Thread: Group says it was kicked out of park, restaurant

Group says it was kicked out of park, restaurant

About 50 people meet to discuss immigration

By Tillie Fong, Rocky Mountain News
May 24, 2005

WESTMINSTER - A group of people meeting to discuss illegal immigration Sunday claim they were kicked out of both a restaurant and a city park because employees or patrons didn't like their stand on the issue.

"It baffles me," said Michael Corbin, host of a radio talk show, A Closer Look, on KHNC-AM (1360), who had organized the meeting.

"I can be a little more understanding about what happened in the restaurant if those people in the kitchen were concerned about what we were talking about. But there were few people in the park, and they could not hear us or interact with us. I don't know why we were thrown out of the park."

Westminster Police Chief Dan Montgomery said he was told the group was asked to leave Christopher Fields because ballplayers had complained. "We had leagues playing there and several of the ballplayers complained that (this group) was so loud, they were disturbing the games," he said.

Corbin said he estimated about 50 people had gathered at Jackson's All-American Sports Grill, 10710 Westminster Blvd., at 2 p.m. for a meeting in a reserved room toward the back of the restaurant. Corbin said he invited Terry Graham, a Boulder resident, to speak at the gathering. Corbin characterized the group as primarily conservative and in favor of strict immigration controls.

It was during Graham's comments that Corbin said the assistant manager of the restaurant motioned him over.

"He said, 'You got to shut this down and leave immediately,' " said Corbin.

Corbin said he was trying to get the microphone to make an announcement that the meeting had to close, when a Hispanic man charged out of the kitchen and snatched the microphone from Graham.

"He said, 'This is over. Everybody pay your bill and leave. If you don't, we will call the police,' " Corbin said.

The group complied and left the restaurant after paying their bills.

A woman who answered the phone at the restaurant Monday said, "We do not wish to comment" on the incident.

About 25 people in the group decided to continue the meeting at nearby Christopher Fields, at 104th Avenue.

At about 4:30 p.m., 45 minutes after the group had arrived, Westminster police officer Tim Torres approached the group and asked everyone to leave.

Corbin said Torres told the group that "this as an inappropriate place for that and that you have to leave. He made us leave and we left. He was very stern about it."

Westminster Chief Montgomery said he has assigned investigator Kevin Beren with the professional standards unit to investigate the matter further.

"We're getting some conflicting information and we needed to do more interviews," he said. "We are looking into the matter further. I want to get to the bottom of this."

Montgomery said he's asking members of the group and any other witnesses to call 303-430-2400 and ask the operator to direct their call to Beren.

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Police probe park eviction

Discussion about immigration spurred ouster in Westminster

By Tillie Fong, Rocky Mountain News
May 25, 2005

WESTMINSTER - Police are investigating the ouster of a group discussing immigration policies from a city park on Sunday.

"We're trying to sort out what the truth is, where's the middle ground, and what's reasonable and appropriate," Westminster police spokesman Tim Read said Tuesday.

A group of 50 people assembled by Michael Corbin, host of A Closer Look on KHNC-AM (1360 AM), first met at Jackson's All American Sports Grill, 10710 Westminster Blvd., on Sunday to talk about immigration issues and what citizens could do to change policies.

The group, which Corbin characterized as favoring strict immigration controls, was told by restaurant staff members to leave.

When some members of the group moved to nearby Christopher Fields off 104th Avenue to continue the meeting, they were told by Westminster police officer Tim Torres that the park was not an appropriate venue for their meeting and that they should leave.

"I'm still trying to evaluate what's happening," said Corbin on Tuesday. "We can't seem to get a straight answer from anybody - either at the restaurant or the park. Why didn't we get other options? It seems strange to me that we were dealt (with) this way right off the bat."

Tuesday, the Ziegler family that owns the Westminster Jackson's franchise issued a statement saying the group was asked to leave after several patrons complained.

