Thread: Senate on CSpan2: Immigration Debate Ramps Up

You betcha portaltx!

That's why I'm here doing it today...

Originally Posted by duece212

Originally Posted by PhredE

MW: She is not supporting it!!!

(I don't like here stance about legalization - it IS amnesty - but she might want to vote down the entire bill should this provision hang around)...

She sounds middle of the road, supports amnesty, but does not support a lame guest worker program. Hard to decide on her, do you take it as a partial win or a partial loss?

Caution drunkard at the podium, get ready for crap.

Answer: to early to tell - but we do know we have leverage when she is strongly opposed to GW programs. (IMHO)

Re: Kennedy - if he offers you a ride, just 'say no'.

Originally Posted by PhredE

Re: Kennedy - if he offers you a ride, just 'say no'.

Or wear a ski vest!

Kennedy speaking about Dorgan Amendment - eliminates 400k GWs...

1. We have tough Border Security proposals.

2. Important Int. Enforcement proposals. (talks about 1986 act...)

3. Has some mechanism to slow CM (chain mig.)

4. Does include GW provision. (guest-worker)

5. Assurance to 12 IAs - will be 'safe and secure' (mentions New Bedford raid!!!)

6. Mentions backlog of processing at CIS

7. Has AgJobs bill -

8. DREAM ACT (GRRRR!) - Children get help to get to college, etc {sob}


...One of provisions is about GWs from Dorgan:

We believe, as Gov. Napolitano has pointed out (screaming) you can build a fence 49th high, they 'll find a ladder 50ft.

One way or the other, they will come in. etc.
(Blah, blah).

Who are these people?

(Talks about steps employers have to do to 'get a GW'.)
Prevailing wage, advertisement, etc.

Sen. Kennedy is a blubbering idiot. Can you believe he's actually supporting Bush's guest-worker program? Guess he's trying to keep this shamnesty bill together.

Why all the theatrics and yelling Whale boy, do you think we're deaf or something?

Big Rant about treatment of workers at New Bedford plant (that was raided)
{sob}

Criticizing Dorgan for supporting 'more of the same' - complaining about current 'exploitation' of workers at present.

Quoting stats. about Meatpacking injuries by IAs

Originally Posted by MW

Sen. Kennedy is a blubbering idiot. Can you believe he's actually supporting Bush's guest-worker program? Guess he's trying to keep this shamnesty bill together.

Why all the theatrics and yelling Whale boy, do you think we're deaf or something?

I've found that those with the weaker argument usually raise volume to try and gain more effect. Another form of smoke and mirrors.

Kennedy talks so much about protecting the illegal alien worker, what about the compassion for U.S. citizen and legal workers?

We believe, as Gov. Napolitano has pointed out (screaming) you can build a fence 49th high, they 'll find a ladder 50ft.

Then pluck them out of the sky with a helicopter!
What is with this defeatist attitude?

If there were 20 million Russians landing on our shores in boats, would we invite them in for tea?

Yeesh!

Originally Posted by PhredE

Transcriber takes needed break - good time, eh?

Dude (As my son would say) YOU ROCK!!!!

re meatpacking Sanders said wages have fallen 24% since the illegal invasion. That I believe. Americans can no longer live on $6-$8 per hr.

Graham's on now right before supper.