Thread: Support Tancredo/Hunter-Please call Dobson!

James Dobson (leader of Focus on the Family) is talking about running a 3rd party conservative candidate - that would split the party.

Please email/call him and ask him to support Duncan Hunter or Tom Tancredo. They are already in the race, conservative, and there's still time to bump them up to Tier 1 with the help of people like Dobson.

Email form - http://family.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/fami ... _lva=14190

Toll-free phone number is (800) A-FAMILY (232-6459).

Christian right leader writes off Giuliani

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Religious conservative leader James Dobson will sit out the 2008 presidential election if former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani is the Republican presidential nominee, he wrote Thursday in an online column.

In a piece published on the conservative Web site WorldNetDaily, Dobson wrote that Giuliani's support for abortion rights and civil unions for homosexuals, as well as the former mayor's two divorces, were a deal-breaker for him.

"I cannot, and will not, vote for Rudy Giuliani in 2008. It is an irrevocable decision," he wrote.

"If given a Hobson's -- Dobson's? -- choice between him and Senators Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama, I will either cast my ballot for an also-ran -- or if worse comes to worst, not vote in a presidential election for the first time in my adult life. My conscience and my moral convictions will allow me to do nothing else."

Dobson, 71, is the founder and chairman of Colorado-based Focus on the Family, but said he was writing as "a private citizen and not on behalf of any organization or party."

Dobson's daily radio broadcast can be heard on more than 1,000 radio stations and is listened to by 3.4 million listeners each week, according to Nima Reza, a spokesman for Focus on the Family.

He endorsed President Bush in 2004, the first time he endorsed a presidential candidate.

Dobson attacked Giuliani for publicly saying he hates abortion but supports a woman's right to have one. Giuliani had been criticized for being ambiguous on his abortion views, but firmly stated last week that he supports abortion rights.

"Is Rudy Giuliani presidential timber? I think not," Dobson wrote. "Can we really trust a chief executive who waffles and feigns support for policies that run contrary to his alleged beliefs? Of greater concern is how he would function in office. Will we learn after it is too late just what the former mayor really thinks? What we know about him already is troubling enough."

Maria Comella, a Giuliani spokeswoman, said that he is aware that his views on abortion may cost him some votes, but that he respects those who disagree with him.

"From the beginning, Mayor Giuliani has been straightforward on where he stands on the issue," Comella said. "It's a sign of leadership to stand by your views in the face of political expediency."

As for Giuliani's three marriages, Dobson wrote that there are "moral concerns about Giuliani's candidacy that conservatives should find troubling."

"Rudy wanted conservatives to believe he had undergone some kind of an election-eve conversion, more or less," Dobson wrote. "Then the contradictions began catching up with him, which often happens to those who play games with words. No, this leopard has not changed his spots."

Ron Paul supporters, please call Focus on the Family, too. I just went to their website and sent an email.

Hopefully, one of us will get their support.

Ostrich

I like a lot of things about James Dobson.

Hmmmm.

Dixie

Note - I know the article doesn't talk about him and other Christian leaders running a 3rd party candidate - I saw that on the TV news.

Excellent idea. I have been wanting a Third Party that really adresses the concerns of the social conservatives that put Reps in power-- namely immigration. However, we share a lot of concerns about the Republican Party's indifference to its constituents with this movement (and some share their religious views too). This is a coalition that would make sense, and combined we can have the numbers and power to shake things up.

The main thing is that we have a party that represents our concerns. Not one that lies to us for votes, then goes on their merry way of pandering to lobbyists like you know who........

I wrote him. I believe his support is crucial, as is the Christian right wing vote. I dont understand why they can't get behind either Tancredo or Hunter, or Paul.

Dixie
Dobson is wanting to punish the Republican Party for Guiliani. His plan is to run a Third Party. We'll end up with a situation like 2006 where we lost some good anti-illegal imm. Congressmen. There are some good conservatives running. Hopefully Dobson will help us advance them.
Thanks Melissa. We shouldn't give the country over to socialism to make a point. Positive and supportive action is needed.

IMO the Republican Party needs to be punished. It needs to die. The good Reps (and even good Dems) can jump on board with a new PATRIOTIC conservative party.

Lest we remain the Republican Party's useful idiots.

4 years of Hillary is worth the formation of a real patriotic party adressing real patriotic concerns, outside of globalist lobby funding. If we play ball within the established apparatus, we can expect more Giuliani's and Bush's to combat Hillary.....It will be Globalist A vs. Globalist B eternally.

Got the from Rense.com

And now comes the latest revelation. The corporate Christians recently met in Salt Lake. Mitt Romney was in town, no surprise. Did he attend? I don't know. We know that Dr. James Dobson did. Dr. Dobson recently said he could never support Rudy Giuliani. So far so good. Remember that Rudy is a cross-dresser and wears a brassiere. The Giuliani campaign won't tell me his size. To see him in drag, and for proof that he is prettier than Hillaroid, go to Not Holier Than Thou.

