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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    LOL!! No one said they had been notified, or consulted or even contacted, JD2. . .
    I didn't write any of the articles

    and I didn't write any comments

    so what are you going on about?
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    Your news sources calling up the states when the memo doesn't indicate any contact with the states. They get wind from the AP that the federal government might have a mission involving the National Guard that was illegally leaked to AP, and the other media call the states to find out if it's true, then print stories about it? If it were true, and some of the states are actually involved, would the states tell the media?

    It's just funny to me, because if it's true, the federal government isn't going to tell anyone because it's a secret, and no state would have authority to discuss it with the media on a federal mission without permission from the federal government.

    I guess it's been so long since we've actually had a real mission that a lot of people don't know how they get done. They don't get done talking about them to the media. I'm sure that's why some pro-illegal alien traitor in the DHS leaked the memo to try to thwart it.

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    Republican governor: 'Serious constitutional concerns' about deploying the National Guard for immigration enforcement




    Foreign nationals are arrested in Los Angeles during a targeted enforcement operation conducted in February by Immigration and Customs Enforcement aimed at immigration fugitives, re-entrants, and at-large criminal aliens.US Immigration and Customs Enforcement via Associated Press

    Republican governors said they had "concerns" about a Friday Associated Press report regarding a leaked draft memo written by the Department of Homeland Security that proposed mobilizing as many as 100,000 National Guard troops to round up and deport unauthorized immigrants.


    The draft of the memo, which appeared to have been written by DHS Secretary John Kelly, mentioned mobilizing National Guard troops in 11 states as far north as Oregon.

    State governors could choose whether they wanted their National Guard troops to participate, according to the memo.


    Republican governors were quick to react to the report on Friday morning.


    "While we haven’t had any contact from the Administration in regard to this issue, I would have concerns about the utilization of National Guard resources for immigration enforcement with the current deployment responsibilities our guardsmen have overseas," Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson told Business Insider.


    "During my time at Homeland Security, we utilized National Guard partnerships for specific responsibilities along the border, so the concept is fine, but it's a matter of resources," said Hutchinson, who served under President George W. Bush as the undersecretary for border transportation and security under after 9/11. "In Arkansas, I believe it would be too much of a strain on our National Guard personnel."


    Utah Gov. Gary Herbert told Business Insider that "while we cannot speculate as to what may be requested via official channels in the future, we have serious constitutional concerns about activating the National Guard to provide the mentioned services and the potential financial impacts of doing so."

    Members of the National Guard talk to Hurricane Katrina holdouts in New Orleans on September 11, 2005. Brian Snyder/REUTERS

    Mari St. Martin, the communications director for Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval, told Business Insider that it hadn't been contacted by DHS regarding the draft memo.


    "It's premature to comment on potential actions regarding the Nevada National Guard and its citizen-soldiers based entirely on a draft memo and outside speculation," St. Martin said. "The governor said earlier this morning that he didn't think it was an appropriate use of the guard."


    John Wittman, the press secretary for the Texas governor's office, told Business Insider: "The Office of the Governor has not received, much less seen, a memo or request from the White House or Department of Homeland Security regarding the use of Texas National Guard troops for immigration enforcement. ... The White House has adamantly denied there are efforts underway to mobilize the National Guard for this purpose."


    The Louisiana governor's office told Business Insider that it hadn't been contacted by the Trump administration regarding the memo. The Oklahoma governor's office told Business Insider that it would be "premature to discuss" the memo, as the office hasn't seen the document. The Colorado governor's office also told Business Insider it hadn't been contacted by the Trump administration.


    A DHS representative told Business Insider that the AP report was "incorrect," and that the department was "not considering mobilizing the National Guard for immigration enforcement."


    Sean Spicer, President Donald Trump's press secretary, called the AP's reporting "false" and "irresponsible" on Friday morning.

    Sean Spicer. Kevin Lamarque/Getty Images

    "It is irresponsible to be saying this," Spicer said, according to a pool report. "There is no effort at all to round up — to utilize the National Guard to round up illegal immigrants. I wish you guys had asked before you tweeted."


