Thread: You want to see a scarry immigration bill? HR 4321

You want to see a scarry bill? Take a look at this monster...especially the provisions for military boarder protection.
HR 4321
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtex ... =h111-4321

SEC. 131. PROHIBITION ON MILITARY INVOLVEMENT IN NONEMERGENCY BORDER ENFORCEMENT.

(a) In General- The Armed Forces of the United States, including the National Guard, are prohibited from assisting in Federal, State and local and civilian law enforcement of immigration laws.

(b) Exception- The Armed Forces of the United States, including the National Guard may assist in Federal, State and local and civilian law enforcement of immigration laws when the President of the United States has declared a national emergency or when required for specific counter-terrorism duties. In the case that, Armed Forces of the United States, including the National Guard are required to perform such duties, those duties in support of Federal, State and local and civilian law enforcement of immigration laws shall be limited to--

(1) rear echelon support duties, including logistical support, construction, and intelligence collection from positions at least 25 miles from the border;

(2) nonarmed operations within 25 miles of the border, including listening posts and observation post operations; and

(3) armed operations outside 25 miles of the border, including listening posts and observation post operations.

(c) Report- The Secretary shall submit on an annual basis a report to Congress that details the involvement of the Armed Forces in border security and the enforcement of Federal immigration laws.

Judging by the list of co sponsors this appears to have come out of the House Progressive Caucus. Hopefully more than a few of them will get replaced this November. But, you are right, this is a very dangerous bill, let's see if NumbersUSA has had, or will have, any alerts about it.

Originally Posted by Captainron

Judging by the list of co sponsors this appears to have come out of the House Progressive Caucus. Hopefully more than a few of them will get replaced this November. But, you are right, this is a very dangerous bill, let's see if NumbersUSA has had, or will have, any alerts about it.

i bet it had help from the hispanic caucus, too

I think HR 4321 is THE companion to the proposal Schumer is working on in the Senate.

Refers to non-emergency. We have an emergency, folks, between the invaders and the drug cartels, and no way can they prove otherwise.

Originally Posted by Captainron

Judging by the list of co sponsors this appears to have come out of the House Progressive Caucus. Hopefully more than a few of them will get replaced this November. But, you are right, this is a very dangerous bill, let's see if NumbersUSA has had, or will have, any alerts about it.

I haven't received any alerts about it.
I've been with NumbersUSA for 4-5 years now.

If I get one I'll post it.

you compare........
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/news/ ... tid=191615

What a joke...go in the link and see the size of this bill! they had to be working on this behind closed doors for a long time just glancing at it they have amended the hell out of the Immigration nationality act and most of it you can't understand....Health care bill has nothing on this piece of crap.

What is a worry is the last it moved was 3/1/2010...Scary...although alot of bills die in committee there is alot of work on this to just let it die!

H.R.4321
Title: CIR ASAP Act of 2009
Sponsor: Rep Ortiz, Solomon P. [TX-27] (introduced 12/15/2009) Cosponsors (97)
Related Bills: H.R.4259, H.R.4470, S.2910, S.2974, S.3029
Latest Major Action: 3/1/2010 Referred to House subcommittee. Status: Referred to the Subcommittee on Immigration, Citizenship, Refugees, Border Security, and International Law.


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Originally Posted by mkfarnam

you compare........
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/news/ ... tid=191615

That bill is in the Senate...this other one is a House bill and it is enormous .