Thread: Amnesty Locks Democrats in Power-courtesy of SEIU

I would humbly "like to suggest" watching the Glenn Beck show to see how our FREEDOM IS BEING HI-JACKED by illegal aliens and paroled felons with ACORN at the helm!!

Stop the shell game and the rampant corruption in our government!

seriously, game on guys. Big Trouble in River City is just around the corner.

WE MUST S.T.O.P. Amnesty.

We have to bail ourselves out of this one folks. the clock is ticking.

Corporate America is in the process of creating the first slave class since The Civil War. (they're known to us as illegals) and CORP AMER is waving them in.

THIS PROGRESSIVE DESTRUCTION OF OUR REPUBLIC MUST CEASE AND DESIST! THERE IS NO MIDDLE GROUND. NOT FOR US ANYWAY.

NO NEED TO WAIT TILL UHC BANKRUPTS US.

p.s. Acorn is back in business folks.

p.s.s. sooner or later we're gonna have to discuss the 800 pound Gorilla in the room.

Wayneman - No offense, but most ALIPACers have been making the points Glenn Beck made on his show today long before Beck did. Today is the most I've ever heard Beck talk about illegal immigration. Prior to this I've only heard him occasionally mention it in passing. I'm glad if he's finally coming around to focusing more on the profound seriousness of the problem.

Originally Posted by builditnow

Wayneman - No offense, but most ALIPACers have been making the points Glenn Beck made on his show today long before Beck did. Today is the most I've ever heard Beck talk about illegal immigration. Prior to this I've only heard him occasionally mention it in passing. I'm glad if he's finally coming around to focusing more on the profound seriousness of the problem.

I can absolutely see your point. i have been reading his books and can assure you he does not think " Amnesty of any sort is good idea." can't put it any better than that.

p.s. no offense taken. i just have an awful sense that we are rapidly running of time. There are millions of "Us" still busy keeping up with the Kardashions while 'They" have already assembled an army on the field. They have been deploying troops (illegals) in this war for decades. we are a little behind the curve on this deal and i sense this "issue" is closer than we would like to think especially since our leaders who should be leading this fight have actually gone over to the enemy.

Remember what Vince Lombardi once said, "If your on time, you're late!

i am on your side.

No doubt about it. We need to encourage the same strategy the states are using against health care reform mandates to amnesty and illegal immigration. The states need to apply the same logic to the federal government's attempt to flood their states with unwanted illegal population that treads on the rights of the citizens of the states. The states need to pass a simple law that mandates in order to be a legal resident of their state the person or their parents must have entered the country legally and left when or before permission to be in our country terminated. Period.

That resolves automatic birthright citizenship, because the states decide this. That resolves amnesty, because the states don't have to abide a federal amnesty. That resolves guest worker permits for illegal aliens, because the states don't have to accept an illegal alien into their state handed a permit by the federal government. That resolves the dispute between who can or can not arrest, detain and deport illegal aliens, because the states can deport illegal aliens.

Excessive legal immigration can be dealt with similarly but separately, because no legal immigration should occur without the consent of the states.

Trade Adjustment Act, Fast-Track Trade Authority and Free Trade Treason can be dealt with the same way. Our federal government has no authority whatsoever to pass federal laws or use federal funds to relocate or aid in the relocation of any job out of any state to any other state let alone to a foreign country. On what possible constitutional basis can the federal government hold the hands of corporations leaving our states, abandoning our towns, communities, and properties leaving a trail of tears, unemployment, vacancy, despair and heartbreak in the laps of the people of the states while using federal laws and treason treaties to aid and abet it and federal funds to help underwrite it? There is no constitutional authority for any law or appropriation that aids the economic destruction of the people of the united states. None. Nada. Zero. Zip. It's plain and simple treason by the federal government against the people of the states.

Industries are free to leave, but not under an international agreement of any kind and not on the wings of federal funds cleaning up their mess post-departure and then allowing our money to leave our states when these traitors set up shop in Mexico and China and back-haul their goods into our market free of charge per those same treason treaties.

Wake Up States! You've lost all your industries because you stood there like a bunch of court jesters waving trillions of dollars of manufacturing investment good-bye with hardly a blink with your hands-out to the federal government for a few million of clean-up money instead of telling the federal government that no goods will enter your state manufactured offshore by the companies who left your state and abandoned your workers, suppliers, vendors and properties.

