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    Rohrabacher on Bolton: ‘We Could Be the Dynamic Duo’ at State Department



    by DAN RIEHL
    8 Dec 2016
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    California Rep. Dana Rohrabacher discussed with Breitbart News Daily SiriusXM host Raheem Kassam Thursday the possibility of a “dynamic duo” of himself and former United Nations Ambassador John Bolton at the State Department if both are appointed in some capacity by President-elect Donald Trump.

    Rohrabacher responded, “I would think it would be very easy for us to work together. I would hope that we could be the dynamic duo that takes on these very serious and heavy problems and challenges we face not only around the world, but in cleaning up our own State Department, and John would be ideal for that.”

    Several recent reports have hinted that both may be in consideration for major roles in Trump’s State Department: “Two sources late Saturday said that there is an emerging ‘consensus package’ of Rohrabacher, a long-serving California lawmaker who heads a House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee, as the secretary and Bolton as his chief deputy.”

    “John Bolton and I are very close friends, and I have admired him for years,” Rohrabacher added.

    Rohrabacher was very critical of the State Department during the interview, saying, “Americans and our well being is not what’s first in their minds.” He pointed out their globalist approach that relies heavily on the United Nations and multi-national solutions to every problem. He also said they have been relatively ineffective in fighting the war on Islamic terrorism, among other important issues.

    Recent reports have indicated Trump may be considering appointing both Rohrabacher and Bolton.

    Rohrabacher has already said he would be happy to serve in the incoming Trump administration and reiterated the claim in another recent Breitbart report: “Rohrabacher told Breitbart News that if Trump asks him to serve as secretary of state, he would give up his congressional career to join the incoming president’s team.”

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    Go for it, Trump! After your horrible choice for Secretary of Labor, you're in need of redemption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    Go for it, Trump! After your horrible choice for Secretary of Labor, you're in need of redemption.

    Stop trashing Trump, that is all you seem to do.

    He is not as stupid as you would like to believe him to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beezer View Post
    Stop trashing Trump, that is all you seem to do.

    He is not as stupid as you would like to believe him to be.
    Before attacking me, perhaps you should go read the thread about our future Secretary of Labor. Once you've read it, then come back and tell me I'm wrong.

    http://www.alipac.us/f9/trump-expect...retary-341397/

    What's wrong with questioning a cabinet choice? So far there are two of them I don't like. Nothing wrong with keeping things fair and balanced.
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    Just came across Fox News that Rex Tillerson, CEO of ExxonMobil is becoming a favorite for Secretary of State and there's another meeting between Trump and Tillerson in a couple of days or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Just came across Fox News that Rex Tillerson, CEO of ExxonMobil is becoming a favorite for Secretary of State and there's another meeting between Trump and Tillerson in a couple of days or so.
    You must have been watching Bill O'Reilly. I heard this too. Did you hear that Guiliani was offered the DHS job but turned it down. Wow, first I've heard of that. Guess Guiliani thought the job was beneath him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beezer View Post
    Stop trashing Trump, that is all you seem to do.

    He is not as stupid as you would like to believe him to be.
    Easy now Beezer, MW has a right to question Trump's decision with regards to immigration issues here. It is what we do. While we endorsed and supported Trump we are not Trump worshipers. Our job is to analyze what is going on correctly and while Im just digging in on the info it does appear that Trump just appointed a real immigration stinker as Secretary of Labor.

    I agree with MW... Trump needs to appoint more immigration hardliners fast because our main candidates are sitting in the wings and if he appoints Mitt Romnety to anything yall better be ready to fight Trump because that will be a very bad sign.

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    I think everyone needs to keep in mind where we were before Trump and acknowledge and accept that he understands the immigration issue as well as most of US. He is also the bravest advocate for our cause because he staked a fortune, an empire, his name, his reputation and a Presidential Election on our issue. In return he has been trashed for it every minute of every day for 18 months and it isn't over yet. So personally it seems a little mean-spirited and ungrateful to hit Trump for what someone else said in 2013 when almost everyone was saying it.

    In defense of Mr. Puzder, he was a business man assessing the situation based on what he heard from the media back then. He wasn't at home on the computer researching hours a day trying to get to the bottom of illegal immigration like we do. So I wouldn't worry too much about what he said back in 2013 when he was saying what everybody was saying in the business community, in most of government, and obviously the majority of California where he's from. I mean what else would you expect a businessman in Southern California to say publicly in 2013??!!

    Here is Puzder's mission from Trump:

    Trump picks Southern California fast-food executive Andy Puzder for Labor secretary

    President-elect Donald Trump has chosen Andy Puzder to be Labor secretary. Here is some background on Puzder. (Dec. 8, 2016)
    Jim PuzzangheraJim PuzzangheraContact Reporter

    Fast-food executive Andrew Puzder, President-elect Donald Trump’s pick to be the next Labor Department secretary, turned around the Southern California-based parent company of Carl’s Jr. and Hardee’s with help from scantily clad women hawking oversized burgers in racy ads.

