the work it would take to make change in their own countries. It is easier to sneak across a border and forge papers to gain employment, education for their kids, free foods and medical care via welfare then to petition and fight for what they deserve and need from their own governments. Why do anything if you can lie and cheat then they will simply hand you back ten fold compared to what you actually work for?
    I am not saying they are not hard working because they are, but when you consider the average cost per year to educate one child here in Oregon is 10,000. and you consider what the average illegal makes 5.50 per hr for only part of the year well you do the math. We have not even discussed the welfare, legal, Insurance premiums and subsidized housing etc.
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    I realize Americans consume too m any drugs - legal and illegal.

    We were discussing the (I think) put up charade about Mexico legalizing small amount so drugs and supposedly Pres. Bush getting 'tough' with him.

    I don't think that little exchange had anything to do with drugs at all but was show and tell. That seems to be all there is to this Presidency.

    So my premise was if he wanted to get tough with Fox - he would really get tough with Fox.

    Nothing really to do with stopping drugs - that's an entirely other discussion.
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    Would you respect the laws of a country whose government continually told you what you can and cannot do within your own country?
    Well, Hypocrisy, I should think not.

    Have you read any recent articles? That Vicente Fox has been dictating US policy for quite some time now? Did you know he printed his border jumpers up a comic book to teach them how to lay low until they could infiltrate our society and look like they belong here?

    I'd call those fine neighbors.

    And you are right, Mexico may not be the richest country in the world but it rates right up there. Funny thing how 5% of the people control 95% of the money, isn't it? I'm sure you have heard the term "third world." Personally, I don't care to sit around and let them turn the US into still one more third world nation.
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