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    Trump is right: He didn’t kick a baby out of a campaign rally

    Trump is right: He didn’t kick a baby out of a campaign rally
    By Glenn Kessler August 6 at 3:48 PM

    “The press came out with headlines: ‘Trump throws baby out of arena.’ So dishonest. I mean these are dishonest people. I could give you 20 stories like that. Everyone’s having fun, we’re smiling, I’m waving. Everyone’s having fun, but they say Trump throws baby [out]. You know how terrible that is? It’s such a lie. And they know it’s a lie.”
    —Donald Trump, speaking at a rally in Green Bay, Wis., Aug. 5, 2016

    Donald Trump is complaining that the media has spun a fable that he kicked a baby out of his rally in Ashburn, Va.

    The New York Post, for instance, headlined its article: “Trump loves crying baby, then kicks the tot out of his rally.”

    The New York Daily News, in its article on the incident, began: “What a baby. Donald Trump booted a fussy baby from a rally Tuesday because the tot was wailing over the businessman’s speech.”

    The Guardian newspaper even used the incident to declare that this is a core problem with Trump — that he has “a total lack of empathy.”

    Within days, the Clinton campaign highlighted the baby affair in a video trashing Trump’s week:

    In reality, this is a situation when the video can lie — and Trump’s odd sense of humor can backfire. Let’s roll the tape.
    The Facts

    There are two parts to the video. During his speech a baby starts to cry, and Trump says: “Don’t worry about that baby, I love babies. … I hear that baby crying. I like it. What a baby. What a beautiful baby. Don’t worry, don’t worry. The mom’s running around like — don’t worry about it, you know. It’s young and beautiful and healthy, and that’s what we want.”

    But then about a minute later he says: “Actually, I was only kidding. You can get the baby out of here. … I think she really believed me that I love having a baby crying while I’m speaking.”

    So, just from watching the video, Trump sounds rather cruel. But what’s missing is what the mother was doing. As it happens, Daniel Dale, a reporter from the Toronto Star, was sitting right behind her and wrote that the entire incident was mischaracterized.

    The baby was one row in front of me, three or four rows from the stage, at Trump’s event at a high school in Ashburn, Va. When it began to cry, Trump said, “Don’t worry about that baby, I love babies. I love babies. I hear that baby crying, I like it. I like it. What a baby, what a beautiful baby. Don’t worry, don’t worry. The mom’s running around — don’t worry about it.”

    People applauded. One minute later, though, the baby began to cry again. This time, the mother quickly decided to take the baby out of the room. Trump, looking in our direction, appeared to notice that she was on her way to the exit.

    And then he said, “Actually, I was only kidding. You can get the baby out of here. That’s all right. Don’t worry. I think she really believed me that I love having a baby crying while I’m speaking?” He cupped his hand over his eyes to watch her leave. “That’s okay, people don’t understand. That’s okay.”

    A joke? Possibly. An insensitive, heartless, ordinary-person-embarrassing remark? Possibly. Trump’s tone is eternally hard to read. But, to my eyes, it certainly was not an ejection — it was an unusually barbed endorsement of the mother’s own decision to depart.

    One other salient fact is missing from all the pieces on babygate. Mom and baby, very much not kicked out, came back to their seat a bit later.

    The baby was sucking a pacifier, silent.

    Dale had this perspective because he was not sitting in the news media corral. “I almost never request press credentials from the Trump campaign anymore — partly because I like being in the crowd rather than the pen,” he told The Fact Checker. “I was lucky, this time, that the usher people seated me very close to the stage, and one row behind the baby. There was one empty seat up there.”

    Virtually no one in the media noticed Dale’s version of events. He said he did not seek to interview the mother himself, as he did not realize until later how much attention had been paid to this incident.

    Dale’s account is confirmed by the mother herself — Virginia resident Devan Ebert. (She spoke on the condition that we not report her town.)

    “The media did in fact blow this entire situation out of proportion,” she wrote in an email. “I’m not looking to make it into anything bigger. All I’m hoping is that Trump personally is aware that I am in agreement with him and stand by the fact that I was never kicked out of the rally.”

    She said that she decided to leave the auditorium on her own because “it’s the considerate thing to do for others around, trying to listen or for those presenting,” adding that “it was blatantly obvious he was joking.” She said she stood with the police officers outside the auditorium, who were very kind to her, and then returned to her seat once her child had calmed down.

    “I had a wonderful time and I appreciate Trump’s graciousness during a time that is usually considered stressful,” she said. “His comic relief was a breath of fresh air.”
    The Pinocchio Test

    Trump has been unfairly maligned here. We can see why some reporters ran with this tale, based only on the videotape, but it’s good example of why everything must be checked out.

    We’ve given Trump many Pinocchios over the course of the campaign but he earns a Geppetto Checkmark for getting at least this story right.
    The Geppetto Checkmark

    What's true, what's false or in-between.

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    Damn! An honest story from the Washington Post. Is hell freezing over?
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    Report: Donald Trump never threw a baby out of a rally

    By Reena Flores CBS News August 6, 2016, 8:59 PM

    On Friday, Trump charged the media with being "dishonest" about his handling of a crying baby at an Ashburn, Virginia, rally earlier in the week.

