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    Trump’s fickleness frightens his base — and could doom tax reform

    Trump’s fickleness frightens his base — and could doom tax reform

    By Jennifer Rubin September 14


    President Trump meets with, from left, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.), House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and other congressional leaders at the White House in Washington on Sept. 6. (Evan Vucci/Associated Press)

    Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) thought they had a deal with President Trump. Knowing how unreliable he is, they quickly shot out an announcement Wednesday night after their dinner at the White House:

    We had a very productive meeting at the White House with the President. The discussion focused on DACA. We agreed to enshrine the protections of DACA into law quickly, and to work out a package of border security, excluding the wall, that’s acceptable to both sides.
    We also urged the President to make permanent the cost-sharing reduction payments, and those discussions will continue.

    Predictably, Trump’s base freaked out. The president had been snookered, giving the dreamers “amnesty” and not getting his wall. By morning, Trump was in full retreat, tweeting: “No deal was made last night on DACA. Massive border security would have to be agreed to in exchange for consent. Would be subject to vote. … The WALL, which is already under construction in the form of new renovation of old and existing fences and walls, will continue to be built.” But then again, he demonstrated he has no stomach for deporting the dreamers: “Does anybody really want to throw out good, educated and accomplished young people who have jobs, some serving in the military? Really!” Well, actually he did and his base still does.

    After meeting with Democratic lawmakers the night before, President Trump said on Sept. 14 that they're working together on a plan for DACA "subject to getting massive border control." (Reuters)

    Schumer and Pelosi were not about to let a deal this good slip away. They put out yet another statement:


    President Trump’s tweets are not inconsistent with the agreement reached last night. As we said last night, there was no final deal, but there was agreement on the following: We agreed that the President would support enshrining DACA protections into law, and encourage the House and Senate to act. What remains to be negotiated are the details of border security, with a mutual goal of finalizing all details as soon as possible. While both sides agreed that the wall would not be any part of this agreement, the President made clear he intends to pursue it at a later time, and we made clear we would continue to oppose it. Both sides agreed that the White House and the Democratic leaders would work out a border security package. Possible proposals were discussed including new technology, drones, air support, sensor equipment, rebuilding roads along the border and the bipartisan McCaul-Thompson bill.

    Schumer and Pelosi achieved one of two things, maybe both. They may have secured a deal for dreamers without anything that Democrats find all that objectionable. Trump is so anxious for a deal that he’ll no doubt sign anything put in front of him that spares him the task of following through on the assurances that his anti-immigrant supporters thought they had. And Schumer and Pelosi have shown Trump’s base for the second time within the span of a week how thoroughly unreliable Trump is.

    President Trump's position on DACA has taken several twists and turns over the years. (Meg Kelly,Claritza Jimenez/The Washington Post)

    Trump has demonstrated over and over that he cares nothing about the substance of any deal. He wants praise from whoever is in front of him at the moment and praise from the media, which despite his bashing, he desperately needs to tout his wonderfulness. Unfortunately, that does not work in politics. where the substance matters tremendously to politicians and their supporters. Trump has never been a “Republican” and indeed has never been shy about turning on a dime (e.g. on abortion) if he thought it would benefit him. As a result of his frantic, utterly unprincipled search for a deal, he has essentially convinced both sides that they cannot take him at his word.

    That, ironically, makes dealmaking on controversial issues impossible. Do Democrats believe him when he says he wants no tax cuts for the rich? Or do Republicans believe his emissaries, who bring proposals that most certainly benefit the rich — a lot? Republicans who pass a typical supply-side bill risk getting smacked by the president (as they were when he declared their health-care plan “mean”). Under such circumstances, it’s hard to imagine Republicans unifying around a specific plan with the assurance that the president will stand behind it.

    All of this goes back to the fatal error and morally bereft calculation that House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and other Republicans made. Sure, Trump is a narcissist, a know-nothing, a racist — but he’ll sign our bills! Actually, he won’t. Character always matters, and in this case, Republicans are paying the price for their Faustian bargain.

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    A wall is not enough; interior enforcement and deportation of illegals taking our jobs, flooding out schools, raising our taxes and healthcare costs, etc. This is what the American people want; the wall is great, but not enough.
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    It should be noted that Jennifer Rubin is a Race-baiting, DemoQuack, Anti-Trumper who hasn't been right about Trump once in the more than 2 years she's been using her position at Washington Post to tear him down. She's also Pro-Amnesty and Pro-DACA.

    Ending DACA would be Trump’s most evil act
    By Jennifer Rubin September 4, 2017

    By canceling DACA, President Trump is attempting to endear himself to his shrinking base, says Washington Post columnist Jennifer Rubin. He knows the only thing that truly "energizes the dead-enders is vengeance fueled by white grievance." (Adriana Usero, Kate Woodsome/The Washington Post)

    The Post reports:

    President Trump is expected to phase out the Obama-era program that grants work permits to about 800,000 undocumented immigrants brought to the United States as children, but delay its end for six months to give Congress time to pass legislation to replace it, according to multiple people briefed on the president’s discussions.

