Thread: Veteran Immigrants

As long as it is Americans volenterring

Originally Posted by Sapperwes

As long as it is Americans volenterring

would you explain this ?

I mean that an all volenteer Army is what makes our Military great,and forceing people into service to get citizenship would degrade our great Military.Like I said I knew guys joining to get citizenship and fought beside them.They were good people and wanted to be there and wanted to be Americans.Didn't mean the last post the way it sounded.thanks for pointing it out

I suggest you people take a long look at this list:

Defender's Name Birthplace
Abamillo, Juan TX
Allen, Robert VA
Andross, Miles DeForrest VT
Autry, Micajah NC
Badillo, Juan A. TX
Bailey, Peter James III KY
Baker, Isaac G. AR
Baker, William Charles M. MO
Ballentine, John J. PA
Ballantine, Richard W. Scotland
Baugh, John J. VA
Bayliss, Joseph TN
Blair, John TN
Blair, Samuel TN
Blazeby, William England
Bonham, James Butler SC
Bourne, Daniel England
Bowie, James KY
Bowman, Jesse B. TN
Brown, George England
Brown, James PA
Brown, Robert unknown
Buchanan, James AL
Burns, Samuel E. Ireland
Butler, George, D. MO
Cain, John PA
Campbell, Robert TN
Carey, William R. VA
Clark, Charles Henry MO
Clark, M.B. MS
Cloud, Daniel William KY
Cochran, Robert E. NH
Cottle, George Washington MO
Courtman, Henry Germany
Crawford, Lemuel SC
Crockett, David TN
Crossman, Robert PA
Cummings, David P. PA
Cunningham, Robert NY
Darst, Jacob C. KY
Davis, John KY
Day, Freeman H.K. unknown
Day, Jerry C. MO
Daymon, Squire TN
Dearduff, William TN
Dennison, Stephen England or Ireland
Despallier, Charles LA
Dewall, Lewis NY
Dickinson, Almeron TN
Dillard, John Henry TN
Dimpkins, James R. England
Duvalt, Andrew Ireland
Espalier, Carlos TX
Esparza, Gregorio TX
Evans, Robert Ireland
Evans, Samuel B. NY
Ewing, James L. TN
Faunterloy, William Keener KY
Fishbaugh, William unknown
Flanders, John MA
Floyd, Dolphin Ward NC
Forsyth, John Hubbard NY
Fuentes, Antonio TX
Fuqua, Galba AL
Garnett, William VA
Garrand, James W. LA
Garrett, James Girard TN
Garvin, John E. unknown
Gaston, John E. KY
George, James unknown
Goodrich, John C. VA
Grimes, Albert Calvin GA
Guerrero, José María TX
Gwynne, James C. England
Hannum, James PA
Harris, John KY
Harrison, Andrew Jackson TN
Harrison, William B OH
Hawkins, Joseph M. Ireland
Hays, John M. TN
Heiskell, Charles M. TN
Herndon, Patrick Henry VA
Hersee, William Daniel England
Holland, Tapley OH
Holloway, Samuel PA
Howell, William D. MA
Jackson, Thomas Ireland
Jackson, William Daniel KY
Jameson, Green B. KY
Jennings, Gordon C. CT
Jimenes (Ximenes), Damacio TX
Johnson, Lewis Wales
Johnson, William PA
Jones, John NY
Kellog, John Benjamin KY
Kenney, James VA
Kent, Andrew KY
Kerr, Joseph LA
Kimbell, George C. PA
King, William Philip TX
Lewis, William Irvine VA
Lightfoot, William J. VA
Lindley, Jonathan L. IL
Linn, William MA
Losoya, Toribio TX
Main, George Washington
Malone, William T. GA
Marshall, William TN
Martin, Albert RI
McCafferty, Edward unknown
McCoy, Jesse TN
McDowell, William PA
McGee, James Ireland
McGregor, John Scotland
McKinney, Robert TN
Melton, Eliel GA
Miller, Thomas R. TN
Mills, William TN
Millsaps, Isaac MS
Mitchell, Edwin T. unknown
Mitchell, Napoleon B. unknown
Mitchusson, Edward F. VA
Moore, Robert B. VA
Moore, Willis A. MS
Musselman, Robert OH
Nava, Andrés TX
Neggan, George SC
Nelson, Andrew M. TN
Nelson, Edward SC
Nelson, George SC
Northcross, James VA
Nowlan, James England
Pagan, George unknown
Parker, Christopher Adam unknown
Parks, William NC
Perry, Richardson TX
Pollard, Amos MA
Reynolds, John Purdy PA
Roberts, Thomas H. unknown
Robertson, James Waters TN
Robinson, Isaac Scotland
Rose, James M. OH
Rusk, Jackson J. Ireland
Rutherford, Joseph KY
Ryan, Isaac LA
Scurlock, Mial NC
Sewell, Marcus L. England
Shied, Manson GA
Simmons, Cleveland Kinlock SC
Smith, Andrew H.
Smith, Charles S. MD
Smith, Joshua G. NC
Smith, William H. unknown
Starr, Richard England
Stewart, James E. England
Stockton, Richard L. NJ
Summerlin, A. Spain TN
Summers, William E. TN
Sutherland, William DePriest unknown
Taylor, Edward TN
Taylor, George TN
Taylor, James TN
Taylor, William TN
Thomas, B. Archer M. KY
Thomas, Henry Germany
Thompson, Jesse G. AR
Thomson, John W. NC
Thruston, John, M. PA
Trammel, Burke Ireland
Travis, William Barret SC
Tumlinson, George W. MO
Tylee, James NY
Walker, Asa TN
Walker, Jacob TN
Ward, William B. Ireland
Warnell, Henry unknown
Washington, Joseph G. KY
Waters, Thomas England
Wells, William GA
White, Isaac AL or KY
White, Robert unknown
Williamson, Hiram James PA
Wills, William unknown
Wilson, David L. Scotland
Wilson, John PA
Wolf, Anthony unknown
Wright, Claiborne NC
Zanco, Charles Denmark
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Originally Posted by Sapperwes

