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    Trump: I'll 'revisit' DACA if Congress can't fix in 6 months

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    If Congress can't fix the immigration matter in 6 months, the President says he'll revisit the issue


    Trump: I'll 'revisit' DACA if Congress can't fix in 6 months

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    (CNN)President Donald Trump plans to "revisit" his administration's decision on the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program if Congress is unable to pass legislation on the issue in a designated six-month window, he announced in a tweet Tuesday night.

    "Congress now has 6 months to legalize DACA (something the Obama Administration was unable to do). If they can't, I will revisit this issue!" Trump wrote.

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    On Tuesday, Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced the Trump administration would end DACA -- a program that gave almost 800,000 young undocumented immigrants protections from deportation.

    "I am here today to announce that the program known as DACA that was effectuated under the Obama administration is being rescinded," Sessions said at the Justice Department.


    However, the administration said it would continue to renew permits for individuals over the next six months, giving Congress enough time to pass legislation that could extend protections for DACA recipients past the deadline.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    BREAKING NEWS
    If Congress can't fix the immigration matter in 6 months, the President says he'll revisit the issue


    Trump: I'll 'revisit' DACA if Congress can't fix in 6 months

    By Sophie Tatum
    Updated 9:08 PM ET, Tue September 5, 2017

    (CNN)President Donald Trump plans to "revisit" his administration's decision on the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program if Congress is unable to pass legislation on the issue in a designated six-month window, he announced in a tweet Tuesday night.

    "Congress now has 6 months to legalize DACA (something the Obama Administration was unable to do). If they can't, I will revisit this issue!" Trump wrote.

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    On Tuesday, Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced the Trump administration would end DACA -- a program that gave almost 800,000 young undocumented immigrants protections from deportation.

    "I am here today to announce that the program known as DACA that was effectuated under the Obama administration is being rescinded," Sessions said at the Justice Department.


    However, the administration said it would continue to renew permits for individuals over the next six months, giving Congress enough time to pass legislation that could extend protections for DACA recipients past the deadline.


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    Oh my God, Trump, shut the fvck up. Are you losing your mind??!!! JUST SHUT UP. DACAs aren't going to vote for you in 2020. DACAs aren't going to vote for Republicans in 2018. And if you don't shut the gawd damn fvck up about these con artist DACA's, I WON'T VOTE FOR YOU IN 2020. Now go get your armies ready to knock out the nuclear weapons in North Korea and never say the word "DACA" again.

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    I think Trump has fallen in love with all the attention. He is addicted to it. When he isn't feeling the love he is quick to have a rally with all of his supporters. He loved visiting and interacting in Texas after Harvey, playing the hero to all the victims, especially the kids.
    He really seems to want everyone to love him and now he wants to come to the rescue of all the dreamers.
    Trump, we do not need a daddy figure, a grandfather or a super hero. We need that man that said MAGA. You know the man that said Americans First.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MontereySherry View Post
    I think Trump has fallen in love with all the attention. He is addicted to it. When he isn't feeling the love he is quick to have a rally with all of his supporters. He loved visiting and interacting in Texas after Harvey, playing the hero to all the victims, especially the kids.
    He really seems to want everyone to love him and now he wants to come to the rescue of all the dreamers.
    Trump, we do not need a daddy figure, a grandfather or a super hero. We need that man that said MAGA. You know the man that said Americans First.
    Yep, he needs to quit looking at his presidency as a popularity contest. The American people voted on him to make tough choices, not knuckle under.
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    I just don't understand why he would want to taint the decision to end DACA with all his harping on Congress doing an amnesty for DACAs. He know that's a huge no-no. He's got something up his sleeve, because he's really not stupid, he's very smart, way too smart to be doing this as it appears.
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    I agree Judy he cannot afford to lose his base, he will not get re-elected and the rest of this term would be hell on earth for him.
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    I just heard on Fox and Friends that both GW Bush and Obama tried for this Dream Act. I heard Curbelo from Florida say that and then framed support for his own Dreamer Bill that if Trump could get this through Congress, it would "truly be historic". That's why Trump is harping on it, it would be something both Bush and Obama couldn't get done that he thinks he can get done. What he's failing to recognize is that these pushes on behalf of illegal aliens is what made Bush one of the most despised Republican Presidents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    I just heard on Fox and Friends that both GW Bush and Obama tried for this Dream Act. I heard Curbelo from Florida say that and then framed support for his own Dreamer Bill that if Trump could get this through Congress, it would "truly be historic". That's why Trump is harping on it, it would be something both Bush and Obama couldn't get done that he thinks he can get done. What he's failing to recognize is that these pushes on behalf of illegal aliens is what made Bush one of the most despised Republican Presidents.
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    Legislative history[edit]

