Thread: What “Subject to the Jurisdiction Thereofâ€

There is another section of the 14th Amendment which is also intentionally mis-applied:

"Section 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed."

This section overrode the provisions of the Constitution that counted slaves as three-fifths of a person for purposes of allotting seats in the House of Representatives and the Electoral College. It was another provision enacted to give freed slaves full rights as US Citizens.

But it has more recently been used, just like birthright citizenship, to give illegal aliens more rights and representation by putting most illegals into "Democratic" districts, and to say since they are "persons" under the 14th Amendment they are included in the population count for that district. Of course just like birthright citizenship, this language was only intended to benefit freed slaves, not foreign invaders! So anyway we end up with "Democratic" districts that have half as many US Citizens as "Republican" districts, the result is 20 more Democrats in the House than a correct 14th Amendment application would give you. I suppose if you included anchor babies as not being US Citizens, this double mis-application of the 14th amendment gives an extra 30 Democrats in the House. If not for these intentional mis-applications of the 14th Amendment, Republicans would control the House right now!

In other words, our House of Representatives is Unconstitutional! Feel free to ignore any laws they pass.

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I don't believe the individual states have the authority to issue a birth certificate to a child of a noncitizen. Now here's a job that really does belong to the federal government. These illegals need to apply to the federal government for citizenship of their anchor babies. Citizenship is a privilege offered by the federal government, not the states' government. We could use this arguement to stop all states from offering birthright citizenship. There is no law that says a state has to give out this privilege anyway. In fact, states are interferring with the federal government when they issue birth certicates to anchor babies.

Originally Posted by tinybobidaho

I don't believe the individual states have the authority to issue a birth certificate to a child of a noncitizen.

County clerk recorders issue birth certificates, I wonder what sort of state laws govern this? I bet that is what the people here in CA who want to stop issuing State birth certificates to anchor babies must be basing their initiative on, that the current State practice is against the 14th Amendment.

I don't know Bowman. I tried to look it up but came up empty. What really galls me is that states keep saying that enforcing immigration laws is the federal government's job, yet they're interfering with the (federal) citizenship privilege.

Originally Posted by Bowman

Originally Posted by tinybobidaho

I don't believe the individual states have the authority to issue a birth certificate to a child of a noncitizen.

County clerk recorders issue birth certificates, I wonder what sort of state laws govern this? I bet that is what the people here in CA who want to stop issuing State birth certificates to anchor babies must be basing their initiative on, that the current State practice is against the 14th Amendment.

They want to give the children of illegals a "different" birth certificate-----and make the illegal parents physically show up to get it-----after being photographed and fingerprinted.

How many do you think would show up to get them??

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