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NO CONSTITUTION SINSE 1871

Our Republic was destroyed in 1871 with one two letter word… “ofâ€

Already know this one. But there is some issue as to whether or not it has been enforced. As the Constitution already gave the Federal side control over the area 10 miles square and any Federal lands purchased from the States for the use of forts, and armouries. Another little tidbit, is that congress is supposed to by law provide a budget for the navy every 2 years. When's the last time that was done for public knowledge.

Look up NCAR John Ainsworth over at youtube. An intersting little lecture about the Reconstruction.

Then go over to google video, and look up The Money Masters (How International Bankers gained control of America).

If you've not read it, or listened to the audio book, again at google, listen to the Creature From Jekyll Island.

That should help you out with more info. That is, unless you've already imbibed them.

Thanks. I have heard the "island" video. It was about the Fed banking cartel. Guess I missed the part about us not having a Constitution anymore. So is it that the 10ac United states corporation holds the rest of the county in trust ownership? I know that a land "deed" holds us as tenants to what we think we own. I think we are the only incorporated country in the world that I know of. You seem so ho hum... I find this very disturbing.

http://www.examiner.com/x-14129-Grand-R ... know-Pt-II

Yes, I already know and understand this.

To sum it up, the American People, i.e. citizens, are nothing more than tennants like our European counterparts. We have not been born a free people since before the adoption of the 14th Ammendment. Since then, we have all been born in bondage to whims of the Federal Government.

But this all didn't happen overnight. It has been a slow process over the last 150+ years. Incrimentally changed and enforced, so that it wouldn't be seen by just one generation. For if they did it that way, it would have been like Custer's Last Stand in DC.

But if you want to know where the crimes are and have taken place. Follow the money. That is where all gets subverted. And that is how vile, godless, and designing servants are elected, and then call themselves leaders. Through they are not. They are "public servants". And since when does a servant become the master?

Sorry, didn't want to sound ho hum about it. I have known this for over ten years, so I know where some efforts should be concentrated, but I can only do so much by myself.

I guess I was not posting to find others that know and understand as much as I was posting to share.

If a true solution is to be found it will have to stand up in court. Just like Orly's case. It keeps getting thrown out because it is not valid corporate law and needs to be restructured.

This constitution and 14th issue is no small potatoes. It big time affects immigration and the illegally problems. Everything is coming from the wrong direction...LEGALLY. Your ho hum...may be a very good thing. You have incite that most of us just learning do not. Please help educate me and others.

A LITTLE "TRUE" STORY...

ONE... of the reasons I understand law. Back in 1982 I was in court...I spare you the details. After it was over and I was ruled against the judge called me to his bench. He said:

"Steve...if it matters to you...and I know that it does...you need to understand that there is right wrong and legal. As a matter of right wrong and morality...you absolutely won your case. But as a matter of law you left me nothing to defend you with. Now please...never come into my court again unless you are prepared with the documentation I need to rule for you." That was it...he stood and walked away...

I have pondered and studied all this time about that statement. It was a life changing moment for me...a book mark in my life. I know now that he was right...my case was morally magnificent... The judge was visibly upset ruling against me and angry with me because he had to. I will never do that to a judge again. I will understand his position and put together my case void of emotion and packed with case law. The morality will show through on its own...if it is riotous and just...not an attempt to self promote or draw attention.

If you have an interest in this...a wonderful site DirtyUncleSam is posted in my signature box. PM me please. Thanks.

Interesting. So in the oiginal Constitution, United States is not capitalized? I never knew that actually, even though I have a copy of the original Constitution somewhere. So our country name was intended to be America, not the United States.

Dang! Well, let me tell you what I rapidly think the solution to all of this is and that is we repeal in its entirety the Act of 1871 return all of DC back to Maryland and Virginia from whence it came, and retain title only to the individual government properties owned by the federal government or we the people. That collapses entirely the "corporation" and should return us to the original Constitution.

Right?

That of course means no statehood EVER for DC which I adamantly oppose and don't even think they should have a Congresscritter under the present scenario. Once returned to Virginia and Maryland, they'll vote as residents of one state or the other, whichever one the land they reside on is returned to based on the original land grants.

Originally Posted by Judy

Interesting. So in the oiginal Constitution, United States is not capitalized? I never knew that actually, even though I have a copy of the original Constitution somewhere. So our country name was intended to be America, not the United States.

