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08-02-2006, 06:08 PM #11And perhaps some rose bushes....
"Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting the same results is the definition of insanity. " Albert Einstein.
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08-02-2006, 06:27 PM #12
I have to give Jeff Sessions a lot of credit, he is a good Senator. I wish we had more like him.
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08-02-2006, 11:31 PM #13
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If it's like the San Ysidro fence put Rottweilers in the central corridor and don't feed them much.
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08-03-2006, 12:50 AM #14Under President Bush’s Operation Jumpstart, more than 6,000 Guard members are already assisting the Border Patrol. Among their duties is to help the Border Patrol build infrastructure, including fencing, roads and lighting along the border.
Now, be nice
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08-03-2006, 12:56 AM #15
Yea, right, like the 6000 guardsman we were promised by the end of June! I say plant cactus underneath it.
Build the dam fence post haste!
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08-03-2006, 01:03 AM #16Originally Posted by CheyenneWoman
See, the National Guard never actually said they'd be at the border, just somewhere in the general vicinity, like maybe within 50 miles of it.
And if you read el Presidente's statement real carefully - which is mandatory to understand his weasellyness - you'll see that he said up to 6000 troops could be there. So if it's only 3000, that's close enough for government work.It's like hell vomited and the Bush administration appeared.
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08-03-2006, 02:29 AM #17
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So defense appropriations bill with the $1.8 billion for the fence has been passed? Has it been negotiated with the House and signed by the President?
As long as the Senate "immigration reform" bill is not law, including Sen. Sessions' amendment to build 18% of the fence, I'm not sure what effect this appropriation has.One man's terrorist is another man's undocumented worker.
Unless we enforce laws against illegal aliens today,
tomorrow WE may wake up as illegals.
The last word: illegal aliens are ILLEGAL!
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08-03-2006, 09:43 AM #18
More questions
I still am wondering too. I haven't read specifically how much farther this amendment has to go before they can act on it and BUILD it. Here is an article that was in the Washington Times this morning. Your voices have been heard!! Sounds like it is the reasons many changed their vote. Let's keep it up. Also, someone asked who were the three that voted against it =their names are listed at the end...
The Washington Times
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Senate votes to fund the fence
By Stephen Dinan and Brian DeBose
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Published August 3, 2006
The Senate did an abrupt about-face yesterday, voting overwhelmingly to begin paying for 370 miles of fencing and 500 miles of vehicle barriers on the U.S.-Mexico border, just three weeks after voting against the same spending.
The amendment's sponsor said senators were so embarrassed by that July 13 vote that most felt they had to reverse course and vote for it this time -- especially after so many were on record in May voting to build the fence in the first place. The amendment, which provides nearly $2 billion for the project, passed 94-3, with 66 senators switching from "no" to "yes" votes since last month.
"I think people wanted to get right," said Sen. Jeff Sessions, Alabama Republican. "People heard from their constituents after they voted to authorize the fence in May and then voted against funding it a couple of weeks ago."
The fence has become one of the flash points as Congress and President Bush try to craft a new immigration enforcement policy this year piece by piece. Mr. Bush travels to Texas today to review operations at the border, including the success of his plan to deploy the National Guard to assist the U.S. Border Patrol in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas.
This week, the president reached his goal of assigning 6,000 Guard troops to the border states by Aug. 1. Still, of the 6,340 troops assigned as of yesterday, only 2,675 troops, or 42 percent, were "forward deployed." The rest are at joint task force headquarters, in training or in transit.
But the Guard's presence has led to a 25 percent drop in apprehensions at the border compared with the same time last year, suggesting the troops are having success in preventing illegal aliens from trying to cross.
That good news, though, was tempered by a government report that found Department of Homeland Security employees were fooled by counterfeit driver's licenses in nine different tests by undercover investigators at U.S. border crossings. The Government Accountability Office said that hole in security "potentially allows terrorists or others involved in criminal activity to pass freely into the United States from Canada or Mexico."
Democrats seized on the report as evidence Mr. Bush has fallen short on a key measure of homeland security.
"The record is clear: for more than five years, the president has failed to secure our borders and to enforce our immigration laws," said House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, California Democrat, who added that Republicans in Congress have let Mr. Bush get away with underfunding the Border Patrol and have delayed "real immigration reform" by fighting among themselves over whether to do enforcement first or pass a broad bill.
At the White House, spokesman Tony Snow said the administration is still pushing for a broad bill and he sees headway on administration insistence that Congress pass a broad bill that includes a guest-worker program and a path to citizenship for illegal aliens. [What?!?!?!}
"I think there's increasing awareness in both houses of Congress that that is the proper way to proceed," Mr. Snow said.
But House Republicans remain adamant about border security first, said Ron Bonjean, spokesman for House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert, Illinois Republican.
He said Mr. Hastert, who toured the border two weeks ago, is pleased with the assistance the Border Patrol is getting, "but a lot more needs to be done. The speaker believes we need a broad, strong border security bill first before we can do anything else."
Mr. Sessions said he senses that senators are moving toward stricter enforcement because they have heard from constituents back home.
"The voice of the American people is beginning to be heard, and there's been a sea-change in how people are thinking about some of these issues," he said. "It's become clearer and clearer that the fence does work, and it's been clearer and clearer that the American people want us to put our money where our mouth was."
Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, who voted against the amendment three weeks ago, praised yesterday's vote, which came on an amendment to the defense appropriations bill. The Tennessee Republican called it a step toward fulfilling the commitment the Senate made in May but stressed that he remains committed to a broad immigration bill.
"Getting border security right, including building fences, is a key component to securing our homeland -- which also helps open the door to comprehensive immigration reform," he said.
Mr. Frist made no mention of the July vote, which was on an amendment to the homeland-security appropriations bill, but his spokeswoman said her boss feared what homeland-security programs might be cut under that earlier amendment.
Other top Republicans seconded that explanation as the reason they voted against the last amendment and for this one.
The new amendment took money from a $86.3 billion "contingency fund" the Senate included in its proposed 2007 budget, which the lawmakers said was a better source than funding the border fence with homeland security money.
The three senators who voted against yesterday's fence amendment were Democrat Russ D. Feingold of Wisconsin, Republican Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and independent James M. Jeffords of Vermont.
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08-03-2006, 10:57 AM #19
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Originally Posted by andytThe first requisite of a good citizen in this republic of ours is that he shall be able and willing to pull his own weight.
Theodore Roosevelt
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08-03-2006, 11:27 AM #20
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