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01-07-2008, 01:58 PM #21These figures look good for Arizona because so many Californians who have the financial capability to flee have been going to Arizona! THIS IS NO SMALL SECRET!! IT'S BEEN ALL OVER THE BUSINESS AND REAL ESTATE NEWS. This is a trend that has been going on for several years and has been encouraged by rapidly rising real estate values, too.And, the trends for HIJs are every bit as good as the absolute numbers. Not only are gross state product, personal income, per capita personal income, disposable income, per capita disposable income, median household income and per capita median personal income higher than in other states, but they have been growing at faster rates between 1999 and 2006 than in other states.
The bloom is off the rose, now, and real estate will most likely implode as any bubble must. Will writers like Chavez blame the new law for this inevitability?"Men of low degree are vanity, Men of high degree are a lie. " David
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01-07-2008, 03:03 PM #22
I live in Phoenix, I have called in complaints. Facts are that the law is still pretty new, people are still finding out how you file a complaint & how you follow up on it.
Hey at least we GOT A LAW PASSED!
It will take time for things to get started. I suspect that it will be Feb or March before the word is out on how the law will work, how you report & what is going to be done.
I can say this, the day labor concentrations have dropped by about 30% at the Hang outs near where I live, you read into that what you want.
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01-07-2008, 03:24 PM #23
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The law is passed - that is what matters.
I suspect that many of our victories will be celebrated by silence: silence in the media, silence in the government buildings, silence in the press releases, and new silence on the lawful streets of America. And that's alright, because it is our victory."We have decided man doesn't need a backbone any more; to have one is old-fashioned. Someday we're going to slip it back on." - William Faulkner
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01-07-2008, 05:27 PM #24Senior Member
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This is nothing but crap-BS.
If illegal immigration is good, then why are amaericans paychecks down? Why are our property taxes going up to fund the huge influx of illegals?
Why are the hospitals going broke? Why is crime rampent in the cities with large numbers of illegals? Why are billions of American tax payer dollars being spent aiding and abetting illegal immigration?
There is no way crime can be down if criminals move in, and anyone here illegally is a criminal. The fact is, The author of this article just refuses to admitt the law have been broken. What a wind bag.
As I was surfing online last night I came accross hundreds of orginizations from all over the nation as well as the world calling for amnesty. These groups are probably in the thousands. They are from just about every nationality in the world. The illegal immigrants from all over the world are getting funds from the United States Tax coffers which should be illegal, especially money in the forms of grants that always seem to bash the American way of life and laws even if the grant is totally unrelated. The law should be, if any grant money is used to bash, trash or change the American law or lifestyle then the money will simply be pulled and the balance will be owed and if the propaganda they produced off such government funds provokes, creates unstability, causes racial tensions or any kind of other derogratory begavior including civil disobedience, they shall be deported! There are every kind of group yopu could imagine. Like the chinese american, the korean american, the north korean, the south african american group. It just boggled my mind, and you can have google translate the foreign language websites so you can read what they say. Basicly what most of them say is they want and should have the best of everything, they think America should cater to their every need and they want America to be like their country, but with a different leader, one of their choosing. These groups want more and more everyday. They constantly scream about racism but the fact is, their more racist than we ever were. I have never read such lack of appreciation for them being here. The websites I read, seemed to imply the orginazations leaders were legal imigrants but they all screamed about wanting everybody and anybody to come here if they want. We are surely under attack and nobody in govco wants to talk about it but a very, very few. Their stategy is, just ignore it and it will go away or people will get so tired of the corruption they will take what ever law they can get to get some sort of stability rather than none. This is simply the biggest criminal and corrupt act that the US government has ever seen, even bigger than the IRAQ war because more Americans have died at the hands of this illegal invasion than in IRAQ. If this were any other issue, the lawyers would be all over this, but because its PC and the lawyers are helpless against the government. Its a choice to let illegal immigration go on, not a phenomenon.
John McCain, you can spend your whole fortune and lifetime saying that we should give Amnesty to the illegals, but it won't make it true! You sir, are a loser!
What we are saying by giving Amnesty to the law breakers is it's ok to get here by whatever means, stay here by whatever means, make money by whatever means and what it does is set the stage for the next wave of illegals to come in, which is just what the employers want. Once we say, it ain't so bad if you came here illegally (thats why we gave you amnesty) then obviously if we can let them stay we must need more or more wouldn't be coming, thus it turns into a slave economy because we will soon have cheaper and cheaper workers coming here. Next thing you know they will be bringing in Chinese Nationals by NAFTA super hiway in by the Trailer load to work at the chinese companies they are buying up. And if we say no, they just close it or move it to china, all in spite of us. This is the problem with governments mixing financials with other foriegn governments and international corporations. This is why the deficit is so crucial to America, when we have to borrow vast sums of money from other countries we allow them into all our markets, an thus into Americans homes and financial concerns.
It's just wrong!
Good Day!Unless we get those criminals & make them pay for what they have done to our country and the lawlessness they have sponsored, we are just another Mexico ourselves!
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01-07-2008, 09:07 PM #25
Bravo Chex5........BRAVO!
I wish I had the ability to put it as succinctly as you just just have. Every point, spot on.


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