    More recently, he’s raised his own profile by becoming an outspoken national advocate on behalf of businesses, railing against increased government regulation, bemoaning the costs of the Affordable Care Act and serving as an economic advisor to Trump.

    On Thursday, Trump announced his intention to nominate Puzder to head the department charged with ensuring workers’ rights and safety — and likely to lead an effort to undo many Obama administration initiatives.

    “Andy will fight to make American workers safer and more prosperous by enforcing fair occupational safety standards and ensuring workers receive the benefits they deserve, and he will save small businesses from the crushing burdens of unnecessary regulations that are stunting job growth and suppressing wages,” Trump said in a statement.
    http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...208-story.html
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    Judy wrote:

    In defense of Mr. Puzder
    This isn't only about something he said in 2013. Please read the article below. He has pushed for illegal immigrant amnesty as recent as last year. There is no defense for for this man. Judy, it's fine to support Trump (all of us on here do), but please don't let the support block your view on bad decisions such as Mr. Puzder. Puzder stands for absolutely everything you, I, and all ALIPAC members stand against. I couldn't imagine a much worse choice for Secretary of Labor.

    Trump Expected to Tap Labor Secretary Who Prefers Foreign Labor to American Workers



    by JULIA HAHN
    8 Dec 2016
    Washington D.C.

    President-elect Donald J. Trump is expected to name as his Labor Secretary fast food executive Andy Puzder, who stands diametrically opposed to Trump’s signature issues on trade and immigration — which won him the election.

    Puzder is the chief executive of CKE Restaurants, which includes Carl’s Jr. and Hardee’s.

    Advocates for American wage-earners say that Puzder as Secretary of Labor is alarming because he will be in charge of enacting policies that directly impact American workers, whom Puzder believes are “unwilling” to do certain jobs. Puzder has suggested that available U.S. jobs should instead be filled by imported foreign labor.

    Puzder has even gone so far as to suggest that he prefers foreign laborers to native-born American workers because foreign nationals are more grateful and have a better “attitude.”

    The fact is that there are jobs in this country that U.S. citizens, for whatever reason, are reluctant or unwilling to perform,” he said in a 2013 Politico op-ed in which he advocated for expansionist immigration policies.

    As the Washington Post reported, Puzder suggested that flipping burgers is one such job Americans simply won’t do:


    “Andrew Puzder, head of the California-based Hardee’s fast-food chain, said his business is a good fit for immigrants because they are willing to start at the bottom and work up…

    “Immigrants appreciate what America offers,” Puzder said during a recent visit to Washington to lobby for immigration reform. “They are not taking jobs from Americans, because there are not sufficient Americans applying for jobs. Maybe they feel they have better options.

    Acclaimed Manhattan Institute scholar Heather Mac Donald was critical of Puzder’s logic in a piece titled, “Does America Need More Hamburger-Flippers?” Mac Donald wrote:

    Isn’t the argument for importing low-skilled immigrants that they take jobs that Americans won’t do? Farm labor is almost certainly one of those hard-to-fill jobs, but it’s news to me that working a fast-food counter is another — unless perhaps that niche becomes dominated by Mexican or Central American immigrants. A black kid from Watts is going to have a hard time getting hired at a Carl’s Jr. in South Central L.A. where all the employees speak to each other in Spanish.

    Polling data suggests that Puzder’s desire to import foreign workers to fill U.S. jobs stands opposed to the desires of the American electorate.

    Indeed, a 2014 poll from Kellyanne Conway’s polling company found that by nearly a 10-1 margin, Americans believe that companies should raise wages and improve working conditions for workers already here – rather than importing new foreign labor from abroad to fill American jobs.

    Yet, during a 2013 AEI panel, Puzder seemed to express his preference for foreign workers over native-born Americans. Puzder said that his California labor force, which has a high percentage of foreign-born workers, is comprised of “hardworking, dedicated, creative people that really appreciate the fact that they have a job. Whereas in other parts of the country you often get people who are saying, ‘I can’t believe I have to work this job.’ With the immigrant population you always have a “Thank-God-I-have-this-job” kind of attitude, so you end up with a real different feeling. Now that’s a gross generalization… but I think it’s probably accurate.”

    Last year, Puzder even joined forces with Michael Bloomberg, Bob Iger, and Rupert Murdoch’s open borders lobbying firm, the Partnership for a New American Economy, to call for “free-market solutions” to our immigration system.

    “America should be a destination for hard-working immigrants from all over the world. Our economy will benefit from that,” Puzder wrote, perhaps unaware of the fact that the U.S. already has the world’s most generous immigration system– admitting one million plus foreign nationals on green cards; one million guest workers, dependents, and refugees; and half a million foreign students each and every year.