Oh yes, I know you thought you'd have high rise office buildings in a "service sector" instead of all those smoke-stacks. Well, how did that line of crap work out for you? Oh? You didn't know that a "service sector" rides on the back of your manufacturing base? Well, why didn't you ask your trained industrial development professionals about that? Any of us could told you. Oh wait! We did, but you didn't listen.

Well, I bet you're listening now.

Originally Posted by Judy

No doubt about it. We need to encourage the same strategy the states are using against health care reform mandates to amnesty and illegal immigration. The states need to apply the same logic to the federal government's attempt to flood their states with unwanted illegal population that treads on the rights of the citizens of the states. The states need to pass a simple law that mandates in order to be a legal resident of their state the person or their parents must have entered the country legally and left when or before permission to be in our country terminated. Period.

That resolves automatic birthright citizenship, because the states decide this. That resolves amnesty, because the states don't have to abide a federal amnesty. That resolves guest worker permits for illegal aliens, because the states don't have to accept an illegal alien into their state handed a permit by the federal government. That resolves the dispute between who can or can not arrest, detain and deport illegal aliens, because the states can deport illegal aliens.

Excessive legal immigration can be dealt with similarly but separately, because no legal immigration should occur without the consent of the states.

Trade Adjustment Act, Fast-Track Trade Authority and Free Trade Treason can be dealt with the same way. Our federal government has no authority whatsoever to pass federal laws or use federal funds to relocate or aid in the relocation of any job out of any state to any other state let alone to a foreign country. On what possible constitutional basis can the federal government hold the hands of corporations leaving our states, abandoning our towns, communities, and properties leaving a trail of tears, unemployment, vacancy, despair and heartbreak in the laps of the people of the states while using federal laws and treason treaties to aid and abet it and federal funds to help underwrite it? There is no constitutional authority for any law or appropriation that aids the economic destruction of the people of the united states. None. Nada. Zero. Zip. It's plain and simple treason by the federal government against the people of the states.

Industries are free to leave, but not under an international agreement of any kind and not on the wings of federal funds cleaning up their mess post-departure and then allowing our money to leave our states when these traitors set up shop in Mexico and China and back-haul their goods into our market free of charge per those same treason treaties.

Wake Up States! You've lost all your industries because you stood there like a bunch of court jesters waving trillions of dollars of manufacturing investment good-bye with hardly a blink with your hands-out to the federal government for a few million of clean-up money instead of telling the federal government that no goods will enter your state manufactured offshore by the companies who left your state and abandoned your workers, suppliers, vendors and properties.

Oh yes, I know you were a bunch of hick egg-heads who thought you'd have high rise office building in a "service sector" instead of all those smoke-stacks. Well, how did that line of crap work out for you? Oh? You didn't know that a "service sector" rides on the back of your manufacturing base? Well, why didn't you ask your trained industrial development professionals about that? Any of us could told you. Oh wait! We did, but you didn't listen.

Well, I bet you're listening now.

DARN TOOTIN. YOU ALWAYS SEEM TO TAKE THE WORDS OUTTA MY MOUTH.

I WOULD RATHER OVER-COMPENSATE THAN UNDER-COMPENSATE.

Remember Pearl Harbor? caught us by surprise. 9/11, ditto.

Remember President Herbert Hoover saying, "Prosperity is just around the corner!" well, he missed that by a mile. point is our "depth perception of what's commonly referred to as a Clear and Present Danger is not always foolproof... housing crash anybody?

"a lot of us spoke of these things?" EXCELLENT!. now, how about the rest of us? i myself (being the all knowing individual that i am) didn't see the seriousness of the problem till maybe six months ago, AND I LIVE IN CALIFORNIA AKA GROUND ZERO (sorry about that). Just because we are all on the cutting edge doesn't mean that it's enough to turn the corner.

i realize i'm mostly preaching to the choir and would sometimes rather be watching Glenn Close kicking but. but anything i may have said that motivates even ONE person to heave to, will allow to me feel that i may have played a small part in saving the world. can you blame me?

thanks for letting me share.

Originally Posted by wayneman

Originally Posted by Judy

No doubt about it. We need to encourage the same strategy the states are using against health care reform mandates to amnesty and illegal immigration. The states need to apply the same logic to the federal government's attempt to flood their states with unwanted illegal population that treads on the rights of the citizens of the states. The states need to pass a simple law that mandates in order to be a legal resident of their state the person or their parents must have entered the country legally and left when or before permission to be in our country terminated. Period.