    Trump’s plan remains fluid and could change, however, and administration officials stressed Sunday evening that the president has not finalized his decision. The White House has scheduled an announcement for Tuesday.

    Some in the media take seriously the notion that he is “conflicted” or “wrestling” with the decision, as though Trump were engaged in a great moral debate. That would be a first for Trump, who counts only winners and losers, never bothering with moral principles or democratic norms. The debate, if there is one, is over whether to disappoint his rabid anti-immigrant base or to, as is his inclination, double down on a losing hand.

    The instantaneous backlash on social media Sunday night was a preview of the floodgates of anger that Trump’s decision to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program would open. Both Democrats and Republicans have urged him not to end the program; about 70 percent of voters in most polls favor keeping the program. Trump, who likes to think of himself as someone with “heart,” may yet decide to reverse course. If he does not, let’s get a few things straight.

    [President Trump said he’d ‘deal with DACA with heart.’ It was a lie.]

    First, let’s not think Trump — who invites cops to abuse suspects, who thinks ex-sheriff Joe Arpaio was “doing his job” when denying others their constitutional rights and who issued the Muslim ban — cares about the Constitution (any of the “twelve” articles). Trump says, “We love the dreamers. … We think the dreamers are terrific.” But in fact he loves the applause he derives from his cultist followers more than anything. Otherwise he’d go to the mat to defend the dreamers and secure their legal status.

    To begin with, surely Trump could talk the nine Republicans attorneys general out of the suit they are contemplating, or at least try his hand in court (as he has done repeatedly with the Muslim ban and sanctuary city order). In any event, he could wait for a final adverse ruling that could be months or years from now rather than end the executive order on his own. Needless to say, longtime anti-immigrant extremists Attorney General Jeff Sessions and senior adviser Stephen Miller have no interest in explaining any of that to the president. (When a president is as thoroughly ignorant and non-analytical as this one is, his aides have ample opportunity to lead him around by the nose.)

    Moreover, if Trump really thought he had to end DACA for constitutional reasons, how can he justify a six-month extension? (Why not 12 months? Two years?) And surely, if he really wanted Congress to act, he could insist it be tied (like Harvey funding) to the debt ceiling or, alternatively, to the funding bill to keep the government operating.

    No, if Trump cancels DACA, it will be one more attempt to endear himself to his shrinking base with the only thing that truly energizes the dead-enders: vengeance fueled by white grievance. And it will also be an act of uncommon cowardice. (“Should Trump move forward with this decision, he would effectively be buying time and punting responsibility to Congress to determine the fate of the Dreamers,” writes The Post.) Dumping it into the lap of the hapless Congress, he can try evading responsibility for the deportation of nearly 800,000 young people who were brought here as children, 91 percent of whom are working. (And if by chance Congress should save DACA, it will be Trump who is the villain and they the saviors, an odd political choice for a president who cares not one wit about the party.)

    As for Congress, House Speaker Paul Ryan, who talks about sparing the dreamers, will be sorely tested to overcome the objections of the hard-line anti-immigrant voices in his conference. Does he have the nerve to bring to the floor a bill that lacks majority support among Republicans? Tie it to a must-pass bill (e.g., Harvey funding, the debt ceiling, funding for the government)? In the Senate, will opportunistic right-wingers such as Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) grandstand, perhaps filibustering a measure into order to out-Trump Trump?

    However this turns out, the GOP under Trump has defined itself as the white grievance party — bluntly, a party fueled by concocted white resentment aimed at minorities. Of all the actions Trump has taken, none has been as cruel, thoughtless or divisive as deporting hundreds of thousands of young people who’ve done nothing but go to school, work hard and present themselves to the government.

    The party of Lincoln has become the party of Charlottesville, Arpaio, DACA repeal and the Muslim ban. Embodying the very worst sentiments and driven by irrational anger, it deserves not defense but extinction.

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    By canceling DACA, President Trump is attempting to endear himself to his shrinking base, says Washington Post columnist Jennifer Rubin. He knows the only thing that truly "energizes the dead-enders is vengeance fueled by white grievance." (Adriana Usero, Kate Woodsome/The Washington Post)
    Well, one thing is for sure, she's wrong about this. Trump didn't cancel DACA to appeal to his base. He only cancelled DACA because he had no other option. He actually did not want to end the program. However, when AG Sessions refused to defend it, he had to cancel it. Well, he really didn't cancel it, did he?!? He left it alive for another 6 months so he could push for a legislative amnesty for those enrolled and eligible for DACA. Does that sound like someone attempting to "endear" himself to his base?

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