    Puzder has been equally vocal about his support for immigration amnesty.

    In 2013, Puzder lamented that the federal government’s current immigration policy is unfair to “undocumented workers who are lured to the country by the prospect of employment, [but] then must live in the shadows.”

    Similarly, in a 2015 op-ed published in the Wall Street Journal’s open borders opinion pages, Puzder declared that “every candidate should support a path to legal status” for all illegal immigrants “willing to accept responsibility for their actions”.

    In a July 2016 Wall Street Journal op-ed co-authored with Stephen Moore, Puzder insisted that the President-elect’s plan to enforce U.S. immigration law and repatriate the illegal population is “unworkable.”

    “[Many undocumented immigrants] live in fear of being deported, losing what they’ve built and being separated from their families,” Puzder separately told reporters during a 2015 conference call with top GOP donors. “Our values indicate we should be the party of immigration reform.”

    By “immigration reform” Puzder was referring to a widely-used progressive euphemism that means amnesty and flooding the labor market with foreign workers. Indeed, as Puzder himself explained in 2013, “comprehensive immigration reform” should include “a robust legal immigration program, including incentives for highly educated people to come to the U.S. and a guest worker program; a pathway to adjusted status for those here illegally now; and special relief for the children of undocumented immigrants.”

    “The reality is that the government is not going to enforce the law effectively now against those who are here unlawfully,” Puzder wrote in 2013. The United States, Puzder reasoned, simply lacks “the will” to enforce U.S. immigration law:

    There are more than 11 million illegal immigrants in our country. Many have families, homes, jobs and children who are American citizens. We simply are not going to take them from their homes, put them in prisons, load them on buses and take them back over the border. Nor will we enact draconian measures that drive them from their homes or their jobs and force them to “self-deport.” As a nation, we lack both the will and the resources to implement such policies.

    More recently, Puzder has argued that “deportation should only be pursued when an illegal immigrant has committed a felony or [has] become a ‘public charge’.”

    However, President-elect Trump himself explained why only enforcing some aspects of U.S. immigration law would be unfair to American workers. During his immigration speech delivered in Phoenix, Arizona, Trump said:

    "Immigration law doesn’t exist just for the purpose of keeping out criminals. It exists to protect all aspects of American life – the worksite, the welfare office, the education system and much else. That is why immigration limits are established in the first place. If we only enforce the laws against crime, then we have an open border to the entire world.”"

    In his 2016 Wall Street Journal op-ed, Puzder also described himself as a “free trader” who “oppose[s] punitive tariffs.”

    Many have credited Trump’s pro-American worker stance on trade as part of the reason he was able to break through the left’s “blue wall” in states like Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.

    As MSNBC’s Chris Matthews explained on election night, Trump won, in large part, due by running against the Washington establishment’s position on trade and immigration:

    "The fact that we don’t have an immigration system that we enforce: business wants the cheap labor, Democrats want the jobs and the votes. Nobody’s gotten it together. In terms of trade… just drive through Michigan, drive through Wisconsin, and you’ll see places that are hollowed out…Trump said, ‘You know what, I think I can run against this stuff.’ … It was a legitimate campaign on those issue."

    It remains to be seen whether Puzder will abandon his former open borders positions on these issues and will take up Trump’s pro-American worker platform on trade and immigration, which won him the election.

    http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presid...rican-workers/

    I've seen you viciously attack folks for saying and doing less than what this man has being doing. I'm talking about things people may have done and said years ago. This man is still actively pushing for immigration amnesty. He has done or said nothing to show otherwise. Everything this man stands for is in opposition to what we stand for.
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    More recently, Puzder has argued that “deportation should only be pursued when an illegal immigrant has committed a felony or [has] become a ‘public charge’.”
    Well, this is good statement. My position is deport all 100% of them, but for a businessman from Southern California to say this, means he's not that far off our mark. He's a lawyer so he knows what the term "public charge" means. It means:

    A. For purposes of determining inadmissibility, “public charge” means an individual who is likely to become primarily dependent on the government for subsistence, as demonstrated by either the receipt of public cash assistance for income maintenance or institutionalization for long-term care at government expense.Sep 3, 2009
    https://www.uscis.gov/green-card/gre.../public-charge

    87% of illegal aliens are on welfare and thus public charges so can't be legalized. Puzder said he wants to deport the public charges plus the criminals. That's right up our alley isn't it? That gets US way down the road to our destination, seems to me. A Secretary of Labor who says if you're a criminal, on welfare and an illegal alien, you're out of our job market because you're out of our country. That will be a first, won't it?

    So I'm going to have to differ with you. I think Puzder is in alliance with what we stand for on illegal immigration. In fact his position on this as stated in your article puts him in more alliance than the positions of many through the years. Most ant-immigration organizations including our own and yours as recently as a few months ago, didn't want to deport illegal aliens but preferred self-deportation, where Puzder does and said so publicly.
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