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    The Reconquista Movement has about as much possibility of success as the Klan did--cynicism and reactionary racism will NEVER succeed to change anything: We need the support of Jews, Muslims, Christians, and all other creeds, races, and the focus needs to stay on:

    1. The economical impact of illegal immigration;

    2. And the importation by the cartels of the Culture of Criminality.

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    You are correct; but to react to racism with more racism is not going to succeed in convincing the majority of US citizens to support stronger illegal immigrant laws, WE MUST STEER CLEAR FROM BIGOTRY.
    I guess I'm not quite sure what's being said that's bigoted and judgemental.

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    What would He say?
    I think he would say "hurry up with that cross..."

    [quote]10 “You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.â€

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    Jesus would render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, and unto God what is God's.
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    The point trying to be made is that when the illegal aliens go about claiming a piece of the American pie under the guise of the goodness of Christianity, along with the politicians promoting it by trying to sound pious, both are lying, neither care about the truth in the Bible, and how God, numerous times warns us all to follow the laws of the nation we are in. The illegal aliens are far from this, of course we have known all along the politcians in DC fall well under this without even a thought .

    I cannot speak about a persons belief, or their relationship with God. However, I have seen an emergence of these churches that most plainly see are populated with illegal aliens. These people (hopefully) have come to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, however, and that is a big however, if that is true, then they would be desiring to please God in all aspects and make their illegal status right. The true nature of someone being "saved" (redeemed spiritually) is their desire to do things right. The drinker wishes to stop drinking (as God eschews a drunk and says to be sober, vigilant), the drug addict wishes to clean up, the prostitute wishes to stop fornicating, the thief wishes to stop stealing, etc...

    So if someone was here illegally, and then was given redemption through Jesus Christ, wouldn't they want to make their illegal status right? The breaking of the laws is displeasing to God, so a true born again believer should want to make that right. This is why people question these churches that cater to the illegal alien populations (why don't they preach about obedience to the governmental laws that are from a government that God put in place?).
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    Another thing that tips their hand: they complain that a big chunk of our land was and is rightfully theirs. But they're not coming here to visit Yellowstone or the Grand Canyon. They're coming here for the man-made amenities provided by us citizen taxpayers. The economy, the benefits, the living conditions. Not the redwoods, the fishing lakes, or a hike in the Rockies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanElizabeth
    The point trying to be made is that when the illegal aliens go about claiming a piece of the American pie under the guise of the goodness of Christianity, along with the politicians promoting it by trying to sound pious, both are lying, neither care about the truth in the Bible, and how God, numerous times warns us all to follow the laws of the nation we are in. The illegal aliens are far from this, of course we have known all along the politcians in DC fall well under this without even a thought .

    I cannot speak about a persons belief, or their relationship with God. However, I have seen an emergence of these churches that most plainly see are populated with illegal aliens. These people (hopefully) have come to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, however, and that is a big however, if that is true, then they would be desiring to please God in all aspects and make their illegal status right. The true nature of someone being "saved" (redeemed spiritually) is their desire to do things right. The drinker wishes to stop drinking (as God eschews a drunk and says to be sober, vigilant), the drug addict wishes to clean up, the prostitute wishes to stop fornicating, the thief wishes to stop stealing, etc...

    So if someone was here illegally, and then was given redemption through Jesus Christ, wouldn't they want to make their illegal status right? The breaking of the laws is displeasing to God, so a true born again believer should want to make that right. This is why people question these churches that cater to the illegal alien populations (why don't they preach about obedience to the governmental laws that are from a government that God put in place?).
    1. The government that God placed was usurped before the ink was dry. It is not against Gods word to stand against the usurpers...in fact it is by both God law and the Declaration of Independence.

    2. Government and religion elevate themselves above civilians and God. They use people for their own agenda and profit.

    3. The IA care not about man or God laws. They use gov. and churches to advance their own agenda. It is symbiotic by nature.

    4. Flowery "the way it should be" talk is not going to work to address the problem. Pacifism/complacency ends up on a cross. That makes for cool symbolism but I don't want to be the one that is symbolic thank you! Christ died so that we can live...and protect what is our birth right!

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    I would hardly call it flowery talk. I do not know many Christians that are pacifist, most are gun owners, most believe firmly in our Constitutional rights, and all believe in fighting for what they know is right and what is ours to fight, for, this country.

    As for our current government and the issue of them being usurpers, sure, all of us here can agree on that. We have an obligation to work within the bounds that is the laws we have through the Constitution. We must beat them at their own game, but not by being either underhanded and sleezy, nor by actions that puts us into the same category as the cartels and the illegal aliens who have perpetrated crimes on Americans.

    It is called taking the higher road, and doing all we can that is lawful, right and above all else, with the most integrity we can muster. Then we know we can rightfully claim what God has set aside for us.

    You also make claims all churches are basically no different than governments, which is not true, many Americans belong to independent fundamental churches, who answer only to each other, and not one person within that congregation is more important than the rest, even up to the pastor. No one person owns a church, or should we say, should own a church, although we know there are corrupted and polluted churches and religions. But you cannot generalize, just as you cannot about a race of people. Some good, some bad, sort them out appropriately.
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    It's so great to hear patriotic Americans speaking out on behalf of God.

    Thank you.


    The misuse God’s Churches by illegal aliens:

    If anyone is pushing their religion on any other ones, then Hillary Clinton, Nancy Palosi, Janet Murguia (la raza), and the like are leading the pack in doing so for the purpose of their political agendas surrounding their beloved illegal aliens.

    What a horrible example of “leadershipâ€

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    Some good, some bad, sort them out appropriately.


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    That was me!

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