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    Texas didn't allow Bush to build the fence that Congress ordered built and funded in 2006 and Texas won't let Trump build a wall because much of the Texas border is the river. Any fence or wall cuts off the people of Texas, and their animals (COWS), from the river and free use of their water. The land right down to the water is owned by people who live there and farm or ranch there on most of the border. The river is also for fishing and boating, which a wall would block.

    It would take eminent domain to take that land. And that is very unpopular in Texas and elsewhere in the West.

    The cost of the land would be astronomical and the cost of the state and federal lawsuits would be very costly and would be tied up in court for many years.

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    . . . The Secure Fence Act of 2006 was passed by Congress and signed by President George W. Bush on October 26, 2006.
    The government of Mexico and ministers of several Latin American countries have condemned the plans.[15] Rick Perry, governor of Texas, also expressed his opposition saying that instead of closing the border it should be opened more and through technology support legal and safe migration. . .

    @ http://www.alipac.us/f12/what-happened-fence-306742/



    http://www.alipac.us/f12/tx-tpwd-rej...uction-118851/


    http://www.alipac.us/f12/tx-governme...native-121481/


    http://www.alipac.us/f12/tx-supreme-...-fence-150842/


    . . . "As a result of the Secure Fence Act passed in 2006, the government built some 650 miles of fence along the 1,954-mile US-Mexico boundary. While 1,254 miles of that border is in Texas, the state has only some 100 miles of fence. . .


    @ http://www.alipac.us/f12/keeping-fen...atchin-332522/
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    Quote Originally Posted by artist View Post
    . . . Have to wonder @ the anchor babies too - if birthright citizenship is clarified, would it be retroactive? . . .
    Hopefully some day the Supreme Court will block future Anchor Baby Citizenship but the Supreme Court will never allow any state or federal court to rescind the citizenship that has already been granted to people born here in the past.
    It would be great if they did.
    But they won't. IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by artist View Post
    possible - you have to wonder what would happen if within a yr or 2 all illegals would be out. The millions of jobs they have could not be filled quick enough and the tremendous amount of rental properties would be empty. Big mistake letting so many sneak in, giving them jobs, housing etc.
    But the reality here is that the only people hiring these people are legal immigrants. Legal immigration as it exists now depends on the illegals. The damage we do to the economy is only to the immigrant community that has created the problem in the first place. Remember that most illegals do not speak English. The only people who can hire them are their fellow legal immigrants. Throwing out illegals is not going to create jobs for real citizens. we need to remember that.

    Quote Originally Posted by artist View Post
    Have to wonder @ the anchor babies too - if birthright citizenship is clarified, would it be retroactive? They are citizens of their parents country so they would have a country to go to but they will fight that tooth and nail - they would not get our superior services, schooling in their mother country. They will have all kind of lawyers fighting for them.
    This is a more serious problem that has to be confronted by confronting the McCarran-Walter Act that makes these arguments plausible and all its heirs.

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    Trump is very much appreciated for his courageous & remarkable speak out of a corrupt system & its consequences but how far can he go considering the majority of politicians are crooked and on board with the open borders, globalists?

    The main thing is not to have a Democrat or open borders advocate in the WH after this year - hope for the best outcome.
    This is a good question. Can he do it? But we can rest assured that he can't do it alone, he is going to need a lot of support. Getting him in the White House will be the easiest part and that's not guaranteed yet.
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    pkskyali wrote:

    Trump is very much appreciated for his courageous & remarkable speak out of a corrupt system & its consequences but how far can he go considering the majority of politicians are crooked and on board with the open borders, globalists?
    ALL THE WAY! Trump can and will go all the way to end this disaster.
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    How do I know what Trump really means? He says one thing and then his surrogates tell us what he means and then the Trump supporters here tell us what he really means. I feel like saying "Would the real Trump please stand up"

    I do believe that Trump's surrogates are marketing tools. We the people are the market. I am sure Trump is behind this virtual fence and deportation idea. If he let's his surrogate put it out there he finds out if the idea is marketable and if not, well it was his surrogates idea, not his.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artist View Post
    possible - you have to wonder what would happen if within a yr or 2 all illegals would be out. The millions of jobs they have could not be filled quick enough and the tremendous amount of rental properties would be empty. Big mistake letting so many sneak in, giving them jobs, housing etc. . .
    When rental properties are empty the landlord often doesn't have the money to pay the mortgage. People who have invested their retirement money in rental property could lose not only their property but their retirement too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MontereySherry View Post
    . . . and then the Trump supporters here tell us what he really means. . .
    That's the most fun when people who have never meet Trump tell us his innermost thoughts and feelings. They must be psychic, or psycho or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    When rental properties are empty the landlord often doesn't have the money to pay the mortgage. People who have invested their retirement money in rental property could lose not only their property but their retirement too.
    No they won't. They'll be renting to Americans with jobs instead of illegal aliens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    No they won't. They'll be renting to Americans with jobs instead of illegal aliens.
    When you have millions fewer people in the country there will be millions fewer apartments or houses needed to house them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    When you have millions fewer people in the country there will be millions fewer apartments or houses needed to house them.
    When you have tens of millions of unemployed Americans who can't afford to rent, then you need fewer apartments or houses to rent. But when you have tens of millions of new employed Americans who can afford to rent them, you need more apartments and houses to rent to them.

    Furthermore, if you were renting to illegal aliens, then you were aiding and abetting illegal aliens, that's a violation of US immigration law, and I hope you go broke before an American rents the properties.
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