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Way to go GRASSLY . . . YOU GET IT!!!

Grassley is good, bringing out alot of bad points in the bill!

Maybe he heard the American people!!!! Our continued calls, faxes and emails SEEM to be getting some to THINK and realize we are out here and we are AS MAD AS HELL AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE! KEEP up the GOOD work American Patriots!

Originally Posted by April

Maybe he heard the American people!!!! Our continued calls, faxes and emails SEEM to be getting some to THINK and realize we are out here and we are AS MAD AS HELL AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE! KEEP up the GOOD work American Patriots!

Lets hope so April

Grassley proposes amendment 1164 [?]

Topic: Visa Revocation process changes

Amend - proposes to change way visas are approved by consular officer - non-reviewable - have final say.

(Uses example of 9/11...)
How to get known terrorist that have made way into US ASAP?

Point: people that have gained access to come, have access to US court system to prevent removal. Prevents access US Courts to stop removal.

Asked Chertoff about problem - said that visitors that misbehave should be asked to leave immediately.

Why is it important?

2003 GAO report - suspected terrorists could be allowed to stay in country after determination - visas revoked.

FBI suspected terrorist ties in hundreds of visa applications - consular offices not told of this info. Visa already granted, people already came here. GAO found even though visas revoked, visa officials couldn't do anything about situation.

How does it affect us today? Visa officer grants visa - person comes.
[outlines examples..good reasons to revoke a visa.


3 points about Visa revocation:

1. Decision to revoke a visa are not taken lightly

2. Consular don't have auth to revoke a visa based on suspicion. Must have actual finding.

3. Consular officers must give alien chance to defend and explain self


Currently, aliens can run to steps of our courthouses and take advantage of system. Jeopardized classified INTEL, can force FBI, etc. to share information.

Impacts - info not given to state dept. , If info gets out, damper will take effect.


We need to secure the country.


4 Visa policies about 9/11 attacks:

19 terrorist used 364 aliases - they knew how to play the system.

2 of them obtained fraudulent visas through illegal means

19 terr applied for 23 visas,

Several lied on visa applications

9/11 Commission - suggests greater control over enty/visa system reqd

Terrorists took advantage before 9/11 - this amendment will be helpful.

Yields floor...

Some please update me - WHEN are they going to vote on this? I've heard it's tomorrow and I've heard it was delayed.

Originally Posted by TexasCowgirl

Some please update me - WHEN are they going to vote on this? I've heard it's tomorrow and I've heard it was delayed.

I don't believe it will be until after memorial day break!

TexasCowgirl wrote:

Some please update me - WHEN are they going to vote on this? I've heard it's tomorrow and I've heard it was delayed.

SOSAD IS right , it has been delayed until after Memorial weekend.

Originally Posted by alisab

Way to go GRASSLY . . . YOU GET IT!!!

Wait, didn't he vote YES on the cloture vote Monday? If so, is he changing his mind?!?!?

Please leave the podium, Sen. Menendez (D-NJ), before I lose my breakfast!