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    Is whacking our children to be good little citizens at the same time the government is opening up the border to anyone that can undercut the cost of labor and also welcome all of the leaches of the world really that damned brainy?
    This is something we don't really cover much. what do I teach the Grandson. Sometimes I feel as if I should do like the mother in the Terminator movie and start training him for the coming chaos.
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    Good question LL. It used to be pretty clear what it meant to be a good American. Now it's pretty hazy.

    Listening to George Bush I would get the impression that breaking immigration laws is a pretty admirable thing to do.

    What will be the next?
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    Somedays he just disgusts me to the point where I cannot even find the words to express it. How he gets away with this I do not know.

    I believe that inside himself he knows that we are correct and that we are right. There is no way that any of these politicians who are fighting against us do not know and understand that we are right.

    Anyone raised in America knows that there is a right way and a wrong way to do things. We were all taught it. They were too.

    He's just a sell out.

    That's all they are. They are not statesmen or patriots or true leaders.
    They got into their positions through money and connections. That's all.

    They will destroy our country if we don't stand up to them and fight back.
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    If you look around the world, you seem the same strategies being used against all the Western democratic nations
    I agree with this. The illegal aliens are being supported by large socialist groups. This is not really a new phenomena although I must say I am a bit surprised at how blatant they are being. However much of what we are seeing is textbook Lenin.

    They care little for "democracy" except in how they can use it to defeat us.
    (In reality we are supposed to have a represenative republic but...)

    Sometimes I feel as if I should do like the mother in the Terminator movie and start training him for the coming chaos.
    I think we should be teaching and preparing for both. As we are painfully finding out. Our government should be our servant and not our master. We have let it go for so long it remains to be seen if we can by the process "reel it back in"
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    You are partially right. It's not the illegal aliens who have been studying our weaknesses. They are merely tools. If you look around the world, you seem the same strategies being used against all the Western democratic nations. That tells me that this runs much deeper than the machinations of a single people or a single despot. The illegals are hungry animals rising to the bait laid by master strategists.
    Crocket is exactly correct. There is something much bigger going on world wide. All other Western democratic nations are having the same problem at the same time, the illegals in each respective nation are all even using the same slogans and same tactics. They are all reading from the same handbook. There is something behind all the illegal immigration woes all these countries are having all at the same time.

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    You are right.........there is more behind it. More than just the illegals.
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    Corporate Control

    Quote Originally Posted by dlm1968
    You are partially right. It's not the illegal aliens who have been studying our weaknesses. They are merely tools. If you look around the world, you seem the same strategies being used against all the Western democratic nations. That tells me that this runs much deeper than the machinations of a single people or a single despot. The illegals are hungry animals rising to the bait laid by master strategists.
    Crocket is exactly correct. There is something much bigger going on world wide. All other Western democratic nations are having the same problem at the same time, the illegals in each respective nation are all even using the same slogans and same tactics. They are all reading from the same handbook. There is something behind all the illegal immigration woes all these countries are having all at the same time.
    When we talk about corporations controlling our country, controlling our elected officials, one important element is rarely addressed.

    These corporations are Global in scope.
    It is no longer a question of American Corporations wanting cheap labor.

    It now goes beyond that.

    The enemy is not American corporations alone but rather World-Wide conglomerate interests.

    Another important point is that money never seems to be enough for certain types..

    It is about Power and Control on a grand scale.

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    This is the reason that terms like "separatist" and "sovereign" have suddenly come under attack by the MSM. The only hope for fighting the rapid incursion of globalism is localized political control. Because the US has progessively federalized since Lincoln's war, local political power has become fairly meaningless in scope. States' rights no longer exist, with the federal government even telling state courts what monuments may or may not appear in their courthouses.

    If we want to fight this global takeover (and whether we actually want to fight it is an open question), two things must occur. First a group of people or a region will have to openly declare their sovereignty and reclaim their rights, including their local government's rights under Amendment X. This will have to occur openly and defiantly, with local government and the people who own it ignoring federal edicts and court rulings that violate the compact with the People.

    Secondly, that group will need its own self-sufficient economy. For that reason, such a separation would need to occur in a geographically diverse region rich in natural resources and having a sound infrastructure and international ports. To my knowledge, there are three states that meet those criteria. One of them, California, is a lost cause buried in socialism and up to its eyeballs in foreign invaders and their apologists. Another, Alaska, has the benefit of being geographically remote, has ports and plenty of resources, but has a harsh climate and poor infrastructure. The other, Texas, is geographically diverse, has a well-developed port system and all the energy production it could need, has a temperate (if somewhat hot in the summer) climate and a diverse economy, and is peopled by many rugged individualists who also happen to be armed to the teeth. The one issue that Texas seriously needs to address is the huge current illegal immigrant population.

    Texas has twice planned the creation of a Texas bank with the power to coin its own money. The first plan hatched by former governor John Connally and the billionaire Hunt brothers was thwarted by an engineered collapse of silver prices. The Hunts were bailed out by the Federal Reserve after a week of closed door meetings in which they allegedly agreed to never again attempt to compete with the Federal Reserve and its monetary monopoly, while Connally was subjected to an all-out assault by the IRS that left him broken and destitute. The second bank plan was contemplated by the administration of the late Ann Richards, but was thwarted by her loss to George W. Bush. Such a bank and a stable currency (which probably requires a backed currency) is essential if we are to combat the globalist agenda.

    I won't go into all the specifics regarding the legal status of Texas and its unique relationship with the federal government as compared to the other 49 states, but it alone has the power to either fully secede from the federal union or to act autonomously and create it's own separate economy and laws under Amendment X.

    The point of all of this is that the time has come for people to begin to put their money where their mouth is and to consider consolidating the remaining independent freedom-loving Americans into one specific region where they can fight the globalist influences by removing the control that the NWO types have over our educational systems and media and by reforming our legal system back to a true justice system rather than a bastardized commercial jurisdiction. If we are to reclaim our heritage and our nation, we cannot continue to allow our ranks to be adulterated by uncontrolled immigration of dependent peasants with no concept of liberty or individual responsibility. We may not be able to stem the tide of these invaders nationwide, but we can offset their political influence by concentrating our own in a smaller geographical area with an eye to eventual separation from our current turncoat government that is bought and paid for by the globalist banking interests.

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