    An AP reporter said that the wire service had requested comment from the White House multiple times before publishing. Spicer, meanwhile, said he didn't know if the draft memo had been considered by the DHS and that he knew of "no effort to do what is potentially suggested."


    Another DHS official told Cox Media producer Dorey Scheimer that the immigration memo was "a very early, pre-decisional draft ... and was never seriously considered by the department."


    Reaz Jafri, an immigration expert and a partner at Withers Bergman, told Business Insider on Friday morning that the DHS memo would be "subject to immediate legal challenges" because it would allow the National Guard to perform the function of Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials — including the "apprehension and detention of individuals that have committed no crime and may otherwise have a legal basis, under our immigration laws, to be in the US."


    Claude Arnold, a former ICE special agent who now works for Frontier Solutions, a Virginia-based crisis-management firm, told Business Insider that using the National Guard to enforce immigration laws is not "legally or practically feasible."


    Arnold pointed to the Posse Comitatus Act, a federal law that limits the power of military personnel to enforce domestic policies — like immigration laws — within the US. However, Arnold said that under the Bush Administration, National Guard forces were deployed along borders to act as "eyes and ears," and provide supplementary equipment to assist CBP officials.


    The Trump administration has signed executive orders increasing the scope and abilities of both ICE and Customs and Border Protection officials to detain unauthorized immigrants. Trump himself said during the campaign that he would create a "deportation force" to round up unauthorized immigrants.


    Business Insider has reached out to the governors' offices in the 11 states affected by this memo and will update this story as we hear back.


    http://www.businessinsider.com/repub...on-memo-2017-2
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    LOL!! UTAH ... funny. Any time there's a policy they don't like because their donors don't like it, they have "constitutional concerns". There is nothing more appropriate constitutionally than using the National Guard to stop invasions and remove the invaders.
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    MW:
    I tried to find at least one article as a response from each state.
    If you see any better one's please post them or let me know and I'll post them.
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    Put the troops on the border for a 24-month deployment. If Trump doesn't think that the African's, the Cuban's, the Haitian's, the terrorists, the Cartel, and every other disease infected 3rd world peasant does not have a plan to STORM our border then you are brain dead.

    Look at what is happening in Spain. 100 Sub-Saharan African's jump the fence, they think "cool" we got in...now it is FIVE HUNDRED doing it. Next it will be ONE THOUSAND. Spain had better get their game plan on.

    This border is the BIG GAPING HOLE in our security and somebody had better get their head out of their butt and get military operations down there! And do it now.

    Mexico is NOT our friend. Now they have their incumbent "President" doing rallies on OUR soil in Los Angeles inciting violence and hate. Are you kidding me? Where is the FBI, they should have hauled him off and escorted him out of here.
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    You can put Army on the borders and use the National Guard to clean house in the interior. That's what I would do, along with using state and local law enforcement agencies who want to solve the problems in their communities.
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    Well...people have disregarded Judy's posts that this is all about the drug money...people on the take, the collusion...follow the dots. Even in our own Government. This is exactly what it is and it is deep.

    We need to shut Mexico down. Our stupid politicians have sold us out for 50 years, and Mexico has taken advantage of that flooding our country with their Trojan Horse of gangs, drugs, terrorists, illegals, diseases and financial costs associated with it. All the while sticking their hands out for more "foreign aid". LOL...cut it all off. Stupid Gringo's.

    Now they have the nerve to campaign on OUR soil for their elections!

    HAVING A "HEART" HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. LOCK DOWN THE BORDER AND GET THEM OUT!
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    Thank you Beezer! Yes, it's all about the drugs and related criminal enterprises, getting them in, getting the money out, laundering the money, and running the operations, making the sales without getting caught, buying protection to be sure you aren't caught or nothing much happens when you are, build a base, networks, bribes, all of it, based on work by day as a cover and run the drugs at night.
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