I mean that an all volenteer Army is what makes our Military great,and forceing people into service to get citizenship would degrade our great Military.Like I said I knew guys joining to get citizenship and fought beside them.They were good people and wanted to be there and wanted to be Americans.Didn't mean the last post the way it sounded.thanks for pointing it out

thats good because I had a Dutchman and a Hispanic from Texas on my Special Forces team in Vietnam watching my back and I'm still here.

And I will repeat, On this particular issue, someone who has joined as an illegal, cannot be trusted to defend America or Americans.

My son and I have talked about this, and he himself admitted to torn feelings due to the closeness that takes place among everyone serving. But, he also admitted that it has been on other issues that they served. And that this can of worms is a whole different ball game when you know the guy next to you has illegal family in the US as well. He lived in Barreo Logan in San Deago for 3 yrs. He knows of latino family loyality. He partied with them, fought with them, ate with them. And admits on this one issue he could not totally 100% trust that guy next to him if they both stood on the boarder and saw illegals crossing. He also expressed he would be able to in ALL other areas they would be fighting or performing in. This situation is very unique to other wars and military actions that illegals have severed with us in.

And had they not been given this amnesty deal, and be aloud to embed in our military, there would be no concerns at all about were we would stand if all hell broke loose. I resent like all hell That I even have to even worry about my son's well being in this area. He should be able to trust every soldier out there 100%! But, thats not America's reality at this moment.

Do you think all those with "unknown" might have been illegals?

Seriously, the US military does not knowingly take illegal immigrants. There has been a program for years that allowed an accelerated path to citizenship for resident aliens.

One thing I don't like is part of the DREAM Act is an option for those to serve 2 years in the military as a path to citizenship. People eligible for DREAM are illegal aliens. DREAM is an amnesty.

Once again, I have the utmost respect and love for our military.

I just want to point out right now there are people in this country who have no respect for this country, its laws, it's people, its customs, it's very survival.
I am going to be concerned that merely putting them in uniform, and administering an oath will somehow transform them into American loving people.

I just think the possibilities are too scary.

Things are not what they used to be just a generation ago.

We have people in the WH, and many in congress, in our state legislature, law enforcement, etc., who have taken oaths. They seem to be forgetting those oaths right now. They are literally conspiring to destroy this country, it's soveriegnty and its people. Many of those people served in the military - but are willing to do this to America and its people.


WE have enough of our institutions destroyed by this - I would hate to see the military.

Nothing is beyond the realm of possibility in this country right now.