Thread: Is This What Corporate Elites Really Think Of Us?

Originally Posted by tinybobidaho

Losers DO care however, as there usefulness to society is limited and their work can be done by a loser of any nationality.

Short list of "losers" who cared about borders (feel free to add):

Theodore Roosevelt

Andrew Jackson

Dwight D. Eisenhower

Naloleon

Alexander the Great

Caesar

Luckily, the winners control the politics and there's nothing the losers can do about it. I love capitalism! "

Notice how he doesn't say how he loves democracy? The "winners" controlled politics in much the same way in Nero's Rome. This guy is a punk, but at least he is an honest punk. It exposes exactly what the problem is about.

Sometimes you have to wonder how people like this even exist. How is unabashed greed an adaptive evolutionary trait? How is worship of money above all the ideal for anyone? History has shown that without nation, the individual is nothing. For thousands of years it is proven that accumulation of wealth will get you nowhere unless there is a nation to back, certify, and protect your rights, investment, and hard work.

My guess is that it is a fad. These maladaptive traits will prove useless to the future and will be bread out of existence. The nationless moron will prove to be an accident of history and tossed into the ash-heep.

The guy who left that "winners/losers" comment just sounds like a wannabe. He's probably just a prickish day trader, or perhaps an Obama supporter with an ax to grind about capitalism.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s110-1858


I hope this isn't a duplicate post. I did a search, and didn't see it under this heading.


Bush Signs Bill To Take All Newborns’ DNA

Steve Watson
Infowars.net
Friday, May 2, 2008

President Bush last week signed into law a bill which will see the federal government begin to screen the DNA of all newborn babies in the U.S. Within six months, a move critics have described as the first step towards the establishment of a national DNA database.

Described as a "national contingency plan" the justification for the new law S. 1858, known as The Newborn Screening Saves Lives Act of 2007, is that it represents preparation for any sort of "public health emergency."

The bill states that the federal government should "continue to carry out, coordinate, and expand research in newborn screening" and "maintain a central clearinghouse of current information on newborn screening… ensuring that the clearinghouse is available on the Internet and is updated at least quarterly".

Sections of the bill also make it clear that DNA may be used in genetic experiments and tests.

Read the full bill here.

One health care expert and prominent critic of DNA screening is Twila Brase, president of the Citizens’ Council on Health Care who has written a detailed analysis (PDF) of the new law in which she warns that it represents the first program of populationwide genetic testing.

Brase states that S.1858 and H.R. 3825, the House version of the bill, will:

• Establish a national list of genetic conditions for which newborns and children are to be tested.

• Establish protocols for the linking and sharing of genetic test results nationwide.

• Build surveillance systems for tracking the health status and health outcomes of individuals diagnosed at birth with a genetic defect or trait.

• Use the newborn screening program as an opportunity for government agencies to identify, list, and study "secondary conditions" of individuals and their families.

• Subject citizens to genetic research without their knowledge or consent.

"Soon, under this bill, the DNA of all citizens will be housed in government genomic biobanks and considered governmental property for government research," Brase writes. "The DNA taken at birth from every citizen is essentially owned by the government, and every citizen becomes a potential subject of government-sponsored genetic research."




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Originally Posted by Nicie

Bush Signs Bill To Take All Newborns’ DNA

Pretty strong argument for home birthing.

the more I think about it. You have more actual rights without a birth certificate and ssn.
Lack of birth certificate - What are they going to tell you? You are not alive?
No SSN pain in the ass and you will have to have your own business/farm but beyond that...?

Pretty strong argument for home birthing.

There will probably be a law against that soon, if there isn't one already ! It seems American's have become fair game. It makes me think of Clint Eastwood's movie, "Any Which Way You Can" (they'll sock it to us)