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    I'm not a racist but I fear this election for many voters has become an election about race, right or wrong! ...I feel that many in the democratic party are using the race card to get Obama elected...I would love to see a Black president if he did what is right for our country. But Obama's idea of taxing the rich and his foreign policies scare the heck out of me...But unfortunately too many are voting the race card and not the man.

    I just heard a policeman on a radio talk show say they are training and preparing for civil unrest if the election doesn't go the way that is expected!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly
    I'm not a racist but I fear this election for many voters has become an election about race, right or wrong! ...I feel that many in the democratic party are using the race card to get Obama elected...I would love to see a Black president if he did what is right for our country. But Obama's idea of taxing the rich and his foreign policies scare the heck out of me...But unfortunately too many are voting the race card and not the man.

    I just heard a policeman on a radio talk show say they are training and preparing for civil unrest if the election doesn't go the way that is expected!
    It will be shocking at this point if McCain gets it. I don't think they need to worry about civil unrest for the election-it's what could happen to Obama after he is on office that scares me more....
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    I'm not an Obama fan, but his plan for tax increases on the wealthy are little different than what we have seen in the past. Corporations are currently taxed less than they have been in 100 years. In the past they took on a much bigger tax burden than what we see today. It may be a lot, but it has always been a lot, and much more. Making enormous profits has always carried a price to maintain social balence. And the nation never self-destructed because of this.
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    The rich are not hurting, ever. Do you think Donald Trump worries at all about taxes? Just declare bankruptcy and make another million. I bet he pays his children and workers first.

    wmarincic: If we go to a federal sales tax the government will not check immigration status of workers at all. Why should they? The only reason they are checking legal status of workers now with raids is that the economy is getting destroyed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SicNTiredInSoCal
    Quote Originally Posted by Molly
    I'm not a racist but I fear this election for many voters has become an election about race, right or wrong! ...I feel that many in the democratic party are using the race card to get Obama elected...I would love to see a Black president if he did what is right for our country. But Obama's idea of taxing the rich and his foreign policies scare the heck out of me...But unfortunately too many are voting the race card and not the man.

    I just heard a policeman on a radio talk show say they are training and preparing for civil unrest if the election doesn't go the way that is expected!
    It will be shocking at this point if McCain gets it. I don't think they need to worry about civil unrest for the election-it's what could happen to Obama after he is on office that scares me more....

    I know there are alot of crazy people out there supporting both candidates...But the 'far left loonies' scare me the most.

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    Plus risk is already socialized for many of these corporations. They can profit, profit, profit, without fear of failure. Just ask Bear Stearns, AIG, Fannie, and Freddy.
    Serve Bush with his letter of resignation.

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    Has anyone seen this editotal of Patrick J. Buchanan"
    Something to think about

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    The Coming Backlash
    by Patrick J. Buchanan
    10/17/2008

    As Americans render what Catholics call temporal judgment on George Bush, are they aware of the radical course correction they are about to make?

    This center-right country is about to vastly strengthen a liberal Congress whose approval rating is only 10 percent and implant in Washington a regime further to the left than any in U.S. history.

    Consider.

    As of today, Speaker Nancy Pelosi, the San Francisco Democrat, anticipates gains of 15-30 seats. Sen. Harry Reid, whose partisanship grates even on many in his own party, may see his caucus expand to a filibuster-proof majority where he can ignore Republican dissent.

    Headed for the White House is the most left-wing member of the Senate, according to the National Journal. To the vice president's mansion is headed Joe Biden, third most liberal as ranked by the National Journal, ahead of No. 4, Vermont Socialist Bernie Sanders.

    What will this mean to America? An administration that is either at war with its base or at war with the nation.

    America may desperately desire to close the book on the Bush presidency. Yet there is, as of now, no hard evidence it has embraced Obama, his ideology, or agenda. Indeed, his campaign testifies, by its policy shifts, that it is fully aware the nation is still resisting the idea of an Obama presidency.

    In the later primaries, even as a panicked media were demanding that Hillary drop out of the race, she consistently routed Obama in Ohio and Pennsylvania and crushed him in West Virginia and Kentucky

    By April and May, the Democratic Party was manifesting all the symptoms of buyer's remorse over how it had voted in January and February.

    Obama's convention put him eight points up. But, as soon as America heard Sarah Palin in St. Paul, the Republicans shot up 10 points and seemed headed for victory.

    What brought about the Obama-Biden resurgence was nothing Obama and Biden did, but the mid-September crash of Fannie, Freddie, Lehman Brothers, AIG, the stock market, where $4 trillion was wiped out, the $700 billion bailout of Wall Street that enraged Middle America -- and John McCain's classically inept handling of the crisis
    In short, Obama has still not closed the sale. Every time America takes a second look at him, it has second thoughts, and backs away.

    Even after the media have mocked and pilloried Palin and ceded Obama and Biden victory in all four debates, the nation, according to Gallup, is slowly moving back toward the Republican ticket

    Moreover, Obama knows Middle America harbors deep suspicions of him. Thus, he has jettisoned the rhetoric about the "fierce urgency of now," and "We are the people we've been waiting for," even as he has jettisoned position after position to make himself acceptable.

    His "flip-flops" testify most convincingly to the fact that Obama knows that where he comes from is far outside the American mainstream. For what are flip-flops other than concessions that a position is untenable and must be abandoned?

    Flip-flopping reveals the prime meridian of presidential politics. If an analyst will collate all the positions to which all the candidates move, he will find himself close to the true center of national politics.

    Thus, though he is the nominee of a party that is in thrall to the environmental movement, Obama has signaled conditional support for offshore drilling and pumping out of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve

    While holding to his pledge for a pullout of combat brigades from Iraq in 16 months, he has talked of "refining" his position and of a residual U.S. force to train the Iraqi Army and deal with Al Qaeda.

    On Afghanistan, he has called for 10,000 more troops and U.S. strikes in Pakistan to kill Bin Laden, even without prior notice or the permission of the Pakistani government.

    Since securing the nomination, Obama has adopted the Scalia position on the death penalty for child rape and the right to keep a handgun in the home. He voted to give the telecoms immunity from prosecution for colluding in Bush wiretaps. This onetime sympathizer of the Palestinians now does a passable imitation of Ariel Sharon.

    No Democrat has ever come out of the far left of his party to win the presidency. McGovern, the furthest left, stayed true to his convictions and lost 49 states.

    Obama has chosen another course. Though he comes out of the McGovern-Jesse Jackson left, he has shed past positions like support for partial birth abortion as fast as he has shed past associations, from William Ayers to ACORN, from the Rev. Jeremiah Wright to his fellow parishioners at Trinity United.

    One question remains: Will a President Obama, with his party in absolute control of both Houses, revert to the politics and policies of the Left that brought him the nomination, or resist his ex-comrades' demands that he seize the hour and impose the agenda ACORN, Ayers, Jesse, and Wright have long dreamed of.

    Whichever way he decides, he will be at war with them, or at war with us. If Barack wins, a backlash is coming.
    <div>&ldquo;There is no longer any Left or Right, there is only Tyranny or Liberty &rdquo;</div>

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    PatriotoPast wrote
    THEY have Armies... WE have FAMILIES
    THEY have Influence... WE have The CONSTITUTION
    THEY have Power & Money... WE HAVE OUR FAITH IN GOD!!!
    Amen!

    Buchannan nails it everytime!
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