    A similar version of the DREAM Act was introduced on April 25, 2001 by Representative Luis Gutiérrez, Democrat from Illinois, as the "Immigrant Children's Educational Advancement and Dropout Prevention Act of 2001" (H.R. 1582) during the 107th Congress. This bill received 34 cosponsors, and would have allowed illegal immigrant students to first apply to be protected from deportation and then apply for and receive lawful permanent residency if they met the criteria.[18]

    One month later, on May 21, 2001, Gutiérrez's version of the bill was scrapped in favor of a more limited version entitled "Student Adjustment Act of 2001" (H.R. 1918), introduced by Representative Chris Cannon, Republican from Utah. This version of the bill lowered age eligibility to 21 years of age and garnered 62 cosponsors. On August 1, 2001 a mirror bill to the "Student Adjustment Act of 2001" was introduced in the Senate by Senator Orrin Hatch, also a Republican from Utah. This legislation, S. 1291, was the first bill given the short title of "Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors Act" or "DREAM Act." Since that time the DREAM Act has been introduced in both the Senate and the House at various times.
    The text of the bill was placed in various other immigration-related bills, including the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006 (S. 2611) and the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007 (S. 1348). With the failure of these comprehensive reform bills, Senator Richard Durbin, Democrat from Illinois, made its passage a top priority for 2007.[19][20] In September 2007, Durbin filed to place the DREAM Act as an amendment to the 2008 Department of Defense Authorization Bill (S. 2919). In light of the criticism, Durbin tabled the amendment in favor of a rewritten DREAM Act amendment to the Defense Bill. In consideration of their opponents, all language regarding in-state tuition was removed from the amendment and an age cap of 30 was put in place for potential beneficiaries.[21] Military leaders embraced the bill, which included the promise of resident status to members of the military, as a means of boosting recruitment.[22]

    On October 18, 2007, Durbin, along with Republican co-sponsors Charles Hagel of Nebraska and Richard Lugar of Indiana, introduced the DREAM Act as S. 2205. Though nearly identical to the revised amendment to the Defense Bill, opponents continued to cite previous arguments. To bring the DREAM Act up for debate, a vote was scheduled on October 24 that would require a filibuster-proof count of 60yes votes, but that failed.[23] Senate opponents cited a variety of reasons for their opposition. Some labeled the DREAM Act as amnestythat would encourage chain migration and further illegal immigration in anticipation of new versions of the DREAM Act. Others stated that the DREAM Act, though worthy legislation, should be enacted only as part of a comprehensive immigration reform.

    Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, who had previously stated that she would oppose consideration of the DREAM Act, announced on the Senate floor that she had expressed reservations to Durbin and he had made a verbal commitment to work with her to make changes that she saw necessary to garner greater Republican support. In response, Durbin announced that the first amendment that would be considered, should debate of the DREAM Act begin, would completely re-write the bill in favor of the language that Hutchison suggested. According to her suggestions, illegal immigrant students should be allowed to hold a temporary student visa with a renewable work permit instead of conditional permanent residency. Although 52 Senators voted in favor of considering the DREAM Act, this fell eight votes short of breaking filibuster and the legislation was not considered.[21]
    2009[edit]

