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Cracking down on employers that hire, aid, and abet illegal aliens is one of the four key points of the ALIPAC Platform. It is a staple of our movement.

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ALIPAC Platform
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Originally Posted by ALIPAC

Cracking down on employers that hire, aid, and abet illegal aliens is one of the four key points of the ALIPAC Platform. It is a staple of our movement.

Yes, I saw that quite clearly. My position is the the rest of the three points are effectively noise. There is a simple elegance in emphasizing labor enforcement. The other issues go away once this is taken care of.

Most of these illegal migrants have "home bases" in Mexico, that they return to when jobs run out. This has been the normal pattern for almost 100 years. You don't need to waste billions of dollars on a fence if the undocumented cannot find work here. They will return to their homes. So why alienate the movement from various demographic and economic interests by advocating fences. It's an expensive red herring.

I suspect part of the reason is that there is no political will to enforce additional business regulation regarding labor laws. This has to change, because this is the source of the problem. Everything else is symptomatic.

Originally Posted by Alia_of_the_knife

Originally Posted by ALIPAC

Cracking down on employers that hire, aid, and abet illegal aliens is one of the four key points of the ALIPAC Platform. It is a staple of our movement.

Yes, I saw that quite clearly. My position is the the rest of the three points are effectively noise. There is a simple elegance in emphasizing labor enforcement. The other issues go away once this is taken care of.

Most of these illegal migrants have "home bases" in Mexico, that they return to when jobs run out. This has been the normal pattern for almost 100 years. You don't need to waste billions of dollars on a fence if the undocumented cannot find work here. They will return to their homes. So why alienate the movement from various demographic and economic interests by advocating fences. It's an expensive red herring.

I suspect part of the reason is that there is no political will to enforce additional business regulation regarding labor laws. This has to change, because this is the source of the problem. Everything else is symptomatic.

Fences and walls are not in our platform. They only enjoy 56% support from the American public. While these readings are strong, everything on our platform must have over 80% support.

But then again, it does not matter what you or I think or the 80% of Americans that support the measures in our platform as long as the Executive Branch is derailing our Republic by not enforcing the existing laws passed by Congress.

W

Originally Posted by ALIPAC

But then again, it does not matter what you or I think or the 80% of Americans that support the measures in our platform as long as the Executive Branch is derailing our Republic by not enforcing the existing laws passed by Congress.

W

Yes, I agree completely.

Yes, I saw that quite clearly. My position is the the rest of the three points are effectively noise. There is a simple elegance in emphasizing labor enforcement. The other issues go away once this is taken care of.

Labor enforcement will do little to control illegal aliens primarily here to rape, rob, sell drugs, form gangs, traffic in slaves, blow up buildings, and a myriad of other reasons. Get real.

You are part of the problem.

Originally Posted by loservillelabor

Yes, I saw that quite clearly. My position is the the rest of the three points are effectively noise. There is a simple elegance in emphasizing labor enforcement. The other issues go away once this is taken care of.

Labor enforcement will do little to control illegal aliens primarily here to rape, rob, sell drugs, form gangs, traffic in slaves, blow up buildings, and a myriad of other reasons. Get real.

So you think a person would illegally immigrate to the U.S. just to rape people??

So you think a person would illegally immigrate to the U.S. just to rape people??

You've sidestepped a major portion of my answer to you to dwell on one point. So I'll concede that it might be extreme to immigrate for that sole purpose. Stranger things have happened such as devoting a lifetime to religous org for access to victims. But..One for you.

Now tell me how the labor laws will help with

rob, sell drugs, form gangs, traffic in slaves, blow up buildings, and a myriad of other reasons.

Originally Posted by loservillelabor

So you think a person would illegally immigrate to the U.S. just to rape people??

You've sidestepped a major portion of my answer to you to dwell on one point. So I'll concede that it might be extreme to immigrate for that sole purpose. Stranger things have happened such as devoting a lifetime to religous org for access to victims. But..One for you.

Now tell me how the labor laws will help with

[quote:31zka27r]rob, sell drugs, form gangs, traffic in slaves, blow up buildings, and a myriad of other reasons.

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These people are in our country because they can get paid for manual labor. The presence of this population comes with its associated costs in crime specific to that demographic. They don't come here because there's better crime to be done here. That's plain silly. You're putting the cart before the horse. And that is why enforcing existing labor laws should be the top priority. Unfortunately, most people don't understand this. They'd rather see half of a fence go up in the desert for a full billion dollars. We're all being had.

I think people would illegally immigrate to the United States just to do it. I think people would illegally immigrate to the United States just to break our laws. I think people would illegally immigrate to the United States just for spite and for no other reason at all.

That's what I think.

These people are in our country because they can get paid for manual labor. The presence of this population comes with its associated costs in crime specific to that demographic. They don't come here because there's better crime to be done here. That's plain silly. You're putting the cart before the horse. And that is why enforcing existing labor laws should be the top priority. Unfortunately, most people don't understand this. They'd rather see half of a fence go up in the desert for a full billion dollars. We're all being had.

Many illegal aliens are here to rape and pillage. Many are here to TAKE what they can from the Gringo that owes them for historic injustices!

They are here to steal.

They are stealing US Citizenship and identities.

W