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June 12, 2012

The Not Taxed Nearly Enough Party

Posted by Thomas DiLorenzo on June 12, 2012 07:26 AM

I speak of course of the Republicans as well as the Democrats who together form The Party of Government. Baby Bush (a.k.a. "Jeb," brother of "Dub-Yuh," endorser of Willard) whines and cries that there are elements of the Republican Party today who believe they are taxed enough already and oppose further tax increases.

He cannot stand the fact that there are people who question the notion that prosperity is created by taking money from hard-working taxpayers and giving it to government bureaucrats to spend (That's called "Keynesian economics" to those readers who have not studied economics).

He gratuitously praises his father for reneging on his "Read My Lips, No New Taxes" promise (which caused him to lose the election to Bill Clinton), and his brother Dub-Yuh for raising taxes, expanding the welfare state, and becoming an even bigger domestic spender than Lyndon Johnson was.

Such talk is bound to get "Jeb" what he wants — coverage in the New York Times and Washington Post calling him a "statesman." He may even get a favorable mention by Paul Krugman, which would surely send a chill up his leg.

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Guest Post: The ‘Lesser Of Two Evils’ Con-Game



Submitted by Tyler Durden on 06/12/2012 10:29 -040
Submitted by Brandon Smith from Alt-Market

The ‘Lesser Of Two Evils’ Con-Game



The moral relativism of the “lesser of two evils” philosophy has been draining the heart and soul of America for decades. Many of us in the Liberty Movement understand that it is nothing new, and have come to expect the abusive and emaciated logic it entails from time to time. However, over the course of the past year it has become apparent to me that the talking points and propaganda that drive the hypocritical worldview are being utilized on an even grander scale than ever before. This fact struck me quite sharply while attending a local GOP Lincoln/Reagan dinner event while I was attempting to gauge the overall danger our country would be facing from potential RINO (Republican In Name Only) sellouts as well as what our hopes were for a possible political solution at the local and state level. The “conservative” rally was, to say the least, disappointing.

One thing that stood out plainly at this event, though, was that there was an overall template; an action plan, a message that had been pre-engineered. Someone had sent out a memo, or an email, or a guide, or perhaps beamed talking points directly into the cyborg brains of these political hacks. Their rhetoric was repetitive and uniform and dry like elbow skin. The demand was clearly stated; regardless of who won the Republican Primaries, no matter how unprincipled, how unconstitutional, how despicable, it was our “duty” as conservatives to back them through the national elections. Obama and the Democrats had to be defeated at all costs…

Now, one of the first tenets or rules that a person learns when delving into the Liberty Movement is that there is no such thing as political parties in America today. There are no conflicting interests in Washington D.C. There is no “grand battle” between left and right for the minds of the masses.

It is a sham. A con. A fantasy. A false paradigm.

In reality, the leaderships of both fraudulent parties support essentially the same methodology, and that methodology could be summarized thus: Centralize everything, globalize everything, control everything, grow government power, reduce the effectiveness of the citizenry, turn the public against each other, rob them while they’re distracted. If an American does not understand this dynamic and how it is used to dominate the ebb and flow of our culture, then that American knows nothing. He is lost…

Sadly, even those of us who should very well know better than to fall into the false left/right paradigm trap do so on occasion, as has been made painfully obvious by the foolhardy actions of Rand Paul and his blank check endorsement of Mitt Romney. Certainly, this epic blunder, which seems to me to be a blind stab at political maneuvering on the part of Ron Paul’s son, has set off an angry firestorm amongst true Constitutionalists who know every lie Mitt Romney has ever told. People are using words like “betrayal”, and “traitor”, and with good reason, but let’s look at this calamity from the other side of things for a moment…

There are others out there who would applaud Rand Paul’s decision. While many of them will openly admit that they do not feel very secure in the shadow of a Romney presidency, they still rationalize their position by making the “lesser of two evils” argument. “America may be going off the edge of a cliff”, they say, “but at least Romney won’t press the gas peddle as hard as Obama”. Here are just a few of the many reasons why this way of thinking will lead to the end of our society as we know it…

