Thread: What really is Progressive Democrats?

Recently I keep hearing Democrats saying they are progressive. At first I didn't pay that much attention. I assumed my definition of progressive, which is the same as my dictionary, "One who favors progress and reform" was what they were talking about. Who doesn't support that idea, right?

Well after watching what is going on in our government and watching Glenn Beck I started doing some research on the internet.

What I find is a group of people supporting socialism. I didn't realize there actually was a party, PDA - Progressive Democrats of America. I didn't realize how they had taken over the Democratic Party in California.

They have snuck in the back door, they are not on the list of Qualified Parties in California. They are reaping the benefits of Democrats that are really not aware. Don't get me wrong, we were all aware that there were moderate and liberal democrats, but not this PDA group riding on our coatails.

Like most moderate democrats I have never voted strictly party line. I have felt for years unfamiliar with the democrats and would have switched to being a registered independant, except for the fact I wouldn't be allowed to vote in the primaries. Now I feel completely betrayed and doubt I will ever be able to vote for another democrat. The trust is completely gone.

Now I understand more what has happened to California.

The term "Progressive" is one that has been used by Socialist and Marxist organizations for decades to promote their movements. The term "Progressive Democrats" has been used in many European countries as a means to establish; and in some cases, to re-establish Socialist and Marxist ideals. Just browse into any Socialist or Communist website that allows its content to be seen by non-members and see how often the "Progressive" term is used in their propoganda to support their democracy-destroying causes. Always remember that the Socialists and the Marxists are masters of double-speak. The Democratic Socialist Party of America has been bragging for well over a decade how they have taken over the traditional Democratic Party. The Democratic Party needs to throw those traitors out of its ranks if it is ever to be a viable, trustworthy party ever again!

Do a search for Cloward & Piven, to see who they were and what they have done and the Cloward & Piven Strategy.


You will crap your pants, especially when you see them both standing with Bill & Hilary Clinton, along with the Obamas. A picture tells 1 million words.
Scarey sh*t, I tell you.
We don't need to go down that road at all, unless you like China, or Russia.

Originally Posted by Floorguy

Do a search for Cloward & Piven, to see who they were and what they have done and the Cloward & Piven Strategy.


You will crap your pants, especially when you see them both standing with Bill & Hilary Clinton, along with the Obamas. A picture tells 1 million words.
Scarey sh*t, I tell you.
We don't need to go down that road at all, unless you like China, or Russia.

Here's just one of the searched out articles regarding Obama and the Cloward & Piven Strategy in the publication "American Thinker:"

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/ ... ategy.html

It's too lengthy to publish here, but access the website and see for yourself what we are experiencing.

Originally Posted by MontereySherry

Recently I keep hearing Democrats saying they are progressive. At first I didn't pay that much attention. I assumed my definition of progressive, which is the same as my dictionary, "One who favors progress and reform" was what they were talking about. Who doesn't support that idea, right?

Well after watching what is going on in our government and watching Glenn Beck I started doing some research on the internet.

What I find is a group of people supporting socialism. I didn't realize there actually was a party, PDA - Progressive Democrats of America. I didn't realize how they had taken over the Democratic Party in California.

They have snuck in the back door, they are not on the list of Qualified Parties in California. They are reaping the benefits of Democrats that are really not aware. Don't get me wrong, we were all aware that there were moderate and liberal democrats, but not this PDA group riding on our coatails.

Like most moderate democrats I have never voted strictly party line. I have felt for years unfamiliar with the democrats and would have switched to being a registered independant, except for the fact I wouldn't be allowed to vote in the primaries. Now I feel completely betrayed and doubt I will ever be able to vote for another democrat. The trust is completely gone.

Now I understand more what has happened to California.

Try doing some research On Saul Alinsky and see what you find...... http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communism/alinsky.htm

Originally Posted by topsecret10

Originally Posted by MontereySherry

Recently I keep hearing Democrats saying they are progressive. At first I didn't pay that much attention. I assumed my definition of progressive, which is the same as my dictionary, "One who favors progress and reform" was what they were talking about. Who doesn't support that idea, right?

Well after watching what is going on in our government and watching Glenn Beck I started doing some research on the internet.

What I find is a group of people supporting socialism. I didn't realize there actually was a party, PDA - Progressive Democrats of America. I didn't realize how they had taken over the Democratic Party in California.

They have snuck in the back door, they are not on the list of Qualified Parties in California. They are reaping the benefits of Democrats that are really not aware. Don't get me wrong, we were all aware that there were moderate and liberal democrats, but not this PDA group riding on our coatails.

