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    You think Trump is taking orders from Miller? Oh that is hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    You think Trump is taking orders from Miller? Oh that is hilarious.

    He would certainly be wise to heed his advice and a fool not to.

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    Why? Do you not want illegal aliens deported? Are you claiming Miller doesn't want illegal aliens deported? Are you suggesting Jeff Sessions doesn't want illegal aliens deported? Trump wants to deport illegal aliens and Trump Supporters want illegal aliens deported. Hell, even flippy-floppy Cruz now says he wants illegal aliens hunted down, rounded up and deported by ICE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Why? Do you not want illegal aliens deported? Are you claiming Miller doesn't want illegal aliens deported? Are you suggesting Jeff Sessions doesn't want illegal aliens deported? Trump wants to deport illegal aliens and Trump Supporters want illegal aliens deported. Hell, even flippy-floppy Cruz now says he wants illegal aliens hunted down, rounded up and deported by ICE.
    I'm not even going to justify those ludicrous questions with a response.

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    "Self deportation" is a kind of amnesty. Furthermore, it is a corruption of border control. Border control means controlling traffic accross our borders in both directions, both coming in and going out. The better part of illegal immigration is the ability of illegals to come and go as they please. If we encourage them to go as they please, then this also encourges them to come as they please.


    As a part of an anti-illegal amnesty, we should police exits by providing transportation to illegals who turn themselves in. There may be illegals who feel stuck here and would be happy to leave if they had the means to do so. They would be immune from prosecution, but only as long as they agreed to not contest prosecution the next time they were found in the US. And also they would be permanently excluded from eligibility to travel to the US for any reason.


    Exit Visas for people in the US on Visas would be a similar thing to enforce. The terrorists behind 9/11 were in the country on expired student Visas.
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    It is also encouraging to hear that birth right citizenship would be confronted as an issue in illegal immgration. We need to completely exhaust the history behind all this. We must examine in excrutiating detal what the legal arguments are that allow this obscenity against citizenship where fewer than both parents being US citizens is sufficient for birthright citizenship. That and the perverse joke that somehow the offspring of two US citizens born outside the US is not eligible to be president.
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    The Dominican Republic deported Haitians AND their anchor babies, for at least two generations. They reasoned that these Haitians were "passing through" not intending to have children there anyway, so they ruled that they were not citizens.

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    Hundreds of thousands of Haitian migrants and Dominicans of Haitian descent faced the risk of deportation from the Dominican Republic on Wednesday as a deadline for enforcement of a new immigration law approached.
    Dominican officials say anyone lacking identity documents or who has not registered for a so-called "regularization" program before the Wednesday night deadline could face deportation.
    The Dominican government says the changes to its nationality and immigration laws aim to tackle illegal migration from neighboring Haiti. Human rights groups say the move is rooted in longstanding racism and xenophobia in the Dominican Republic towards darker-skinned Haitians.
    Over the last century an untold number of Haitians have crossed into the more prosperous Dominican Republic to escape political violence or seek a better life, many working as sugar cane cutters, house cleaners or babysitters.
    Human rights groups say the new law could impact hundreds of thousands of these migrants and a smaller number of Dominican-born people of Haitian descent who lost citizenship after a constitutional court ruling in 2013 that has faced international criticism.

    Haitian sugar cane workers rally in front of the Haitian embassy demanding the Haitian passports needed to regularize their migration status in the Dominican Republic, in Santo Domingo on June 1, 2015. (ERIKA SANTELICES/AFP/Getty Images)
    That ruling reversed the right of citizenship for foreigners born in the Dominican Republic, stripping children of Haitian migrants of their Dominican nationality, human rights groups say.
    Dominican President Danilo Medina has said there will be no mass deportations. But undocumented Haitian migrants can be deported within 48 hours of the deadline, government officials have said. Those who register under the regularization program will have 45 days during which their applications are verified.
    The government says more than 210,000 people have registered under the program. Those deemed eligible could earn a two year temporary migrant status.
    The Dominican army has 2,000 troops ready to help coordinate the removal of people who fail to meet legal requirements to remain in the country. Four "Welcome Centers" are being set up to receive undocumented people, the government said.
    Local media have reported the government has dozens of buses on standby to transport undocumented people to the Haiti border.

    Haitian sugar cane workers rally in front of the Haitian embassy demanding the Haitian passports needed to regularize their migration status in the Dominican Republic, in Santo Domingo on June 1, 2015. (ERIKA SANTELICES/AFP/Getty Images)
    For the last few weeks long lines of Haitian migrants and Dominican-Haitians have formed outside a government office in the capital seeking to register under the regularization program, as police in riot gear stand guard.
    On Tuesday, Milaine Nocent beamed as she showed a reporter a copy of an official document obtained after four days of standing in line to register her children as Dominicans.
    "Now we can stay," she said with evident relief.
    Augustin Wasner, a construction worker who said he lacked the needed documents, vowed that whatever happened he would never return to Haiti.
    "I have brought many papers, I talked with many men but I can’t get inside," Wasner said.
    There is no official data on how many Dominicans of Haitian descent are in the country, human rights groups say, as many never obtained documents with the civil registry. Less than 9,000 have been able to register under a separate naturalization program which expired in February, according to Human Rights Watch.
    Amnesty International said it was concerned many Dominican-born people with a legitimate right to stay could be removed because they lack documentation.
    (Writing by David Adams. Additional reporting by Peter Granitz in Port-au-Prince; Editing by Andrew Hay)
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