That resolves automatic birthright citizenship, because the states decide this. That resolves amnesty, because the states don't have to abide a federal amnesty. That resolves guest worker permits for illegal aliens, because the states don't have to accept an illegal alien into their state handed a permit by the federal government. That resolves the dispute between who can or can not arrest, detain and deport illegal aliens, because the states can deport illegal aliens.

Excessive legal immigration can be dealt with similarly but separately, because no legal immigration should occur without the consent of the states.

Trade Adjustment Act, Fast-Track Trade Authority and Free Trade Treason can be dealt with the same way. Our federal government has no authority whatsoever to pass federal laws or use federal funds to relocate or aid in the relocation of any job out of any state to any other state let alone to a foreign country. On what possible constitutional basis can the federal government hold the hands of corporations leaving our states, abandoning our towns, communities, and properties leaving a trail of tears, unemployment, vacancy, despair and heartbreak in the laps of the people of the states while using federal laws and treason treaties to aid and abet it and federal funds to help underwrite it? There is no constitutional authority for any law or appropriation that aids the economic destruction of the people of the united states. None. Nada. Zero. Zip. It's plain and simple treason by the federal government against the people of the states.

Industries are free to leave, but not under an international agreement of any kind and not on the wings of federal funds cleaning up their mess post-departure and then allowing our money to leave our states when these traitors set up shop in Mexico and China and back-haul their goods into our market free of charge per those same treason treaties.

Wake Up States! You've lost all your industries because you stood there like a bunch of court jesters waving trillions of dollars of manufacturing investment good-bye with hardly a blink with your hands-out to the federal government for a few million of clean-up money instead of telling the federal government that no goods will enter your state manufactured offshore by the companies who left your state and abandoned your workers, suppliers, vendors and properties.

Oh yes, I know you were a bunch of hick egg-heads who thought you'd have high rise office building in a "service sector" instead of all those smoke-stacks. Well, how did that line of crap work out for you? Oh? You didn't know that a "service sector" rides on the back of your manufacturing base? Well, why didn't you ask your trained industrial development professionals about that? Any of us could told you. Oh wait! We did, but you didn't listen.

Well, I bet you're listening now.

DARN TOOTIN. YOU ALWAYS SEEM TO TAKE THE WORDS OUTTA MY MOUTH.

I WOULD RATHER OVER-COMPENSATE THAN UNDER-COMPENSATE.

Remember Pearl Harbor? caught us by surprise. 9/11, ditto.

Remember President Herbert Hoover saying, "Prosperity is just around the corner!" well, he missed that by a mile. point is our "depth perception of what's commonly referred to as a Clear and Present Danger is not always foolproof... housing crash anybody?

"a lot of us spoke of these things?" EXCELLENT!. now, how about the rest of us? i myself (being the all knowing individual that i am) didn't see the seriousness of the problem till maybe six months ago, AND I LIVE IN CALIFORNIA AKA GROUND ZERO (sorry about that). Just because we are all on the cutting edge doesn't mean that it's enough to turn the corner.

i realize i'm mostly preaching to the choir and would sometimes rather be watching Glenn Close kicking but. but anything i may have said that motivates even ONE person to heave to, will allow to me feel that i may have played a small part in saving the world. can you blame me?

thanks for letting me share.

You're most welcome. And believe me, every word posted on this forum is read by someone who didn't know something yesterday. Look at the number of "members" on the board this minute. 8. Look at the number of guests on the board this minute. 217. At 4 am in the morning EST. 1 am your time. Every day there's someone new reading this forum. Every day there's a newspaper reporter, a company market research team, a political consultant, someone from Congress, someone from the states, someone from a town council or a county commission, a law enforcement officer, the political parties, media, probably someone from Glenn Beck's show, writers, authors, educators, economists ... all types of people read this forum. Everyone makes a difference with every word they post, and you will too.

Great point Judy. Unfortunately, many of those sleepless people on this forum are here because they can't sleep since they lost their jobs and have no chance of securing another.

These problems with outsourcing, illegal invasion and corporate treason has been going on since the reign of Bush I. Unfortunately, the traitors have had a free ride with our media influence, and even conservative talk radio failed to discuss the dangers of corporate facism and our political corruption in both parties.

The election was rigged by running someone as offensive as John McCain for president. How was this jerk even considered let alone elected? If we had any control of our country, the RNC would have refused to back him and found someone better. The RNC did as much to elect Obama and keep his sorry fellow Dems in power as the communists behind the media.