Lesser Of Two Evils? There’s No Such Thing…

First of all, asserting that there is such a thing as a “lesser of two evils” is an act of naivety. It relies on a very dangerous assumption; that one can somehow quantify which candidate is going to hurt the country less. I’ve even read essays by people who pretend they can mathematically delineate the “more evil” of the evils! Not surprisingly, their “logic” invariably leads them to proclaim the lesser evil to be the candidate of the party they happen to belong to. Ignorant Republicans always see the Democrat as the greater evil, while ignorant Democrats always see the Republican as the ultimate monster.

Here’s some math for you: there are two candidates for President of the United States, one is a cannibalistic serial killer who plans to murder 20 more people with his own hands while in office. The other is a cannibalistic serial killer who only plans to kill 19 innocents personally. Which candidate do you support?

The correct answer is NEITHER.

Unless you are a fan of murder, there is no inherent difference between these two demonic bureaucrats. They both stand in opposition to the guiding principles of inborn conscience, as well as the protections provided by the laws of free people. The fact that one man will do slightly less damage during his reign is irrelevant. Is a choice between Stalin and Hitler, for instance, really a choice at all? Which one is the "lesser evil" in this equation?

Some may argue that this comparison is a bit over the top. I beg to differ. Presidents have the power not only to maim and kill en mass, but they also have the power to dismantle the laws which protect our civil liberties. To drive the point home as far as Romney and Obama are concerned, let’s watch the following video, which removes the blinders and exposes these two charlatans for what they really are; two peas in a pod:



A refusal to vote, or a vote for a third party, is not a vote for Obama, or a vote for Romney, but a vote against the charade.
There is no such thing as a “lesser evil”. Either a candidate follows the path of truth and honor, or he does not. If he does, he deserves our support. If he does not, or if both candidates are criminals, then they both must be tossed to the wayside. Just because the system has deliberately limited our choices does not mean we are required to participate in the flim-flam.

Participation Is A Duty?

I have also heard the argument that by refusing to participate within the system, and by refusing to choose a specimen from the carnival of horrors we are presented every election cycle, we are doing more harm to America than good. This is the most prevalent falsehood of our era.

The bottom line is, Americans have been dancing in the lesser of two evils pageantry for generations and our Constitutional shield has only been further degraded and destroyed in that time. I defy anyone to show how choosing Obama over McCain, or Bush over Gore, or Clinton over Bush Sr. has helped this country or its people. Where are these illusory advantages and benefits of participation? Where has our country gone while the public fettered away years trying to decide which ghoul to hand over the scepter of empire to? Or, the ultimate question; what specifically have they achieved? Have they gained anything? Has any minutia of our lives been made better by following the “lesser of two evils theory”? Only a fool would claim yes…

One might argue that a non-vote is the same as putting all bad candidates on the same footing, and that this would be “wrong”. I disagree. In an election in which all candidates share the same disparaging policies, they are ALREADY on the same footing. We simply refuse to give the farce legitimacy by casting our vote for any one of them.

In the game of chess, the primary goal is to diminish your opponent’s options. To force him into a corner where, no matter which choice he makes, he loses. Chess, however, is not life. In life, intelligent and creative individuals have the ability to walk away from the board completely and implement their own solutions. The more we continue to participate in the rigged game, and the more we continue to view the future as a series of self contained boundaries administered by the establishment instead of a wide open frontier in which all is possible, the more we will lose, until there is nothing left.

Only Cowards Compromise In The Face Of Evil

Good does not compromise with evil. As stated above, there is nothing to be gained by it. I find that the people most prone to suggesting or demanding compromise with oligarchs and tyrants are usually cowards who have never faced down any legitimate struggle in their lives with any passion. But, how do they sell this stunted philosophy to others? The illusion here is one of “reason” or “objectivity”.

