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11-07-2012, 11:16 PM #11
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11-08-2012, 01:30 AM #12
The Electoral College is fine, but like others have said the problem is that it goes off the Census which counts illegal aliens and legal immigrants, both being non Citizens. If the Electoral College and the House seats were proportioned off of US Citizen counts only the story would be far different. Everyone can see looking at the states that Obama won are pretty much all high immigrant / illegal alien states. California's population is likely 30-40% non Citizen while almost every other state Obama won is 10% or more. How many Electoral votes is that alone automatically given to the Dem side, 20-25? Add in with those numbers and many of those states firmly opposing making sure only Citizens register and vote.
The US Political system and voting system is dead. There will be no come back from this in 4 years. The only hope is a revolution and people marching in the streets and it will sadly take also military power to back those people. With Obama's plans and the left's plans right now I foresee the collapse of the US Dollar within 2-3 years and within 3-4 years the collapse of the US as it is with a rise to a new 1 power system. All the said freedoms the Liberal side says they are fighting for will be stripped out completely such as the right to an education, the right to better oneself, the right of freedom of speech, and so forth.
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11-08-2012, 03:40 AM #13
There is 27,958,916 over 18 year olds in California. 5,573,450 voted for Obama. 3,635,571 voted for Romney. Obama won big in LA and along the entire coast of California. Inland Romney won. That leaves 18,749,895 that were either illegal immigrants or adults that didn't vote. I believe a large quantity have given up as I have been told by many Conservatives. Over and over I heard, "why vote they always say we don't count they already know who is the President before they get to California". There are millions of legal immigrants in California that actually aren't liberal. If only California had been targeted by Republicans I think they could have won the 55 Electoral Votes. California non-liberals need to be energized instead of feeling hopeless.
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11-08-2012, 11:19 AM #14
well I still say Mitt should have won .I don't care but I think it was fix . no two way about it .I like what
Romney said but I did not like what obama said at all obama look worry .
I see fox new & every other Tv looking in to this .
No amnesty or dream act
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11-08-2012, 04:40 PM #15
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I know that is why the census was taken a while back for that very reason. All the politicians were pleading with everyone to sign it and mail it back they wanted more electoral votes....I trashed mine. But... since half the populace is on the dole it worked in their favor that way too.
Between the Liberals, Union and Hispanics in California, we don't stand a chance. I watched Moonbeam declare he won on Prop 30 when it was tied and not all the votes were in. I don't think I will even bother to vote again.
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11-08-2012, 04:53 PM #16
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In a normal society he would have, but remember this....the Repugnants dissed the Tea Party People,they didn't win over all the independents, they did what they did to Ron Paul at the convention, and half the populace is on the dole in one way or another with all the free free free stuff.....Then you throw in the illegals voting and or added to the populace count (via electoral votes or how ever they do it) and there you have it. We are in for a wonderful time in River City...and half of us have no paddle......
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11-08-2012, 05:22 PM #17
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If only California had been targeted by Republicans I think they could have won the 55 Electoral Votes. California non-liberals need to be energized instead of feeling hopeless.
Electoral Votes by State in 2012
Which States Gained and Lost Electoral Votes
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/thepol...s-By-State.htm
Who are the Electors?
What are the qualifications to be an Elector? The U.S. Constitution contains very few provisions relating to the qualifications of Electors. Article II, section 1, clause 2 provides that no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector. As a historical matter, the 14th Amendment provides that State officials who have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the United States or given aid and comfort to its enemies are disqualified from serving as Electors. This prohibition relates to the post-Civil War era.
Each state’s Certificates of Ascertainment confirms the names of its appointed electors. A state’s certification of its electors is generally sufficient to establish the qualifications of electors.
U. S. Electoral College: Who Are the Electors? How Do They Vote?
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