I no longer have faith in our election system. I don't even get a candidate to vote for that I even believe in, and I'm talking even locally. We have our county commission running unopposed, even though illegals were found working on the new courthouse one block from their office, which is against the law here.

Originally Posted by GaPatriot

Great point Judy. Unfortunately, many of those sleepless people on this forum are here because they can't sleep since they lost their jobs and have no chance of securing another.

These problems with outsourcing, illegal invasion and corporate treason has been going on since the reign of Bush I. Unfortunately, the traitors have had a free ride with our media influence, and even conservative talk radio failed to discuss the dangers of corporate facism and our political corruption in both parties.

The election was rigged by running someone as offensive as John McCain for president. How was this jerk even considered let alone elected? If we had any control of our country, the RNC would have refused to back him and found someone better. The RNC did as much to elect Obama and keep his sorry fellow Dems in power as the communists behind the media.

I no longer have faith in our election system. I don't even get a candidate to vote for that I even believe in, and I'm talking even locally. We have our county commission running unopposed, even though illegals were found working on the new courthouse one block from their office, which is against the law here.

I know.

But you must have faith in your fellow Americans. Every election matters, every candidate matters, every seat matters, every citizen matters, every voter matters. Our country is in a clusterfrack. It will take a while to re-educate and re-truth our citizenry and even longer to reverse the policies that caused this disaster. But we will GAPatriot. We will lose some battles, but we will learn from those and use the experience to improve for our next ones.

Right now we have 41 US Senators, enough to block immigration reform in the Senate. Unfortunately, at least 2 of those we can't count on. McCain and Graham. So we need 2 Blue Dog Democrats to help US until January when hopefully we'll have 3 or 4 more Republicans for a clear block.

Look how close the health care reform vote was. All we need are 10 seats to block immigration reform in the House. We need 40or 41 seats to change majority control, but Americans are more united than it seems on the surface. Remember the CAFTA vote? 215 to 217.

Republicans must reach out to Blue Dog Democrats as well as do a better job of doing our job. We must stay away from personal agendas that offend people who might otherwise stand and fight with US on the vital issues of our country. People using sanctity of life and sanctity of marriage issues to manipulate our elections are causing tremendous harm to our country because they divide our citizens which empowers our enemies. I hope with all my heart people realize this and realize it in time for the 2010 primaries and General Election.

To save our country, all Americans must unite against government policies that steal our jobs, drain our money supply, abuse our trade and rob our earnings and incomes and make us dependent on foreign countries and foreign governments.

And we will. I'm absolutely confident of that. Americans know by their guts and instincts what must be done. All we need to do is help them with the details.

[quote="GaPatriot"]Great point Judy. Unfortunately, many of those sleepless people on this forum are here because they can't sleep since they lost their jobs and have no chance of securing another.


Things aren't that bad. you can always get a job with the IRS or selling Power Chairs.

just kidding folks. but seriously...

thoughts from the right wing lunatic fringe.

p.s.- just heard on TV that Social Security is now spending more than it's takes in. aren't you glad that when your SS checks stop clearing you can get FREE THERAPY thanks to UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE?

We have more traitors than McCain and Graham. Both our senators here in GA, always masquarading as conservative Republicans I might add, helped write the McCain/Kennedy treason bill. A picture was released with them all smiling and happy. Our traitors are in corporate pockets and one of them, Chambliss, on the agriculture committee and in the pocket of the big south GA farmers, his son is a lobbyist for them. The other, Isakson, owns a real estate company employing his children and of course he came up with the tax subsidy for - you guessed it - buying a house. So, which industries employ illegals more than home building and farming?

Isakson is running again and these so-called conservatives are helping him, glad handing, etc. He received a royal reception at the Christian Alliance forum. What part of Christian applies to these evil people? I thought for sure I would be struck by lightning being in the building.

I have been actively working against illegal immigration for 5 years. We have protested all over, been called vile names and given the finger by passers by. Last year, we again had a float in the 4th of July parade. The response by watchers was amazing this time. People applauded, gave us the thumbs up, people came running up who lost their jobs and even gave us contact names. Our float just said Hire Americans. Now, our economy has proven that illegal immigration is extremely destructive in so many ways, and the numbers at least here in my state have increased so expotentially that the burden is overwhelming.

I fear that the extent of the invasion is so under reported that this cannot be reversed. I can tell from the illegals themselves that they will not accept mass deportations, they will not allow less benefits and there does not seem the will of most people to adhere strict enforcement of our border or to protect our sovereignty and culture. We have become a two class society with special protections for lawbreakers.