Thread: William: Question about McCain Win Vs Loss

True for all six.

I too think there is something terribly wrong with the election results. Surely there are not that many uninformed and uncaring Americans, that would vote for mccain. I also think many illegals must be voting, along with legals pushing amnesty.

It's like there is a master plan, and it's all being played out just as written.

It's like there is a master plan, and it's all being played out just as written.

I agree, however I do not think they factored in that WE THE PEOPLE are NOT going to just stand idly by and let them have their way!!! They have not seen anything yet!!! WHen PUSH comes the SHOVE the American people are a FORCE to be RECKONED WITH!

Originally Posted by April

It's like there is a master plan, and it's all being played out just as written.

The Power Elite always have a Master Plan, with several options listed as how to achieve it.

True on all of the above!

Originally Posted by ALIPAC

Friends,

I have my thinking cap on today. Let me ask you a question and try to respond true / false if possible.

Do you agree with the following?

1. True/False?

The pro illegal alien pundits are all crowing today that John McCain's win is due to the Hispanic vote. They also say that his win shows that the illegal immigration issue is all bark and no bite due to his example. They also claim that Mitt Romney and others lost the Hispanic vote for addressing the issue of illegal immigration.

2. If John McCain goes on to win the Presidency, he will be beholden to the illegal alien supporters for his victory while in the White House.

3. If John McCain wins the Presidency, his success will be attributed to the 'Hispanic Vote" because of his pro amnesty positions.

4. If John McCain loses in November, then we have a chance at pointing out that he won the primary but lost the general election because he was wrong on immigration and pro amnesty.

5. If Conservative Voters get behind McCain despite his immigration stances, the message will be to candidates that you can get away with being pro amnesty as a Republican and there will be no incentive for change in the Republican Party.

6. If John McCain fails to win and his loss is blamed on his immigration stances then there will be incentives in the future for change on this issue in the Republican Party.

Your answers True False or ? to 1-6

W

1) TRUE. They are saying this, but it is definitely not true. McCain won ONLY because Independents and Democrats were voting for him----because he would be the easiest for the Dems to beat. In closed primary states, especially Florida and California----I believe that illegals were also voting ("today we march, tomorrow we vote"). If Huckabee would have dropped out, Romney would have won. If you think about it, Romney won almost just as many states as McCain--except that McCain won more "winner take all" states.

2) TRUE. However, I definitely do not believe that McCain is going to win. There are too many people who have said that they will not vote for McCain----and some even prefer Hillary in the White House over McCain!! Someone on another site brought up a VERY good point. If the Republicans lose the election----the RNC is going to want to kiss conservative butt in order to win back a lot of their supporters. If Hillary would try to push amnesty----there is a good chance that the Republicans will group together and try to block any efforts at this. However, if McCain was trying to push amnesty----a lot of these same Republicans might support him in doing this!!!

3) TRUE. I agree that they might try to use this. However, I do not think that McCain is going to win-----not running on a platform that we should be in Iraq for 100 years-----and fearing that he will start something with Iran.

4) TRUE. On Hannity and many other shows---it has been proven time and time again----that McCain did not win the conservative voters----even in Arizona!!! His pro-illegal and amnesty positions will cause many voters to stay home instead of voting for him. The boo videos of him during CPAC---when he began talking about illegals can be used as proof of this.

5) TRUE. They will definitely "attempt" to use this. However, I do not think that he is going to win. And, if he loses.......The media will be saying "he did not win, because he could never win over the conservative voters due to his positions regarding illegals and amnesty---as well as other issues." Therefore, it is obvious that the conservative voters did not support and vote for him.

6)TRUE. If McCain loses----the RNC is going to be kissing conservative butt in order to try to win back those voters/supporters. I think that Mel Martinez is a perfect example of this-----as there were so many people calling and complaining to the RNC about him after Comprehensive Immigration Reform----that I believe that they "encouraged" him to resign.

Someone brought up a good point on another site. At first, I did not believe it, but now I am starting to believe it.

