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    Senators Voting on Summary of 1000 Page Bill! NO JOKE!!!

    Border Security and Immigration Reform Act of 2007

    Title I
    Title I requires the Secretary of Homeland Security to certify that the triggers are met before the Title IV (Guest Worker) and Title VI (Z visa ) programs can begin, with the exception of probationary status for Z workers and the programs for agricultural workers.

    • Triggers include:
    o 18,000 (CBP) Border Patrol hired
    o Construction of 200 miles of vehicle barriers and 370 miles of fencing
    o 70 ground-based radar and camera towers along the southern border
    o Deployment of 4 Unmanned Aerial Vehicles and supporting systems
    o The ending of catch-and-release
    o Resources to detain up to 27,500 aliens per day on an annual basis
    o The use of secure and effective identification tools to prevent unauthorized work.
    o The receiving and processing and adjudicating of applications for Z status.

    • Title I also includes authorities and resources to augment border security including:
    o physical infrastructure along the border
    o additional field and investigative agents
    o comprehensive plans and studies of the border region
    o revisions to law enforcement techniques and enhanced authorities.

    Title II
    Title II provides for interior enforcement of immigration laws.

    • The stiffening of laws and penalties relate to:
    o the detention of criminal aliens
    o the definition of aggravated felony
    o gang violence
    o passport, visa, and immigration fraud, including marriage fraud

    • Other provisions include language regarding:
    o Increased penalties for illegal entry and reentry
    o encouraging aliens to depart voluntarily
    o prohibiting aliens from possessing firearms
    o alternatives to detention
    o state and local law enforcement reimbursement and training
    o the streamlining of background checks for immigration status


    Title III
    Title III addresses workplace enforcement by increasing penalties, revising and making mandatory a system of electronic employment verification, and promoting information sharing.

    • This Title designs a worksite enforcement system that relies on electronic employment verification and a reduced list of documents that may be presented to employers to prove identity and work eligibility.
    o Also increases penalties significantly over current law for unlawful hiring, employment, and recordkeeping violations.

    • Verification of employees: As of the date of enactment, employers in national security-related industries, industries involving critical infrastructure, and federal contractors may be required to electronically verify employees, including new hires and/or current employees, with additional employers or industries added after 6 months.
    o All employers would be required to electronically verify new hires within 18 months of enactment, or on the date on which the Secretary certifies that the system is operational.
    o Once the system is implemented, all employers would be required to verify all current employees within by 3 years after enactment.

    • Structure of the EEVS: After the date of hire but no later than the first day of employment, the employer must transmit to the EEVS via the Internet the data that the employer has taken from the worker’s identity and work eligibility documents.

    • Inconclusive determinations: Where the EEVS cannot conclusively determine the status of a worker’s eligibility, a further action notice is issued and the individual must contact the appropriate federal or state agency to initiate resolution of status and the individual continues to work while the agency resolves his or her status.

    • Final nonconfirmation: If the employer has received a final non-confirmation regarding an individual, the employer must terminate the employment of the individual, unless the individual files an administrative appeal of a final non-confirmation notice within 15 days.

    • Data and Information Sharing: The Commissioner of Social Security must information to the Secretary of DHS regarding data contained within the Social Security database as in relates to employment verification.

    • Fraud and tamper resistant social security cards: Not later than 180 days after date of enactment, the Commissioner is required to begin work to administer and issue fraud-resistant, tamper-resistant Social Security cards.

    Title IV
    Title IV establishes a new temporary Y worker program to address future labor needs of temporary foreign workers and discourage future illegal employment of undocumented individuals. The title also includes measures to protect the rights of U.S. and foreign workers and prevent the U.S. employer from abusing the program.

    • Structure of new visa programs: This title creates a new future temporary worker program for workers who are coming to the U.S. to perform temporary job that the U.S. employer is unable to fill. It provides for:
    o non-seasonal Y temporary worker (Y-1 visa)
    o seasonal temporary worker
     Y-2A for agricultural workers, sheepherder, goat herders, and dairy workers
     Y-2B for non-agricultural workers; and
    o their spouses and minor children (Y-3 visa).

    • Matching Willing Workers with Willing Employers: All Y workers must be matched to a “willing employers

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    So does that mean that the ones who wrote it (a select few) are the only ones who really know and understand what the entire bill contains? That would explain a lot.

    If you go to www.congress.org, there is a section that rates the members of the senate and house in order of how powerful they are. I'm guessing that the "top 10" are the ones who really know what's going on, and the rest are yes men/women?
    "Calling an illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited house guest."

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    I can't believe ANYONE with any common sense could even say they could vote on a piece of legislation until they read it, understand it and really believe in it.
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    Very interesting Ollie, but wouldn't it be simpler to just vote on a very short "Protect our Borders" bill with adequate money appropriated for implementation and no pork attached? (Consideration given of course for what they have left undone from last year's bill) While the first bill is being implemented, they could then draft a new resolution on criminal penalties for employers of illegal aliens including jail time along with their fines (also with no pork attached)! Coming in at third place would be the bill on deportation of illegals and something akin to "enemy combatant" status for those committing serious crimes against US citizens during their unwelcome and illegal visit with us (can you say, "no pork attached" again?)!This bill could also include mandatory forced labor building that expensive wall we need during their incarceration! A forth bill (if necessary ) could address alligator over-population in the southern US and relocation of said alligators to the Rio Grande River where they could assist Border Patrol Operations. Said alligators would of course require political immunity or be recognized as joint citizens because of their short tempers and bad table manners! After the recent fires in and around the Everglades I imagine they would be willing to work for food!

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    Addendum to above post:
    We could bypass all four of the above bills and simply send several of the key legislators on a "fact-finding" junket to the Everglades!

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    thanks Oliver


    So does that mean that the ones who wrote it (a select few) are the only ones who really know and understand what the entire bill contains? That would explain a lot.
    Disillusioned, I hate to tell you this but most if not all of the bills are no longer written by those we elect. They are written by corporation lawyers and submitted to the Congress for the "rubber stamp" so as to appear to be following the Constitutional requirements.

    Sorry bet that added to the meaning of your nic.
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    this looks awfully familiar to 1348 from the last congress.
    if this is the case, i was told this is not the bill cuz as of Friday it was
    still being written... this stuff i was told, was introduced LAST YEAR

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesw62
    this looks awfully familiar to 1348 from the last congress.
    if this is the case, i was told this is not the bill cuz as of Friday it was
    still being written... this stuff i was told, was introduced LAST YEAR
    JAMES
    this is ONLY the SUMMARY of this slop they're calling 'immigration' ......

    THIS is what they expect senators to VOTE ON!! A 'summary!'

    Btw: all this so-called legislation is similar..........it's not IMMIGRATION, it's AMNESTY AND OPEN BORDERS/ NAU crap!
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    Not much about enforcement. Sounds so much like 1986 Amnesty.

    18,000 (CBP) Border Patrol hired
    Over how many years? Why not Hire some ICE agents to deal with the criminals that are already here?

    70 ground-based radar and camera towers
    Wag the Dog. No cameras, just towers.

    Construction of 200 miles of vehicle barriers and 370 miles of fencing
    Not close to enough!!!!!!! No funding either.
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    Construction of 200 miles of vehicle barriers and 370 miles of fencing
    There's something VERY SPECIAL about VEHICLE BARRIERS.........they can move them as soon as the BORDERS OPEN UP, lol!

    Not permanent - no fuss no muss. Drive those babies right back to their garage
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