But the Christian nabobs there assembled announced that they cannot find a Republican to support. They can't support Fred Thompson either. Fred too has unchristian issues. But take heart. Another name did emerge. He is Â* the envelope please Â* Foster Friess. Who? Foster Friess. You remember Foster. Foster Friess of Jackson, Wyoming! Foster is said to be a billionaire investor and a big Republican contributor and philanthropist. What a guy!

He may be all these things and more; he may be a staunch Christian and a man from whom we can learn much. The trouble is that until this morning I had never heard his name and by dint of diligent study I am somewhat well informed. This probably means that the only people who did know Foster existed before this morning were Â* obviously Â* Mrs. Friess, God bless her, and the Friess kiddos, and of course the people Foster invests with.

This is the man James Dobson and other celebrity Christians are allegedly thinking of as their third party candidate for President next year. What does this tell you? If true Â* and I am praying it is not Â* if true it tells me that Dobson & Co. (1) either have gone completely crazy, or (2) they are too stupid or ignorant to warrant attention, or (3) they know exactly what they are doing and are deliberately trying to destroy any chance we have to save America.

There is no fourth possibility. We can be absolutely sure of this because there is still more proof that nails it down. We can see the devastating truth not in what the celebrity Christian nabobs said in Salt Lake, but in what they did not say. What did they not say? They made no reference whatsoever to "Dr. No," Congressman Ron Paul.

Consider Ron Paul. To find out where every other candidate stands on an issue, you must analyze the people and groups who support him, where his money comes from, where he comes from, who is making the most noise, etc. Not so with Dr. No. Most of the time, you don't even need to ask Ron where he stands on an issue. All you need do is consult the Constitution. Whatever it says is where Ron will stand, regardless of where his money comes from, who makes the most noise, etc.

Ron is the only Member of Congress I know of who refuses to take the lucrative retirement money to which he is entitled. He is so straight an arrow he makes the mathematical concept of a straight line look like the afterdeck of a hula dancer. Remember that I know Ron Paul personally for more than twenty five years and by now have been with him many times.

Ron is intensely boring. There is no scandal. There are no men's room incidents. Ron routinely goes home to wife Carol, a woman, a quintessential grandmother whom the normal man feels an irresistible compulsion to hug. Try it. It's fun. On the other hand, Ron is nowhere near as funny as Calvin Coolidge. He is just what he says he is. There is nothing to expose. My guess is that no movie of Ron's life could be made; no one could play him and there could be no script.

So, yes, Dr. No is intensely boring except Â* except Â* except for his electrifying ideas. He makes it possible to believe that the battle for America can be won, that the Constitution can be reactivated, that the unalienable right to mind our own business still lives, that you can keep your whole paycheck, that we can restore honest money. That is why so many young people support him Â* a man almost as aged as your reporter Â* and why he is winning so many straw polls.

Pundits are now making much of the fact that Ron raised more than a million dollars in less than a week. In fact, now comes word that in the third quarter of the year, he raised an incredible $5 million. That amount means much more than it would to any other candidate, because the other candidates must pay people to do things, which is a big expense in a political campaign.

Ron's people do what must be done for nothing, for the joy of doing it. Much of the time, Ron doesn't even need to ask them to do it. He is just the instrument they have coalesced around to get what they want. That is why, wherever the other candidates go, they find the place teeming with Ron Raiders.

Finally, Ron Paul is a staunch, lifelong Christian. He is not a celebrity Christian. He is not in your face. But he is a true Christian. He staunchly opposes abortion, an incendiary hot button to corporate Christianity. He is a ladies' doctor and has delivered thousands of babies. He has never killed a baby. One would imagine that Dr. No is the perfect candidate for the country's Christian leaders, the candidate God would give them were He to let them write down the qualities they want. But, if you thought that, Pilgrim, you would be totally wrong.

I would not complain at all were Dobson & Co. to consider Ron as a candidate and then state a list of reasons to reject him. Obviously I would disagree, but such a course would be fair comment. But what we have here is the inordinately suspicious fact that the Dobson Company has not considered Ron at all. Apparently, his name did not come up. The nation's Christian leaders are pretending Dr. Paul does not exist, somewhat akin to the pretense that Godzilla is not coming from the sea.

Again, I consider this lapse extremely suspicious. Corporate Christianity has long proven itself to be as useless as jugs on a boar. Is the truth even worse than we thought? Again, Jorge W. Boosh is collaborating with Hillaroid. If Dobson & Company go third party with old Foster or Dumb and Dumber, whoever they turn out to be, they would split the Republicans and hand her the White House despite the enormous antipathy she always inspires. Is this the plan? Yes, it's a breathtaking question, but I can't believe that Dobson could be so dumb.

Whatever the motive, would the rank and file believers in the celebrity Christian monoliths fall for it? Of course they would. If Dobson & Co. tell them this is what Jorge wants, you will see the Boosh zombies staggering from the meeting halls to the voting booths on Election Day to do it, as in George A. Romero's classic, "Dawn of the Dead." This is the inevitable result of worshipping a man. So it looks as if we must do the job without "Christian" support.

Say "yes" to "No."

There is a petition I signed yesterday that's going to Dr. Dobson; encouraging him to vote for Dr. Paul.