Thread: Romney fading, Rohrabacher, Bolton rising for State as 'consensus package'

Can anyone find for us the names of those on Trump's transition team that are pushing for that open borders pro-amnesty jerk Mitt Romney on this?

W

He's an engineer by education from Texas, been with Exxon since 1975 and worked his way up to CEO. He's soon to retire so that's why they thought he might be interested. Department of State has a lot of organizational and financial issues (missing money) and he has the management experience of a very very large organization so this might also be a plus. He's a nice low key guy, devout Christian who attends church and bible study every week. I'm not saying he's better than others, just has a different background. HUGE. And in terms of the corporate business world, when you say CEO of ExxonMobil, you get tingles, because in our world, that's like The King.

Originally Posted by Judy

He's an engineer by education from Texas, been with Exxon since 1975 and worked his way up to CEO. He's soon to retire so that's why they thought he might be interested. Department of State has a lot of organizational and financial issues (missing money) and he has the management experience of a very very large organization so this might also be a plus. He's a nice low key guy, devout Christian who attends church and bible study every week. I'm not saying he's better than others, just has a different background. HUGE. And in terms of the corporate business world, when you say CEO of ExxonMobil, you get tingles, because in our world, that's like The King.

Thank you Judy.

Originally Posted by ALIPAC

Can anyone find for us the names of those on Trump's transition team that are pushing for that open borders pro-amnesty jerk Mitt Romney on this?

W

William, could it be that Donald Trump himself is doing this for some reason? I don't like it either. Gone on too long. Mitt Romney doesn't have any magic that would prioritize him for Secretary of State. Other fine choices that would put America first.

Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach

William, could it be that Donald Trump himself is doing this for some reason? I don't like it either. Gone on too long. Mitt Romney doesn't have any magic that would prioritize him for Secretary of State. Other fine choices that would put America first.

I don't have the answer, but it is a very interesting question.

BY TOMMY BEHNKE
10 HOURS AGO



The American people elected Donald Trump in part because of his success at exposing the hypocrisy of career politicians like Lyin’ Ted Cruz, Corrupt Kane, and Crooked Hillary. It’d be a shame if the president-elect turned into a textbook case study of the self-fulfilling prophecy by becoming a run-of-the-mill, doublespeak politician on his own merits.

For several weeks, it appeared that this would inevitably come true. With the media playing up hawkish defense figures like John Bolton, Rudy Giuliani, and Mitt Romney for his Secretary of State nomination, it seemed as if Trump might strike down one of his paramount campaign promises: put America first by stopping costly, unnecessary foreign interventions.

Today, however, things look differently. With the Trump camp reportedly in a civil war over the prospect of a Romney or Giuliani-headed State Department, reports now say that a dark-horse compromise candidate is rapidly gaining steam: Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA).

Recent rhetoric from Trump’s own mouth paints optimism for the potential Rohrabacher Secretary of State portrait. At a victory speech last Thursday, President-elect Trump echoed candidate Trump’s foreign policy views by proclaiming that his administration “will pursue a new foreign policy that finally learns from the mistakes of the past." He continued: "We will stop looking to topple regimes and overthrow governments, [because] remember: $6 trillion — $6 trillion in the Middle East. $6 trillion.”

One can only hope that Trump will not just talk the talk, but also walk the walk by nominating Rohrabacher, one of the only realist foreign policy voices included in his Secretary of State shortlist.

Rohrabacher has been on the Foreign Relations Committee for almost two decades. Throughout his tenure on the committee, he has understood that, as Trump says, “you can’t win by fighting two wars at one time.”

It’s why he admitted that the Iraq War was a big mistake. “Once President Bush decided to go into Iraq, I thought it was a mistake because we hadn’t finished the job in Afghanistan,” he said. Although Rohrabacher's Republican colleagues eventually swayed him into voting for the war, he was quick to fess up and call it a gross misjudgment on his part - something that fellow Iraq War supporters John Bolton, Mitt Romney, and Rudy Giuliani have still failed to do thirteen years later.