They said that the RNC was not really concerned about putting up/supporting a "serious" candidate for the election this year------because they already felt that they were going to lose this election due to Iraq, Bush's unpopularity, etc. I think that McCain and Huckabee kind of prove this point. They felt that their only "hope" was Guliani-----and when all of the corruption/dirt started surfacing about him-----they knew that their chances were now ZERO. I don't think that they ever expected to have another great candidate like Romney step into the picture at this time.

1. Not enough information to determine. According to what I have read, the hispanic vote has been leaning more towards Hillary and Obama, and maybe John McCain got some too, but I doubt it was even 30% in some states. If there was any way to count the number of votes per race, I'm sure that Hillary and Obama got way more than John McCain. Honestly, do we even know WHO voted for John McCain?
2. True
3. True
4. True
5. True
6. True

I'm really hoping we are all going to unify and do something about this sham of a primary process. Less than 1/2 the states of our country got to cast a vote.

Originally Posted by loservillelabor

5. If Conservative Voters get behind McCain despite his immigration stances, the message will be to candidates that you can get away with being pro amnesty as a Republican and there will be no incentive for change in the Republican Party.

Conservatives don't have a choice. They must support McCain to defend from the radical Islamist threat/communism while at the same time selecting an amnesty candidate. We were just outmaneuvered here. The Republicans are willing to give it a shot without the base. McCain is probably not electable imho, but would be the candidate of choice in the event of military or actual terrorist activity against the United States if ya get my drift. The global clowns are committed. We must force them into even more radical action out in the open.

For right now let's see that Mary Peters goes before Congress and then to jail.

No, sorry. I am more afraid of the socialists and the globalists than I am 46 people who live in caves on the other side of the world.

1. False. I do not think Hispanics vote in significant numbers. I cold be wrong though.
2. False, because I don't think the illegals actually won him the election.
3. True, because that's the corporate owned media laughing at us.
4. True
5. Absolutely true.
6. True.

Hi guys it is (AmericanElizabeth), long story short, got DSL, tried to change my new email on my account and something went haywire, so I temporarily signed in as AE until it hopefully can be fixed.

Anyways, about McCain. IF he gets the nomination, yes the OBL will crow about them being the reason, due to getting out the "Hispanic" vote (we all know it would be truthfully from illegal votes and votes from those who morally support them), and they will definitely expect something from him.

If McCain loses in November, then we will be left with either Hillary or Obama, not something I feel too good about, even a bit nauseous. Does this mean I WANT McCain just because he is Republican and what seems to be the better chance (note, I did not say BEST)? Not at all. I wold prefer to see someone else get the nomination, and I know, this is a far out hope right now, but we never know. If he loses, will it mean we can say "I told you so"? Not so sure, the joke may end up being on us, and I think the OBL crowds know this.

So: 1: True, it is possible they are claiming this
2: Possibly, hate to say yes though
3: False, I do not think they have enough numbers to get him in solely based on their vote, I think many Republican will vote just because of being Republican.
4: True, but yet then what will we be left with?
5: Could be true
6: Could be true

Originally Posted by AE

Hi guys it is (AmericanElizabeth), long story short, got DSL, tried to change my new email on my account and something went haywire, so I temporarily signed in as AE until it hopefully can be fixed.

Anyways, about McCain. IF he gets the nomination, yes the OBL will crow about them being the reason, due to getting out the "Hispanic" vote (we all know it would be truthfully from illegal votes and votes from those who morally support them), and they will definitely expect something from him.

If McCain loses in November, then we will be left with either Hillary or Obama, not something I feel too good about, even a bit nauseous. Does this mean I WANT McCain just because he is Republican and what seems to be the better chance (note, I did not say BEST)? Not at all. I wold prefer to see someone else get the nomination, and I know, this is a far out hope right now, but we never know. If he loses, will it mean we can say "I told you so"? Not so sure, the joke may end up being on us, and I think the OBL crowds know this.

So: 1: True, it is possible they are claiming this
2: Possibly, hate to say yes though
3: False, I do not think they have enough numbers to get him in solely based on their vote, I think many Republican will vote just because of being Republican.
4: True, but yet then what will we be left with?
5: Could be true
6: Could be true

Wierd. I just thought about you two days ago wondering where you went. Glad to see your back!