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02-24-2016, 10:08 AM #1
I was very disappointed to see Scott Greer's article and Stephen Miller's comments miss the biggest question of all. Exactly how many illegal aliens does Trump plan to allow to return to the United States after deportation since such a return would require changing an important deterrent law currently in place that prohibits illegals from applying to return legally for a minimum of 10 years!?!?!?!
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02-24-2016, 10:45 AM #2
I am pleased that the issue of birthright citizenship is front and center.
”“Birthright citizenship really is the ultimate magnet for illegal immigration,” Miller explained to TheDC. “You can come here under our current policies on a 6-day trip, give birth to a child at a motel, and then your child will be an automatic lifetime U.S. citizen and in turn will be able to chain migrate you and others into the country on green cards.
To the man advising Trump on immigration policy, birthright citizenship “is an open, worldwide invitation to ignore America’s immigration laws and an absolute perversion, misinterpretation, misapplication of the Fourteenth Amendment.”
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02-24-2016, 12:57 PM #3Senior Member
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This is about as close to it in writing as I have seen for the mass deportation. Is he going to claw back or is it just going forward?.“Americans for the first time in their lives will wake up in a country where their immigration laws are enforced. That’s a powerful thing. People have been waiting decades for that chance, and now they have it by casting a vote for Donald Trump,” Miller claims.
That enforcement would result in the deportation of illegal immigrants and those who overstay their visas.
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02-24-2016, 01:04 PM #4"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" ** Edmund Burke**
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02-24-2016, 04:38 PM #5Senior Member
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Oh boy, this is going to be front and center at the next debate (because Cruz modifies deportation stance) when the topic of immigration comes up. This will be a very important debate coming up with respect to this subject and we know everybody's position, can't wait.Now that Trump has hired Miller away from Sen. Sessions, I don't think we'll hear anymore about deporting every single illegal within a two year period. It was an unattainable goal and Trump's new adviser Miller probably informed him of that fact.
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02-24-2016, 04:53 PM #6
Exactly.
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02-24-2016, 07:05 PM #7
Honestly, I don't see it as being a very big departure from anything he's said in the past. He has always said we will fully enforce our immigration law and has never said a single illegal will be exempt from deportation, unlike Trump. Fully enforcing our immigration laws has always meant the active pursuit of illegals to me. His mention of tripling our ICE agent numbers is something new for me. If he's able to do that, the business raids of old should start up again. If he can produce the funding to triple ICE numbers, Obama's excuse of needing to prioritize enforcement will no longer be an issue because we'll have ample agents to purse all known illegals.
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02-24-2016, 07:22 PM #8
Honestly, it's a huge deviation.
Using ICE as a deportation force looking for, hunting down illegal aliens for deportation is a huge vast wide deviation from "attrition through enforcement".Cruz changes tune on rounding up undocumented immigrants
By David Wright, CNN
Updated 7:36 PM ET, Tue February 23, 2016 | Video Source: CNN
Now Playing Marco Rubio accuses Ted...
(CNN)Ted Cruz moved to a more aggressive deportation policy in an interview on Monday night, saying he would look for and deport undocumentedl immigrants using Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents, marking a change from a January interview with CNN.
Appearing on "The O'Reilly Factor" on Fox News, Cruz was repeatedly pressed on the specifics of his deportation plans by host Bill O'Reilly, who asked Cruz, "Would you go look for them, though? As (Donald) Trump would look for them to get them out, would you do that if you were president?"
"Bill, of course you would, that's what ICE exists for," Cruz said. "We have law enforcement that looks for people who are violating the laws, that apprehends them and deports them."
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O'Reilly offered a hypothetical example of an immigrant from Ireland with "a couple of kids and he's settled into Long Island."
"And you, President Cruz, are going to send the feds to his house, take him out, and put him on a plane back to Ireland?" O'Reilly asked.
"You better believe it," Cruz said.
Cruz's comments to O'Reilly stand in stark contrast from his previous rhetoric on the issue.
In a January interview with CNN's Jake Tapper, Cruz had said he would not deploy a "deportation force," as Trump as suggested he would do as president.
"I don't intend to send jackboots to knock on your door and every door in America. That's not how we enforce the law for any crime," Cruz told Tapper. "We don't live in a police state. We do have law enforcement."
Chad Sweet, chairman of Cruz's presidential campaign, had also said after CNN's Republican presidential debate in December that the Cruz campaign supported "attrition through enforcement."
Cruz, winner of the GOP Iowa caucuses, is at a critical point in his campaign, following two significant losses to Trump in New Hampshire and South Carolina. He also fired his communications director on Monday for circulating a misleading video about rival Marco Rubio.
His next test is Tuesday, when Nevada Republicans head to their caucuses.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/23/politi...lly/index.html
Cruz is a loose cannon, he's against deportation, then he's for it, he's for the TPA, then he's against it, he's for legalization of illegal aliens, then he's against it, he's for John Roberts, then he's against him.
I have to stop, I'm getting seasick just thinking about all his back and forth.Last edited by Judy; 02-24-2016 at 08:09 PM.
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02-24-2016, 08:00 PM #9Senior Member
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Really? It is a positive move and I applaud it (I am not attacking you or Cruz, I am stating a material fact about his new position versus his old position), however, under his other position, Cruz would apply the law and when an illegal is apprehended for another crime, they would then discover they are here illegally and deport. Remember what I said last time we discussed this a few weeks back: if 9M illegal immigrants don't do anything wrong to be apprehended, then essentially they could stay indefinitely. This new position is radically different and may I add better. Please explain why you condemn Trumps version of a mass deportation when Cruz' plan is exactly the same. If you thought Trumps' plan was not realistic or workable, how do you support Cruz' plan without the same scrutiny? This only applies to deportation of non-criminal illegals. All others fall under their own category and are accounted for.Honestly, I don't see it as being a very big departure from anything he's said in the past. He has always said we will fully enforce our immigration law and has never said a single illegal will be exempt from deportation, unlike Trump. Fully enforcing our immigration laws has always meant the active pursuit of illegals to me. His mention of tripling our ICE agent numbers is something new for me. If he's able to do that, the business raids of old should start up again. If he can produce the funding to triple ICE numbers, Obama's excuse of needing to prioritize enforcement will no longer be an issue because we'll have ample agents to purse all known illegals.
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02-24-2016, 01:09 PM #10"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" ** Edmund Burke**
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