Thread: What is a "white Hispanic" that killed the black boy?

Obama gets personal over killing of black Florida teenager

By Jeff Mason and Daniel Trotta



WASHINGTON/SANFORD, Florida | Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:03pm EDT




(Reuters) - President Barack Obama weighed into the controversial killing of a black teenager in Florida in very personal terms on Friday, comparing the boy to a son he doesn't have and calling for American "soul searching" over how the incident occurred.


Seventeen-year-old Trayvon Martin, dressed in a "hoodie" sweatshirt, was shot dead a month ago in Sanford, Florida by a 28-year-old white Hispanic neighborhood watch volunteer who said he was acting in self-defense.


"If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon," Obama said in his first comments about the shooting, acknowledging the racial element in the case.


"Obviously, this is a tragedy," Obama told reporters. "I can only imagine what these parents are going through. And when I think about this boy, I think about my own kids."


The case has rippled across the nation and prompted rallies protesting the failure of the police to arrest the shooter, George Zimmerman, and, more broadly, a pattern of racial discrimination black leaders cite in Sanford and elsewhere in the country.


Obama, the first black U.S. president, made his remarks at a White House event to announce his pick to lead the World Bank, waiting briefly after the announcement to take a reporter's question about the incident.


Martin's parents thanked the president for his words.


"The president's personal comments touched us deeply and made us wonder: If his son looked like Trayvon and wore a hoodie, would he be suspicious too?," they said in a statement.

Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law allows people to use deadly force in self-defense.


Similar laws are in effect in at least 24 states including Florida, according to the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. Calls are mounting to repeal them. Earlier this week, a Florida state senator said he was drafting new legislation to drastically change the law in Florida.


A South Carolina state representative said on Friday he had introduced a bill to repeal his state's law. Bakari Sellers, a black Democrat and gun owner, said he wanted to prevent an incident like the Trayvon Martin shooting happening in his state.


"I'm six-five and a black guy," he said. "I just know that it could have been me."

Obama said the "Stand Your Ground" laws should be studied.


"I think all of us have to do some soul-searching to figure out how does something like this happen. And that means that examine the laws and the context for what happened, as well as the specifics of the incident," he said.


"Every parent in America should be able to understand why it is absolutely imperative that we investigate every aspect of this, and that everybody pulls together -- federal, state and local -- to figure out exactly how this tragedy happened."


RACIAL DIVIDES


Obama, the son of a white mother from Kansas and black father from Kenya, is often hesitant to reflect on race, a sensitive topic in the United States, which still grapples with a legacy of slavery, segregation and discrimination.


Early in his White House tenure, Obama inflamed another racially tinged incident after that declaring police had "acted stupidly" when arresting a well-known black documentary filmmaker, Henry Louis Gates, after an altercation at his home.


He later invited Gates and the white police officer, Sergeant James Crowley, to the White House, where the men shared a drink in what became known as Obama's "beer summit."


In Sanford, Norton Bonaparte Jr., the city's manager, acknowledged that tensions between the black community and police "go back many, many years." "The trust that existed is gone, so we have to start from ground zero," he said. Sanford's police chief and a Florida state prosecutor overseeing the case stepped aside on Thursday as criticism grew over the police handling of the investigation.


The U.S. Justice Department is also investigating. Senior officials from the department met with the Martin family in Florida on Thursday, along with their lawyer. A Justice Department spokeswoman said early in the week that they must collect evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that there was intent to violate civil rights laws.


A Florida college announced it had suspended Zimmerman's enrollment.


Zimmerman was working toward an associates degree in arts at Seminole State College in Sanford. He previously earned a vocational certificate in an insurance field, the school said. "Due to the highly charged and high-profile controversy involving this student, Seminole State has taken the unusual but necessary step this week to withdraw Mr. Zimmerman from enrollment," a statement dated Thursday said.


Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, the frontrunner in the Republican race to be nominated to face Obama in the November 6 presidential election, added his voice to the issue as well.