But Rohrabacher didn’t just stop there; he learned from his mistake and matured into one of the most non-interventionist voices in the halls of Congress. In 2007, he voted NO on redeploying US troops out of Iraq. Romney, Bolton, and Giuliani all supported keeping forces in there, wasting approximately $270 million per day as a result. According to the American Friends Service Committee, that money could have instead bought homes for almost 6,500 families, provided health care for 423,529 children, or outfitted 1.27 million homes with renewable electricity.

Four years later, Rohrabacher voted to ban armed forces in Libya without congressional approval - a laudable move considering that Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution states that Congress alone can declare war. The Orange County Republican was quick to see that the war was not a just one; we spent $1 billion of our own tax dollars under the pretext of humanitarian intervention, but instead created further chaos by propping up radical jihadists. Trump now concurs with Rohrabacher on Libya, while Romney and Bolton were outspoken supporters of the U.S. invasion.

Rohrabacher then followed his non-interventionist streak by completely bashing President Obama’s reckless war in Syria. He said that apologists for the intervention “should have learned [their] lesson in Iraq,” meaning that when you try to stop human rights abuses abroad with military strikes, you end up killing thousands of Americans and wasting scores of tax dollars, all while harming the cause you intended to help.

Rohrabacher was correct: we should have put America first by focusing on domestic issues and refraining from intervening, because getting involved did nothing but increase ISIS’s prevalence in the region. Donald Trump agrees, while Romney and Giuliani both supported arming the Syrian rebels.

Last week, Rohrabacher said that he is “very willing” to be Trump’s Secretary of State:

"[I am] excited about what Donald Trump stands for, and how he’s going to take American policy and make it … aimed at not some globalist theory of making the whole world better, but, instead, based on something that’s going to be good for the security of the people of the United States.”

Trump is quick to point out that as a result of Bush and Obama’s neoconservative foreign policy, “we’ve spent $6 trillion in the Middle East,” “haven’t won anything,” and “lost thousands of lives.” If he wants to make bad on his campaign promises by pleasing special interests and continuing with the same, ineffective policies of the past, then he has his pick from a wide array of hawkish conservative figures.

But if Trump truly wants to drain the swamp, put America first, and work with someone who thinks like him, then his choice for Secretary of State is abundantly clear. Here’s to hoping that the president-elect's actions will match up with his rhetoric. The fate of our nation's security depends on it.

http://ijr.com/opinion/2016/12/26238...f-state-trump/

Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach

William, could it be that Donald Trump himself is doing this for some reason? I don't like it either. Gone on too long. Mitt Romney doesn't have any magic that would prioritize him for Secretary of State. Other fine choices that would put America first.

No, Mitt called Trump up to congratulate him and begged for the job, so Trump wants to be nice to him because he's part of that NeverTrumper Crazy Crowd, he's from Utah, which is an important state, and Romney has a good reputation internationally because of how well he did managing the Olympics, so Trump is just being nice and showing the world he carefully considered Romney for a post Romney wants. AND, if Mitt hadn't exposed this horrible side of himself, he would have at one time been a reasonable candidate for the position, but once you've gone off the rails as far as Mitt did, any real hope of being in this Administration pooted and flew out the window, pardon the expression.

Judy wrote:

No, Mitt called Trump up to congratulate him and begged for the job, so Trump wants to be nice to him because he's part of that NeverTrumper Crazy Crowd, he's from Utah, which is an important state, and Romney has a good reputation internationally because of how well he did managing the Olympics, so Trump is just being nice and showing the world he carefully considered Romney for a post Romney wants.

Fact or speculation? If it's a fact, I'd be interested in reading the article it came from (link please).

Originally Posted by MW

Judy wrote:



Fact or speculation? If it's a fact, I'd be interested in reading the article it came from (link please).

Google is your friend!!

Originally Posted by Judy

Google is your friend!!

Okay, then I guess it's safe to assume it's speculation. Thank you.