Like most moderate democrats I have never voted strictly party line. I have felt for years unfamiliar with the democrats and would have switched to being a registered independant, except for the fact I wouldn't be allowed to vote in the primaries. Now I feel completely betrayed and doubt I will ever be able to vote for another democrat. The trust is completely gone.

Now I understand more what has happened to California.

Try doing some research On Saul Alinsky and see what you find...... http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communism/alinsky.htm

By the way, there are also "progressives" In the Republican party. JOHN McCAIN Is a progressive...... TS

topsecret10 wrote,

By the way, there are also "progressives" In the Republican party. JOHN McCAIN Is a progressive...... TS

Yee-haw! Keep at topsecret10. Eventually with enough help we can kick all of them out of the closet.

Progressives are like chameleons, they change their colors when it is advantageous to do so. The ends justifies the means. This is also why they will not hesitate to eat their own.

Originally Posted by roundabout

topsecret10 wrote,

By the way, there are also "progressives" In the Republican party. JOHN McCAIN Is a progressive...... TS

Yee-haw! Keep at topsecret10. Eventually with enough help we can kick all of them out of the closet.

Progressives are like chameleons, they change their colors when it is advantageous to do so. The ends justifies the means. This is also why they will not hesitate to eat their own.

Your statement Is absolutely correct.

Originally Posted by topsecret10

Originally Posted by roundabout

topsecret10 wrote,

By the way, there are also "progressives" In the Republican party. JOHN McCAIN Is a progressive...... TS

Yee-haw! Keep at topsecret10. Eventually with enough help we can kick all of them out of the closet.

Progressives are like chameleons, they change their colors when it is advantageous to do so. The ends justifies the means. This is also why they will not hesitate to eat their own.

Your statement Is absolutely correct.

Want some more proof that "progressives" are radical leftists Intent on government control......


"Don't Mourn, Organize!" This is the growing call form labor and progressive forces following the upset election in Massachusetts of Republican Scott Brown to fill Edward Kennedy's seat in the U.S. Senate.

The 52%-47% vote gives Senate Republicans, who have blocked every piece of legislation for people's needs, one more vote, threatening defeat of health care reform to which Kennedy devoted his career.

Even before the polls closed, the right-wing and the media began their spin that the President and Congress should forget their agenda and give in to Republican obstructionism
Such an approach would be a much larger disaster than the loss of one seat.

Voters were angry and looking for relief from the economic crisis, They did not see the jobs that were created from the stimulus. They feared that their health benefits would be taxed or taken away. They didn't hear Democrat Martha Coakley address their concerns, while Scott Brown used populist rhetoric and clips of JFK to claim the Kennedy legacy.

"You see," said AFL-CIO president Richard Trumka, "they believe that Wall St. is being taken care of. They believe that corporate America is being taken care of. They believe the insurers are being taken care of. But they don't think that workers are being taken care of."

The Democratic Party in Massachusetts was divided after the primary elections, adding to the inability to get out the vote. When national Republican strategists saw the opening of a weak Democratic campaign, their play book went into effect. Millions of dollars were raised on-line from around the country, utilizing the teabaggers network built up over the summer. TV airtime was filled with ads, and automated phone calls went into voters' homes.

Polls did not show that Coakley was in trouble until a couple of weeks before election day. By the time a union get-out-the-vote program was put into place, and President Obama and Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis came to campaign, it was too little too late.

Most big and medium sized cities, and the small de-industrialized towns in western Massachusetts went for Coakley, but not in large enough numbers to carry her over the top.
During the campaign, union members knocked on over 56,000 doors and made over 760,000 phone calls. The AFL-CIO sent 95,000 pieces of mail to union members homes.

A state labor leader told The Hill magazine, "If officials go running to the center like some are calling for, and away from what they campaigned on, they learned exactly the wrong lesson from this election."

AFL-CIO political director Karen Ackerman agreed. "When a candidate is strong on the issues and has a strong campaign and makes the case, the union program can turn out voters for that candidate. When the candidate is weak or hasn't been able to prove him or herself that they are fighters for working people, then it's very hard to turn people out," she said.

The anger and frustration about jobs and the economy is national. To regain momentum, big, bold, decisive actions are required that will create millions of jobs and rebuild the economy. It will take standing up to the opposition, not giving in.

An exit poll on health care conducted for Democrats for America showed that "by a margin of three-to-two, former Obama voters who voted for Republican Scott Brown said the Senate health care bill "doesn't go far enough." Six-to-one Obama voters who stayed home agreed. And to top it off, 80% of all voters still want the choice of a public option in the bill."