"Jackson's All American Sports Grill regrets when any person is requested to leave its premises; however, Jackson's does not and will not allow conduct by anyone which interferes with the peaceful enjoyment of food and drink by our customers," the statement read.

Corbin said he was puzzled that his group wasn't first asked to "tone it down" if it was disturbing customers.

Bill Walenczak, director of the city's Parks, Recreation and Libraries department, said Tuesday that the pavilion area at Christopher Fields is a public area. "They had every right to go to the ball fields and view what's going on, and even talk among themselves if they wanted," he said.

"There's nothing wrong with them doing that. But we draw the line if they were disruptive to the scheduled activities."

Walenczak said that at least two softball games were being played at the complex Sunday afternoon, and that it was the players who complained about Corbin's group.

Any witnesses to the events are asked to call investigator Kevin Beren at 303-430-2400 and ask the operator to transfer the call to him.

KHOW-AM (630) radio contributed to this report.

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To Jackson's Restaurant, I say "bunk". I know the type of people trying to save our country. I don't care what kind of group you have that reserves a spot in the back of the restaurant fo 50 with a microphone, they are not going to bother anyone unless the microphone setting was too loud in which case they might need to turn down the volume, whether they are discussing immigration or the PRICE OF TEA!!

To the City of Westminster....if this police officer was not acting upon orders by his superiors and taking matters "into his own hands", then he needs to be dismissed, his background information checked thoroughly as he may have slipped into the police department "under the radar", and full and complete action taken.

To the American Citizens whose civil rights of assembly and free speech have been breached....take the full and appropriate action.

If the City Tavern, in Philadelphia, had "restricted" our Founding Fathers from assembling to discuss the future of America and the American Revolution, the owners of Jackson's Restaurant would likely be cleaning toilets for the King of England and the "guests" who complained would be serfs.

The City Tavern, in Philadelphia, remains to this day a place of gathering, a place of political discussion, a place of free speech, and a right of assembly.

I suggest any restaurant that wishes to hold a license to conduct business, keep a fresh copy of the US Constitution on hand and the next time a foreign agent darts out of the kitchen to violate an American's civil rights...you send the alien packin' instead of the Americans.

CLOSE JACKSON"S RESTAURANT....they don't deserve the right to own a public restaurant in the United States.

TMS, Welcome to the Board.. This is a great sotry... You should post it under the News Stories section of the board. Thanks again for the great story.

What's wrong with this picture?????????
Something is under the surface and I wonder if it's a "latino grapevine thing".......call me crazy but this is my instinct.

An incident almost exactly the same as this first happened in New Jersey last week. Now this one. Smallish town restaurant setting, etc. Same results.........w/police involved.

Then the Long Island HILTON incident. Latino organizations preening themselves for having stopped the "Racist/Vigilantes" group before it began.

Then the threat on Las Vegas Meeting.

I believe that there's a CONCERTED EFFORT to break up any small town meetings that are scheduled to take place.
My wager is on the probability that there is a committee who's working overtime to collect information about these meetings and then passes the info out to their sheeple to make the necessary stink in order to shut them down.

I posted it in the news story section......

tms--why don't you go in and "edit" your post. Then click and select all and copy it to a new Topic in the News Article section. Change the title abit or it won't accept like add a 2 at the end. Then those people who just check the articles will find it. It is a very important story...it is as 2ndamendsis just suggested, our Wise one, a concentrated effort to suppress us as their opposition by interfering with groups constitutional rights to assemble and exercise their rights of free speech.

The source of the concentrated effort?

The 300 affilifiates of the National Council of La Raza. If you will check the website for National Council of La Raza, look for a button that says "Affiliates". You'll read that they have over 300 throughout the United States....their tenacles of constitutional suppression.

Each one of these is a 501 C 3 "public charity" using their resources, staff, contacts, networks....to stop the meetings of anti-illegal immigration groups trying desperately to find ways to stop this MADNESS.

Well.....it won't work. Americans will never let this fly. Not now. Not ever.