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    Renegotiate Nafta? Mexicans Say Get On With It

    Renegotiate Nafta? Mexicans Say Get On With It

    MARCH 25, 2017

    President Enrique Peña Nieto of Mexico could kick a decision to his successor, a potential blow to the preservation of Nafta.
    Credit Rebecca Blackwell/Associated Press

    MEXICO CITY — For more than two decades, free trade has been at the heart of Mexico’s relationship with America, responsible for pumping a stream of vehicles, audio components and avocados north and cheap corn, cattle and software south.

    To the nation’s leaders, it was central, vital, nonnegotiable. At least until President Trump came along, promising to upend nearly $500 billion in annual trade between the two countries if it could not be re-engineered more in America’s favor.

    Now, the Mexico’s leaders have a new priority: urging their American counterparts to hurry up and get on with it.

    While free trade has long been an article of faith in Mexico, uncertainty over the fate of the North American Free Trade Agreement is hitting the country hard.

    There has been an abrupt slowdown in foreign investment, pinching off much-needed capital as investors wait to see how things shake out. Last year, such investment fell by 6 percent, a prelude to what analysts have predicted will be a 21 percent drop in 2017. Add to that a flagging peso, lowered growth expectations, rising interest rates and looming political headwinds, and the urgency becomes clear.

    Mexico, and its investors, need certainty.

    For the moment, the Americans are not giving it to them, and don’t seem in a rush to do so. This month, Commerce Secretary Wilbur L. Ross said it would be later in the year before real talks even started — after a mandatory 90-day consultation period with Congress, which has yet to start.

    The delay has irked the Mexicans, who didn’t want to renegotiate the pact in the first place.

    “From the Trump and American perspective, this is purely an optional problem,” said Michael Camuñez, the president of ManattJones Global Strategies and an assistant secretary of commerce in the Obama administration. “They have taken one of the most productive trade relationships in the world and amazingly have turned it into a problem.”

    Driving the pressure is an especially delicate political environment in Mexico. President Enrique Peña Nieto’s approval ratings are near single digits, and further delays in clarifying the future of Nafta could imperil not only growth, but also employment at a time when the government can least afford to lose support.

    Adding to the uncertainty are midterm elections in the State of Mexico, the country’s most populous, from which the president hails. The state, a longtime center of power for Mr. Peña Nieto and his party, will hold elections on June 4, and it is far from clear that his party will win. A loss would be a devastating blow to the party, which has never lost there before, and would spell trouble in the 2018 presidential elections.

    Which presents yet another paradox: The longer the Americans wait on Nafta negotiations, the more political pressure it places on Mr. Peña Nieto, reducing the flexibility he has to accommodate demands, or surprises, from Mr. Trump’s team.

    For instance, if job losses begin to mount within the next six months, as some economists predict, the public pressure on the president may be so immense he could have a much harder time selling a revised agreement to Congress and Mexicans at large.

    “The longer we wait, the harder it is going to be for Trump to get what he wants because the nationalist pressure on Peña Nieto will be cumulative,” said Pamela Starr, an associate professor of international relations at the University of Southern California. “The longer he is in the presidency, from today forward, the more of a lame duck he is.”

    All of this means that the leverage Mr. Trump is looking for could start to diminish.

    Already, the Mexican government has grown more stridently critical of the Trump administration’s stance on Nafta. The Mexican economic minister has said the nation will walk away from any deal that does not suit the country’s needs, and even proffered a list of deal-breakers: any sort of discussion of paying for a border wall, taxing remittances or carrying out a so-called border adjustment tax.

    At the same time, there is a growing awareness that dealing with Nafta, a campaign priority for Mr. Trump, has suddenly taken a back seat to more pressing battles. And Mexicans have taken note.

    “It is clear that Trump’s priority right now in terms of his agenda is to try to pass Trumpcare, and we know how long that takes,” said Carlos Elizondo, a professor at the School of Government at the Monterrey Institute of Technology and Higher Education. “The outcome of that debate and process in the U.S. Congress will undoubtedly affect every other item on his list, including, of course, Nafta.”

    That could be a saving grace. Those reading the tea leaves of an eventual negotiation are hopeful that with Mr. Trump distracted, administration officials, including Mr. Ross, Secretary of State Rex W. Tillerson and others will take control of the talks. Both men have run global businesses in complex industries, and many here hope that will give them a more nuanced view of trade.

    An evolving belief in the realm of business people, academics and even officials is that members of Mr. Trump’s cabinet will understand the importance of Nafta, and move to preserve and expand it — not tear it apart.

    “When you know the kind of value chain that we have, you understand that it is a very difficult world to destroy, almost impossible,” said Juan Pablo del Valle Perochena, the chief executive of Mexichem, a Mexican chemical and building materials manufacturer. “There is so much at stake, of course, more for Mexico than the U.S., but there is a lot of value already in place. And when people understand that, they don’t worry so much.”

    Still, the uncertainty has had a clear impact on the Mexican economy. The peso has dropped by double-digit percentages since Mr. Trump’s election, forcing the central bank of Mexico to raise interest rates in February to an eight-year high to anchor inflation and bolster the currency.

    Expecting further pressure from the tense relationship with the United States, economists from an array of institutions have revised downward the expected 2017 growth for Mexico. Bancomer, a Mexican bank, for instance, revised its growth expectations for the Mexican economy to 1.0 percent for the year.

    Delays that might bleed into 2018 will place negotiations in the middle of a presidential election year in Mexico. Indeed, some analysts suggest that Mr. Peña Nieto could kick the decision to his successor if negotiations go on too long. That, according to some, could be disastrous for those hoping to preserve Nafta.

    The leading candidate, for now, is Andrés Manuel López Obrador, a populist whose candidacy has been given a major boost by the election of Mr. Trump. Mr. López Obrador, a two-time candidate who nearly won the election in 2006, has promised to end a relationship of “subordination” to the United States, while focusing on domestic issues.

    It is unlikely that Mr. López Obrador will take as conciliatory a line in negotiations as the current administration.

    “The temptation to simply delay the negotiation until it becomes the next president’s problem is real,” Mr. Elizondo said.

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    This stupid country of Mexico has worn out its welcome. It really has. It's people come up here and protest in our streets, wave their flags, steal our jobs, run drugs, kill and rape people, suck on welfare benefits, depress wages, cause unemployment and poverty, overpopulate our communities and schools, whine, whine, whine, steal our money, run up our debt, call us names, and back home in Mexico, your officials threaten to flood our country with killer narcotics and terrorists.

    I'm really looking forward to the redo of NAFTA or just terminating it altogether. Either way is good so long as it balances the trade deficit and bring a lot of our manufacturing operations back home to the United States and keeps them here. We'll still do lots of business with Mexico, but we'll do more balanced trade which is he only way trade deals can work for the United States. Otherwise we need to return to tariffs.

    Another solution of course is passing the FairTax which taxes all imports the same as our domestic producers plus any duties, imposts, tariffs and so forth the government may have on countries from whom we import goods.
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    Yes, scrap it and start over.

    As for the 'cheap corn', not sure I'm buying it, unless American agribusiness is operating farms in Mexico.

    The agribusiness lobby is so strong, there is no way they would allow 'cheap corn' to come across the border.

    My son once had an employee who was American of Mexico descent. He still had a large extended family in Mexico who apparently had extensive land holdings in Mexico. Each year he had to return to Mexico where the family gathered to sign an agreement to not grow crops on the land.

    The American government paid each of them a sum. His part was $40K a year and he was only one of many grandchildren.

    I think there is a lot we don't know about these so called 'Free Trade' deals.
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