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    Zeezil's diatribe

    In my humble opinion, I don’t see how any illegal alien invader could ever claim to be of “good moral characterâ€
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    Don't Clinton's judges just get under your skin and mess with your nerves. Where is the common sense?

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    Re: Zeezil's diatribe

    [quote="zeezil"]In my humble opinion, I don’t see how any illegal alien invader could ever claim to be of “good moral characterâ€
    No need for ‘mass roundups’, simply ENFORCE EXISTING law*& MANDATE the worker ID, ..but SEVEN amnesties? Hmm, WHO cried wolf?!

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    Thank you, Zeezil. President Bush always sounded very foolish when he would stand there saying, "family values", "just good people", "doing the jobs Americans won't do".

    Most people looked at him and thought, either you're promoting illegal immigration or you're too naive to be president. I think we now know that it wasn't the second one.
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    it is stupid statements like Bill Oreilly's statement to Mex President Fox to the effect that he "would do it if he were a poor Mexican"....

    did our forefathers and parents not teach us that we "obey the law, even unpopular laws, until and unless they are changed through the democratic process"?

    nothing justifies breaking another country's laws, especially if you claim to "love America" and/or you want to become "American"... of course, both claims are mostly not true among these socalled "immigrants"... especially those who wish to be "dual-citizen"....
    No soy de los que se dicen 'la raza'... Am not one of those racists of "The Race"

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    Regarding the Dream Act, the children may not have known at a young age that they were snuck into our country illegally, but they know now that they are here illegally. As has been pointed out a million times, they should not focus their anger at American taxpayers and citizens who have been so generous as zeezil points out -- it wasn't us who put them in their predicament.

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    it is stupid statements like Bill Oreilly's statement to Mex President Fox to the effect that he "would do it if he were a poor Mexican"....
    What an idiot!
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    Let's put it in persepective.

    520,000 Malawians on 'watch list' for possible starvation
    http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5j-s ... QQtENqJz_A

    That's desperation.
    They can't swim or walk over our border. Malawi is a poor country, Mexico is a RICH country.
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    I think history illustrates that our ancestors were nomadic. If it weren't for adventurous, nomadic spirits like the immigrants who came to America from England, none of us would be here. So YES, America is a nation that was founded by immigrants.

    And YES, there were people already occupying this land; but as history states, humans settled all over this earth in just about the same way: they battled, conquered and occupied. That's the way things happened. It's a fact, so get over it.

    Europeans occupied the U.S. over 2 1/2 centuries ago. The so-called indigenous people (who, in fact were not indigenous) who were already here, were unable to maintain their dominance here. Again, that's history. It's just the way it was.

    Does it mean that modern living Americans of European ancestry are evil? Of course not. First of all, it was the way of the world to battle, barter and trade for dominance of territories. So what the Europeans did when they came to America was quite natural.

    Second, our European ancestors did not land on the banks of a modern, democratic society with a free-market capitalistic economy, a thriving middle-class, advanced medicine, wonderful bustling cities, great universities, and a pioneering space program. Rather, our ancestors landed on the banks of a rmostly empty and unexplored land, with uncrossable mountains, unswimmable rivers, fierce cold and searing heat. They sweated, labored and even died to build this country into what it is today.

    So when the Mestizos who flood here by the thousands every day, claim they have a right to be in our great country because we stole it from them centuries ago, they are guilty of the worst sort of babbling possible. They're misguided and and completely off base.
    Calderon was absolutely right when he said...."Where there is a Mexican, there is Mexico".

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    Quote Originally Posted by miguelina
    Let's put it in persepective.

    520,000 Malawians on 'watch list' for possible starvation
    http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5j-s ... QQtENqJz_A

    That's desperation.
    They can't swim or walk over our border. Malawi is a poor country, Mexico is a RICH country.
    A late welcome aboard to you miguelina (sorry to be SO late...)

    Yes, and I'd just offer a thought along with the same line of reasoning.... that is, that many of the countries now experiencing great difficulty in providing basic support for large populations, it is entirely possible that these same countries have governments that were genuinely democratically elected and are less corrupt (than, say Mexico as an example). Of course, I do hope the people at risk in Malawi get the help they need to survive too. Mexico, by contrast, has a relatively great ability to deal with poverty, starvation, etc - much more so than many other poorer countries. The poverty and starvation which exist in Mexico are largely problems rooted in gross inequity, endemic corruption, and a non-functioning taxation system. These are all problems which implicate the government - and no other person or group.
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