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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    I have no problem with opposition groundwork. Besides attacking Trump and feeding the Left Frenzy that's trying to impeach him, what are your plans? Why aren't you attacking the sponsors of those bills?
    Because ultimately the responsibility of signing or vetoing the bill will come down to our President. While I think conditions are right for a Dream Act bill to pass through the U.S. Congress, I don't think it's possible for it to have veto proof numbers.

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    Whether Trump cancels DACA 2012 or not, you're still going to have to kill the bill in Congress. What Trump does with DACA is irrelevant to what Congress is going to try to do with the Dreamers, surely you know that, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Whether Trump cancels DACA 2012 or not, you're still going to have to kill the bill in Congress. What Trump does with DACA is irrelevant to what Congress is going to try to do with the Dreamers, surely you know that, right?
    Actually, I don't agree. If Trump were to keep his promise, it would show good faith.

    More importantly, such a move would force an expedited bill to the floor much sooner. That, IMO, could work in our favor because the Dreamer and their supporters are working the crowd as we speak. Let's catch them off-guard and force something before they've fully shored up their desired support. The longer we wait, the more people crying in Trump's face and pulling at his "heart".

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    Well, truthfully, I think right now our side needs to show some "good faith" in our new President, the first President since Dwight Eisenhower who is willing to deport illegal aliens, take on Mexico and Canada, take on the courts, take on the whole frigging world on our behalf. If Republicans don't think they can KILL THE BILL with regards to Dreamers in the US Congress, where we control both chambers, then Republicans need to sit down and wait for orders from the President, because he's got this, he has his plan, he has his strategy, and I have every reason to believe it will work very nicely and get US ALL some HUUUUGE results.
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    Right, but here're still some anti-republicans bugs, right McCaine, or Graham...who are against the current Government and the president. That's a huge problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Well, truthfully, I think right now our side needs to show some "good faith" in our new President, the first President since Dwight Eisenhower who is willing to deport illegal aliens, take on Mexico and Canada, take on the courts, take on the whole frigging world on our behalf. If Republicans don't think they can KILL THE BILL with regards to Dreamers in the US Congress, where we control both chambers, then Republicans need to sit down and wait for orders from the President, because he's got this, he has his plan, he has his strategy, and I have every reason to believe it will work very nicely and get US ALL some HUUUUGE results.
    I am not going to sit back and trust anyone including President Trump. I am spending my time talking to other disenfranchised American citizen's in California. We are tired of waiting for results. Our corrupt government has stolen from us and have given everything to the illegal immigrants including our votes. We are watching as our infrastructure is washing away and people are losing their homes. We are watching as our citizens are being killed, because our state decided to let criminals out on the street instead of fixing our prisons and they want to take our 2nd amendment away from us, so that we cannot defend our families. No Judy, we know where our money has gone. All to support and protect the illegal immigrant community.

    We are barely holding on and have been waiting for Trump to acknowledge the crisis that is going on here in California, but we have only gotten silence. He is not taking on the whole frigging world on behalf of the California citizens that so desperately need him. So, no I will not sit by quietly and trust your President.

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    Congressman Steve King said he doesn't understand why the President would make exceptions for DACA. Immigration laws are to be enforced. No special carve outs.

    President Trump needs to stop the two year DACA renewals happening every day and the new enrollments for DACA. He promised the American citizens he would prefer us, not foreign citizens.

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    You have to remember, Trump didn't carve them out. They were already carved out by Obama, Congress could have passed a law that prevented continuation of the DACA 2012 program, but Republicans didn't do that; the 26 states that filed the lawsuit against the Expanded DACA and DAPA of 2014 could have included DACA 2012 in their lawsuit against Obama, but 26 Republican Governors chose not to do that.

    If the Republican Congress when it had larger majorities than it has now refused to act against DACA 2012 and 26 Republican Governors chose not to include DACA 2012 in their lawsuit when they could have, why do Republicans expect Trump to do something when by now the program is set to expire next month? It takes up to 4 months to approve a DACA, none of the applications coming in since Trump was inaugurated will be approved, because the program will be legally expired before they're approved.
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    One dreamer mentioned the money. Around 800,000 DACA x $465.00 or whatever the fee is currently is another reason Republicans and Democrats like the program.
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