Dang! Well, let me tell you what I rapidly think the solution to all of this is and that is we repeal in its entirety the Act of 1871 return all of DC back to Maryland and Virginia from whence it came, and retain title only to the individual government properties owned by the federal government or we the people. That collapses entirely the "corporation" and should return us to the original Constitution.

Right?

That of course means no statehood EVER for DC which I adamantly oppose and don't even think they should have a Congresscritter under the present scenario. Once returned to Virginia and Maryland, they'll vote as residents of one state or the other, whichever one the land they reside on is returned to based on the original land grants.

Boy Judy! You catch on quick! This was one of the reasons I have locked horns on the tax issues with you. If we reduce the size of the government to what it is supposed to be, according to the
"organic" Constitution of the united states of America; we can then see just exactly what is needed instead of continually feeling like we are players in Little Shop of Horrors. But getting them to give it up willingly will be the trick. From what I've seen in the past, once power is given, those that receive it, don't let go of it without a big tussle, and that is my greatest fear. That it won't have to come to that for the American People to put the genie back in the bottle, and really cork it good this time.

Originally Posted by Hylander_1314

Originally Posted by Judy

Interesting. So in the oiginal Constitution, United States is not capitalized? I never knew that actually, even though I have a copy of the original Constitution somewhere. So our country name was intended to be America, not the United States.

Dang! Well, let me tell you what I rapidly think the solution to all of this is and that is we repeal in its entirety the Act of 1871 return all of DC back to Maryland and Virginia from whence it came, and retain title only to the individual government properties owned by the federal government or we the people. That collapses entirely the "corporation" and should return us to the original Constitution.

Right?

That of course means no statehood EVER for DC which I adamantly oppose and don't even think they should have a Congresscritter under the present scenario. Once returned to Virginia and Maryland, they'll vote as residents of one state or the other, whichever one the land they reside on is returned to based on the original land grants.

Boy Judy! You catch on quick! This was one of the reasons I have locked horns on the tax issues with you. If we reduce the size of the government to what it is supposed to be, according to the
"organic" Constitution of the united states of America; we can then see just exactly what is needed instead of continually feeling like we are players in Little Shop of Horrors. But getting them to give it up willingly will be the trick. From what I've seen in the past, once power is given, those that receive it, don't let go of it without a big tussle, and that is my greatest fear. That it won't have to come to that for the American People to put the genie back in the bottle, and really cork it good this time.

I love Americans. I've never been prouder of my country than I am right now. Americans for no money and no purpose except saving their country, spending hours a day pouring through old laws and legislation and sorting out all kinds of misguided, wrongful and perhaps even evil deeds that put US and all we have and believe in at risk.

Yes, I understood how you felt about the FairTax, and why, but now you see how the FairTax solves many of these problems and removes a huge burden from the American People while restoring the power granted and reserved by the people under the US Constitution to control their government, which means most assuredly, controlling the strings and contents of its purse. The FairTax restores our liberty and prosperity as originally intended while providing a detailed method for constitutionally collecting taxes to sustain our government without force, without a police state, without mandates. You shop, you spend, you pay. If you're mad and upset, you stop shopping, you save, you don't pay, and OH BOY will they be politely and humbly asking US "what's wrong citizens, why aren't you happy, what can we do to serve you better" and then we'll tell them, and then they will do as we tell them, and when we're happy again, we'll start shopping again and they'll get their tax money again. And since they'll know every month instead of once a year, how "happy" or "unhappy" we are, we'll get this place in shape very quickly and keep it that way. The international bankers will despise US of course, but then of course, that'll be a good thing. Maybe they'll go away and plot on ... China.

www.fairtax.org

Ever notice whenever the government deals with us, like in court, the papers they serve you with your name is in all capital letters. We are in essence a corporation before the court.

There was a pretty good thread on this on the Ron Paul forums.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=213636

Originally Posted by StokeyBob

Ever notice whenever the government deals with us, like in court, the papers they serve you with are in all capital letters. We are in essence a corporation to the court.

There was a pretty good thread on this on the Ron Paul forums.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=213636

That's true and something I'd never thought about before. I do know though the importance of capitalized versus not-capitalized in the law and it's most disturbing that this stunt was used in the Act of 1871. It must be repealed and the lands returned to Maryland and Virginia.