An AFL-CIO poll conducted by Hart Research showed that the recent Democratic compromise to tax working families health care benefits is a losing strategy. Voters who thought their health care would be taxed voted 64% for Brown in protest.

This week, as Congressional leaders consider options with the loss of the 60th vote in the Senate, the national coalition Health Care for America Now is holding press events, rallies and e-mails to "Finish Health Reform Right," according to the principles that "health care must be affordable for everyone, not tax benefits and hold insurance companies accountable with the choice of a public health insurance option."

The election in Massachusetts should not be read as a shift to the right, but rather as an indication of inconsistent thinking and flux on the part of voters in a time of hardship and the biggest wealth gap in history. It was a protest telling Democrats they must take on the opposition and deliver for people's needs.
Following upon the election of Republican Governors in New Jersey and Virginia, the Massachusetts vote is a huge warning that if the racism and demagogic populism of the right-wing is not taken on, and if the broad movement that elected President Obama is not rekindled and enlarged, the country could take a dangerous and repressive turn backward.

Since the election of President Obama, the extreme right-wing has created new organizations with the goal of bringing down the administration, winning huge gains in Congress this year, and re-taking the presidency in 2012.

People for the American Way warns that "groups like FreedomWorks which organized early Tea Party rallies and urged right wing activists to shout down and disrupt town hall meetings mobilized voters on behalf of Brown."

Following the election, John McCain reported that his group Country First conducted a direct contribution effort for Brown and sent two million e-mails seeking campaign volunteers. "We are just getting started in our fight against the catastrophic agenda the Democrats are pushing nation wide," he writes. "Country First is dedicated to electing bold leaders like Scott Brown to office...in every region of the country."

Two days after the Massachusetts vote, the Supreme Court in a five to four decision gave carte blacnche to corporate spending on election campaigns. "If this stands, you can kiss America goodbye," remarked Congressman Alan Grayson (FL- saying, "We have filed six bills to reverse this assault, the "Save Our Democracy" platform. Together, we will move these bills forward and prevent the sale of our government to the highest bidder."

Republican strategist Dick Morris was gleeful with the outcome in Massachusetts, and used that as a jumping board to imagine how each and every Democratic Senator could be defeated to create a Republican majority in this year's elections. This trumpeting as a harbinger of things to come is part of the plan to create a favorable political climate for reaction.

But these dire projections will not become reality if labor along with the African American, Latino, Asian Pacific American, women and youth voters in the first place mobilize like never before at the grass roots and push Congress and the President to take on Wall Street and deliver for jobs and economic security including direct government programs financed by cutting spending on the wars and taxing extreme wealth.

The coalition Immigration Reform FOR America urged, "don't let any of this distract you from doing your job" to organize for comprehensive immigration reform that is coming up before Congress this year. They pointed out that "Comprehensive immigration reform will add 1.5 trillion dollars to the U.S. economy, drive up wages for all workers, and support nearly a million jobs... needed to ignite support and insure turnout from Latino and independent voters."

In preparation for his State of the Union address Wednesday, President Obama visited hard hit Lorain, Ohio to address his program for economic relief. "The President isn't walking away from these challenges. In fact, his determination and resolve are only stronger," wrote Mitch Stewart, director of Organizing for America, as he called upon supporters to "match his commitment with our own."

Trumka's straightforward call to action to all working people sets the pace for the 2010 elections. "It's up to us to fight... because there's nothing more important than creating an economy that works for average working people. There's nothing more important than creating jobs, and there's nothing more important than putting our people back to work," he said. "Now's the time for us to do that. It's up to us to force both parties to fix the problems for working America."

--Joelle Fishman chairs the Political Action Commission of the Communist Party.

Sherry, I can say you are not alone in this. My father was a staunch old fashioned Democrat, my mother still is. They both were quite defensive of current politicians, and no one could get them to understand that these people are not the democrats they were used to decades ago.

It used to be that the Democratic party stood for supporting the working man. Now it uses that as it's platform, to promote something that appears to be for the average worker, but it is more about the progressive dems gaining control, not far from being socialism and/or marxism, which in the long run, hurts the average working person, it limits their future, gives them no chance to move beyond their pay scale.

In other words, the movement supresses the average worker, keeps them poor without hope, no matter what Obama said in his campaign.

Americans need to fight hard against this. Help educate those old-fashioned democrats, and blinded republicans, to see that this movement will tear this nation up.