    The act was re-introduced in both chambers of Congress on Thursday, March 26, 2009, during the 111th Congress by Senators Dick Durbin (D-IL), Richard Lugar (R-IN), Harry Reid (D-NV), Mel Martinez (R-FL), Patrick Leahy (D-VT), Joseph Lieberman (I-CT), Ted Kennedy (D-MA), and Russ Feingold (D-WI)[24] and U.S. Representative Howard Berman (D-CA). To date, 128 representatives[25] and 39 senators[24] (not including former Senator Edward Kennedy) co-sponsored the bill. Under this version of the DREAM Act, immigrants could qualify in part, by meeting the following requirements:


    • Be between the ages of 12 and 35 at the time the Law is enacted
    • Arrived in the United States before the age of 16
    • Resided continuously in the United States for at least 5 consecutive years since the date of their arrival
    • Graduated from a US high school or obtained a General Education Diploma
    • Good moral character

    In addition to the temporary Residency, illegal immigrant students who qualified would also be entitled to apply for student loans and work study but would not be eligible for Pell grants. In certain circumstances, the person could lose temporary immigration residency if he or she did not meet the educational or military service requirement within the six-year time period or if they committed any crimes (other than those considered non-drug related misdemeanors) regardless of whether or not they had already been approved for permanent status at the end of their six years. If an individual were convicted of a major crime or drug-related infraction, (except for a single offense of possession of 30 g or less of marijuana) they would automatically lose the six-year temporary residence status and be immediately subject to deportation.[26]

    2010[edit]


    The 111th Congress continued to consider the DREAM Act bill throughout 2010. S. 3827, a new version of the DREAM Act, includes numerous changes to address concerns raised about the bill. The DREAM Act, along with a repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell", was incorporated into the National Defense Authorization Act for the Fiscal Year 2011. On September 21, 2010, the Senate filibuster of the bill was maintained in a 56–43 vote; it would have taken 60 votes to stop the filibuster and continue the progress of the bill.[27] The following day, Durbin introduced the bill once again along with Richard Lugar. Only two senators co-sponsored the bill and it was defeated again.[28]

    Less than a month later, on November 16, President Barack Obama and top Democrats pledged to introduce the Dream Act into the House by November 29.[29] The House of Representatives passed the DREAM Act on December 8, 2010,[30][31] but the bill failed to reach the 60-vote threshold necessary to end debate on the Senate floor (55-41—Motion to invoke cloture on the motion to concur in the House amendment to the Senate amendment No. 3 to H.R. 5281).[32]

    2011[edit]


    On May 11, 2011, then Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid reintroduced the DREAM Act in the Senate. Some Republicans who had supported the bill in the past, including Sen. John Cornyn of Texas, Jon Kyl of Arizona, John McCain of Arizona, and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, withheld their votes, objecting that such a bill should not be granted without increasing immigration enforcement. Reid indicated that he would consider adding a workplace enforcement measure in the DREAM Act that would require every employer to use E-Verify, the government's Internet-based work eligibility verification system.[33] President Obama supported the bill as one of his efforts to reform the US immigration system.[34]

    In July 2011, the state of California enacted the California DREAM Act, giving illegal immigrant students access to private college scholarships for state schools.[35] In August, the state of Illinois authorized a privately funded scholarship plan for children of immigrants both legal and illegal.[36]

    2012[edit]

    On June 15, 2012, President Barack Obama announced that his administration would stop deporting illegal immigrants who match certain criteria included in the proposed DREAM Act.[37] On August 15, 2012, the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) began accepting applications under the Obama administration's new Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program. Thousands applied for the new program.[38] Because DACA was designed in large measure to address the immigration status of the same people as the DREAM Act, the two programs are often debated together, with some making little distinction between them and others focusing on the difference between the the DREAM Act's legislative approach in contrast to the implementation of DACA through executive action.[39] As of January 2017, 740,000 people have registered through DACA.[40]

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