"What happened to Trayvon Martin is a tragedy. There needs to be a thorough investigation that reassures the public that justice is carried out with impartiality and integrity," Romney said.
(additional reporting by Jeremy Pelofsky, Steve Holland, Deborah Charles, Samson Reiny, Kevin Gray, Harriet McLeod and Colleen Jenkins; editing by Mary Milliken and David Brunnstrom)

Obama gets personal over killing of black Florida teenager | Reuters




How can a college throw someone out that has not yet even been charged with, much less convicted of a crime? Another University out to punish someone over left wing reactionary politics? I mean sure, if a court finds this guy was guilty of a crime then fine throw him out of school, but throw him out of school over politics?

W

What I don't understand is why this guy felt the need to pursue the teenager. If he for some reason thought he was suspicious, he should have left it in the hands of the police. If he believed the police were not going to do anything about it, then tough luck, move on, but don't go confronting the person. It seems to me the Stanford police did not do a thorough investigation at the time of the incident. They just took his word for it that it was self defense, possibly because the victim was black, and didn't bother to do more. This police department has been shrouded in controversy before so this is nothing new and it took this unfortunate incident to bring attention to the corrupt Stanford police.

I want to know why they are trying to make the shooter out to be white when he is not. This was a Hispanic and black encounter, not a white and black encounter.

W

Originally Posted by ALIPAC

I want to know why they are trying to make the shooter out to be white when he is not. This was a Hispanic and black encounter, not a white and black encounter.

W

Uhh... Hispanic is an ethnicity right? I believe we had an interesting discussion on this matter here before on the racial diversity of Hispanics. Some people here are Hispanics and shared their insight in this thread:

http://www.alipac.us/f9/today-yahoo-...89/index3.html


George's father is White and possibly his mother Hispanic, but her race is something else entirely. She could very well be "Mestizo" or "White" or even "Black". So technically he is a White Hispanic.

Originally Posted by googler

Uhh... Hispanic is an ethnicity right? I believe we had an interesting discussion on this matter here before on the racial diversity of Hispanics. Some people here are Hispanics and shared their insight in this thread:

http://www.alipac.us/f9/today-yahoo-...89/index3.html


George's father is White and possibly his mother Hispanic, but her race is something else entirely. She could very well be "Mestizo" or "White" or even "Black". So technically he is a White Hispanic.

Whatever. All you have to do is look at the guys picture. He is latino, hispanic, or metizo (whatever the hell that is). All I know is that as a white person I am sick of taking the heat on this one. The hispanics own this mess.

Originally Posted by pattyk

Whatever. All you have to do is look at the guys picture. He is latino, hispanic, or metizo (whatever the hell that is). All I know is that as a white person I am sick of taking the heat on this one. The hispanics own this mess.

In the thread I linked too, Hispanics on this board discussed the various differences and races within the Hispanic community. So if you don't know what Mestizo is, you are free to read up. I agree though, this guy looks like a Mestizo to me though. Apart from having a White father and White name, I'm assuming the media is going with "White" because he indicated to the police as so.

I've yet to see this made into a "blame" the Whites issue though. From what I've seen and read, everyone is pretty upset with the police department and George. The police department for its ineptitude and George for being suspicious of the innocent teenager.

'Hispanic' is an ethnicity, not to be confused with a 'race.' On their birth certificates in the U.S., all Hispanics race are listed as 'White.'

Obama is feeding the fortunes of Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton and feeding the fires of racial hatred from the highest public elected office in the United States government.

Anybody surprised he would do this? Desperate powerful men do desperately powerful things, especially to either get or stay in power.

I don't know what happened that night, I wasn't there. We don't have all the facts either, only what the media has chosen for us to know. All I see is a national lynching where the shooter has been tried and convicted by media blurbs. He may very well be guilty, as I said, I do not know, but until he has a trial, I thought in this country we were innocent until proven guilty, not simply guilty because public opinion of the barely informed decreed it to be so.

The fact that Obama commented at all about this shows his true intentions of bringing racial division into the elections this time too! The Police told Zimmerman to "stand down" and he instead followed this kid until the kid felt threatened and confronted Zimmerman!

Obama will order one of his liberal judges to drop any action against Zimmerman and that will be the beginning of the end!

Sharpton is already making it a white on black hate crime scenario!

There are Hispanic whites (from their Spanish ancestors) and non-Hispanic whites (no ancestors from Spain). Zimmerman was the former but I don't see any of the left wing blogs mentioning that. Just goes to show the biasness of the left.