LOL! Go read page 1 of the thread and catch up. The whole discussion started about the difference between Brat's 3 in 1 bill, the thread subject, versus the Raise Act, my preference over Brat's bill. Maybe next time before you inject your opinions into a discussion, you might suit up for the game.
Tree Company to Pay $95 MILLION for Hiring Illegal AliensQuote:
Originally Posted by Beezer
Significant Increases in I-9 Fines and Immigration ... - E-Verify & I-9 News
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Jul 19, 2016 - The maximum penalty for the unlawful employment of an immigrant worker will increase from $3,200 to $4,313
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E-Verify Laws and Legislation in your State | Tracker Corporation
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. . . a $500 fine for each employee and non-employee the company failed to verify.
You isolated E-Verify and turned it into a debate with your opposition to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Judy
Judy wrote:
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Yeah, I don't want to "FORCE" our employers to use E-Verify if they don't want to. Our employers aren't the problem, illegal aliens are the problem.
That's not what you said here:Quote:
Originally Posted by Judy
Judy wrote:
Make up your mind, please.Quote:
It's just been clarified by NumbersUSA email alert today that Brat's 3 in 1 bill has nothing to do with amnesty for DACA's or anyone else. It's a no amnesty bill to eliminate chain migration, visa lottery and pass e-verify. We're getting bad information.
JohnDoe2 replied that they would add the DACA Amnesty to the Brat Bill at the last minute right before the vote.
When you interject yourself into a discussion, you need to read the whole thing. Otherwise, you are unsuited for the game.
My position is clear as a bell. I'm not a big fan of E-Verify, therefore I oppose the Brat 3 in 1 bill which contains E-Verify on its face, preferring the much broader RAISE ACT on its merits that does not contain E-Verify.
Why you would prefer the flimsy little Brat bill because of E-Verify over the fantastic RAISE ACT is VERY ODD, especially when it's rumored that McCaul et al, NOT Brat, wants to use the skinny little flimsy Brat bill as a trade for DACA Amnesty.
Very odd indeed.
What is odd is your failure to comprehend what I actually said. I never discussed or spoke in support of any bill over another bill. All I really spoke on is my support for E-Verify. So where you keep coming up with this "why you would prefer" garbage is coming from left field.Quote:
Originally Posted by Judy
Typical Judy tactic .... deflection through obfuscation.
And like usual you've wasted everyone's time taking a thread totally off its course into your off the rails sidetrack to attack and insult me because I'm not a big fan of E-Verify. I'm a HUUUUGE fan of the RAISE ACT to solve our illegal immigration problem, not Brat's bill which has no interior enforcement, no new ICE agents, no authorization for state and local law enforcement to engage in immigration enforcement, no judges, no prosecutors, no wall funding, no green card reductions, etc., etc.
The RAISE ACT needs to be the main thing we're talking about, it's a massive comprehensive enforcement bill that also reduces legal immigration by 50%, eliminates the Visa lottery, and ends chain migration for all immigration.
Okay, I gave you the last word. Are you done ranting now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Judy
Oh no, I'll rant about passing the RAISE ACT until it passes. Why aren't you and JD2 doing likewise? Very odd.
"Groups like Facebook's FWD.us are using emails, text messages, and social media to rally illegal aliens and their supporters to call Congress to demand "Dream Act" passage by Dec. 9!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Judy
Call Congress Now To Stop Dream Act Amnesty 2017
Started by ALIPAC, 11-14-2017 06:29 AM
I've always thought it important that while you're working against something to also be working for something. Just an idea. Like "NO AMNESTY, PASS THE RAISE ACT".
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Originally Posted by ALIPAC
https://www.alipac.us/f8/call-congre...2017-a-352549/
YES, tell them "NO AMNESTY, PASS THE RAISE ACT".
Attach the RAISE ACT to the Senate Tax Bill. Welfare savings are enormous with passage of the RAISE ACT.
TAKE THE FOLLOWING STEPS TODAY!
Form your own version of our message...
-- > "We oppose any form of Amnesty for illegal immigrants including DACA, Dream Act, and immigration reform Amnesties! We have no confidence in any new laws. Enforce our existing immigration and border laws immediately to protect American lives, property, jobs, and taxpayer resources as the US Constitution requires instead of undermining those with more talk of Amnesty!" <---
https://www.alipac.us/f8/call-congre...2017-a-352549/
No match letters don't seem to do much good. All that info you're afraid the government's gonna get on us, I think they've already got it all. I'd be shocked if they don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Judy
My understanding is that the Tax bill is going to have its own problems in the Senate. Adding any legislation to that will make it that much more likely not to pass. Then we get nothing. I would support either the RAISE Act or Brat's bill since Brat opposes Amnesty. I wish we could scrunch them both together and get it all!Quote:
Originally Posted by Judy
If you file taxes they know where you live, where you work, spouse, kids, income, etc. Your driver's license provides the rest of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by imblest
During one of my calls today to those listed by Alipac to contact I was reminded by someone that Dave Brat had spoken of a trade off of DACA for E Verify and the end of chain migration.
Dave Brat is on with Laura Ingraham (FOX News) this evening. I missed the DACA part. He is talking about the legislation he has crafted together from past legislation and ideas of Lamar Smith and Bob Goodlatte. Video may be available. Laura's show reruns later.
I predict that at the last minute, right before the vote, they will add in the DACA Amnesty.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach
That has been their plan the whole time. IMO
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Originally Posted by JohnDoe2
You are right to be suspect JohnDoe2 of anything put forward in Congress. Even if it starts well it doesn't end well as we have seen.
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The above information was included in an email I received from NumbersUSA today.Quote:
"One beauty of E-Verify for those who are particularly concerned about privacy is that E-Verify does NOT create any new database or gather any information from workers that the government does not already have. The long-running voluntary system relies only on information in existing databases to protect American workers. It is full of safeguards that protect any American from mistakenly being disadvantaged by the system -- as proven over all these years of use.
"Mandatory E-Verify is the most unobtrusive action that can be taken to make sure that only Americans and other legal workers can hold a U.S. job. ...