    "The press came out with headlines: 'Trump throws baby out of arena.' So dishonest. I mean these are dishonest people," the GOP nominee said at a Green Bay, Wisconsin, event Friday evening, insisting that he had been joking when he said the infant needed to leave. "Everyone's having fun, we're smiling, I'm waving. Everyone's having fun, but they say Trump throws baby [out]. You know how terrible that is? It's such a lie. And they know it's a lie."

    That same day, Trump's general election opponent, Hillary Clinton, came out with a mocking video of Trump's own words from that memorable Virginia campaign stop, circulating it on social media:

    The truth of the matter, however, remained unresolved -- until now.

    The enterprising fact-checkers at the Washington Post tracked down two sources -- an eyewitness to the proceedings and the mother of said baby -- and determined that Trump was, in fact, telling the truth Friday about how he treated the bawling infant.

    This is how Daniel Dale, a reporter from the Toronto Star and firsthand witness to the events, described what happened, according to the Post:

    The baby was one row in front of me, three or four rows from the stage, at Trump's event at a high school in Ashburn, Va. When it began to cry, Trump said, "Don't worry about that baby, I love babies. I love babies. I hear that baby crying, I like it. I like it. What a baby, what a beautiful baby. Don't worry, don't worry. The mom's running around -- don't worry about it."

    People applauded. One minute later, though, the baby began to cry again. This time, the mother quickly decided to take the baby out of the room. Trump, looking in our direction, appeared to notice that she was on her way to the exit.

    And then he said, "Actually, I was only kidding. You can get the baby out of here. That's all right. Don't worry. I think she really believed me that I love having a baby crying while I'm speaking?" He cupped his hand over his eyes to watch her leave. "That's OK, people don't understand. That's OK."

    Dale noted that "mom and baby, very much not kicked out, came back to their seat a bit later."

    The Post confirmed Dale's retelling with an account from the infant's mother, Devan Ebert.

    "The media did in fact blow this entire situation out of proportion," Ebert, from Virginia, wrote in an email. "I'm not looking to make it into anything bigger. All I'm hoping is that Trump personally is aware that I am in agreement with him and stand by the fact that I was never kicked out of the rally."

    She told the paper that she had left the rally of her own volition because it was the "considerate thing to do for others around, trying to listen or for those presenting."

    "It was blatantly obvious he was joking," Ebert said.

    © 2016 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved.

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    Really? An honest article about Trump by CBS??!! You mean all those women who went running to support Hillary because the press lied and said Trump kicked a baby out of his rally, ran to Hillary on a Media Lie??!! What next? Millennials running to support Hillary because they believe the Media Lie that he's going to nuke Europe and can't be trusted with the nuclear codes??!!

    I wonder how fast they'll tell the truth about all the Media Lies they've told about Trump??

    Let me tell you Media, when you lie, it's in the record forever. That's right, all your names are on your articles, and in the records of American History .... forever. You wonder what your "children" think of Donald Trump? You best be worried about what they think of you and your lies, that may falsely influence the outcome of a Presidential election in the United States.

    Trump will overcome this Media Bias that tries to turn apple pie into crap, but you won't be able to overcome your role in the crap, because like I said, the ugliness of your Media Lies are forever in the record for all to see.
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    Clearly that baby had no idea where it was and the mom should have been a little more considerate to herself, the baby and all the audience by bringing the baby there in the first place. Sorry, not a place for a baby. There should be no flare up with this and the mom is still voting for Trump. With ISIS, Iran, bad trade deals and illegal immigration creating havoc, this is what people want to focus on. Get a real problem!

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe s View Post
    Clearly that baby had no idea where it was and the mom should have been a little more considerate to herself, the baby and all the audience by bringing the baby there in the first place. Sorry, not a place for a baby. There should be no flare up with this and the mom is still voting for Trump. With ISIS, Iran, bad trade deals and illegal immigration creating havoc, this is what people want to focus on. Get a real problem!
    Just another instance of liberal media attempting to generate a negative story on Trump where none exist. They've been pounding him without mercy as of late. What they are doing is a crying shame considering Hillary gets to stand on the sidelines without noticeable scrutiny. Their fear would be laughable if this wasn't such a serious business!
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    Mom of Crying Baby at Rally Defends Trump — It Was Hilarious

    (video of her at the source link)

    by PAM KEY
    8 Aug 2016
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    Monday on Fox News Channel’s “Happening Now,” Devan Ebert the mother of the crying baby who became the center of attention at a rally for Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump last week defend Trump saying he was only joking while she was already leaving the venue with her child when he spoke about it and said, “It was hilarious.”

    Ebert said, “Honestly, the first thing that I want to point out is that it doesn’t matter how blunt he is, he’s genuine. He’s so relatable. Everything he says I just feel like everybody was already thinking it any ways. I think people find ways to be offended by what he says. I don’t know, he’s genuine and he says how it is. I love that about him.”

    Explaining she was not offended she said, “Oh, no. not at all. Not at all. Not one little bit. In fact I appreciate it, because, you know, you’re a mother and you understand that when your baby starts making the disruption in that event, and the spotlight is on you, it’s nice to have the comic relief to take the pressure off of you.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/...was-hilarious/
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    This whole story was just another manufactured fabricated lie by a Corrupt Media!
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