Fearful men often use the guise of objectivity (even if they are not) to avoid confrontation, especially confrontation with a supposed authority figure or government. Strangely, their powers of reason and deduction invariably seem to lead them to subservience to the establishment structure. Compromise, for them, is a way to protect their flailing egos by playing the role of the “even handed citizen” while at the same time crawling towards servitude.

The argument to this position would, of course, be that many in the Liberty Movement compromise with evil everyday. That we follow laws we disagree with and that we find reprehensible, and that this makes us somehow “hypocritical”. I would say that this is a very narrow and disingenuous view.

Free minded people do not “follow” reprehensible laws so much as tolerate them while working to dismantle them (“following” infers acceptance). Being honorable and generally of good will, we look for peaceful avenues of redress and change. But, if those avenues are closed to us, and if the injustices expand, the free minded become freedom fighters. Dissent and even revolution are inevitable in the face of tyranny. It is an undeniable feature of human nature.

What I find most interesting though is the conundrum that this conflict of interest creates for the skeptical establishment slave. If the Liberty Movement tolerates bad law while searching for a peaceful path towards change, they call us hypocritical. If the Liberty Movement abandons tolerance and bring force to bear against tyranny and its abuse of the law, they call us “fringe extremists”. Apparently, the only way we can be correct in the eyes of self proclaimed objectivists is if we bow to the constraints of the system, sit back, keep our mouths shut, and enjoy the bread and circuses.

The Greatest Evil Is Moral Relativism

Collectivist governments seek to encourage extreme moral flexibility. Totalitarian regimes cannot survive otherwise. The lesser of two evils sales pitch is, in the end, an extension of the methodology of moral relativism. It trains us to embrace the status quo, whether we like it or not, and to continuously rationalize our adherence to the sham just to get through the day. The mental gymnastics we are required to perform become more complex and unstable. Eventually, in order to ease our consciences which are screaming in agony at the pit of our chests, we have to stop caring about anything, and just go through the motions of participation.

This is not the way to freedom.

There are other ways to secure liberty beyond elections, but for these strategies to be effective, we have to stop asking for permission from the establishment before we take action. Perhaps you seek to step outside the box and away from the controlled paradigm. Perhaps you seek to confront the system head on, either exposing its duplicity and evil, or erasing it as an obstacle completely. The system, its laws, and its political theater are of no consequence, especially when it has been so corrupted.

Moral relativists, though keen on the idea of mutable law, enjoy the trappings of the law as long as it is to their benefit. The law, as I have pointed out in the past, is arbitrary, and always has been. The only true law is the law of inherent and universal conscience. My conscience, as with most other people, tells me that choosing the “lesser of two evils” (an illogical abstraction) sends a message to the elitists that manipulate our culture that I am willing to help them perpetuate their fiction. I become an accomplice in the crime. I commit self mutilation. I give power to the lie.

Such institutionalized misery can only be undone by uncompromising men and women who put principles and conscience before comfort, or even before their own lives. All throughout history, this is how wrong is undone. No society ever changed for the better by casting aside their beliefs and their individualism. No society ever changed for the better by choosing the lesser of two evils. No society ever changed for the better by holding out the hand of friendship to despots, maniacs, and con-men in the hopes that they would be spared just a little less tragedy before their time on this Earth is over…

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Obama vs Romney

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State	Pollster	Poll Date	Obama	Romney
Iowa	Rasmussen Reports	6/11-6/11	46%	47%
National	Rasmussen	6/9-6/11	45%	46%
National	Gallup Tracking	6/5-6/11	46%	45%
North-Carolina	PPP	6/7-6/10	46%	48%
Pennsylvania	Quinnipiac	6/5-6/10	46%	40%
National	IBD CSM TIPP	6/1-6/8	46%	42%
Wisconsin	WeAskAmerica	6/6-6/6	48%	43%
North-Dakota	Mason Dixon	6/4-6/6	39%	52%
National	Monmouth/SurveyUSA/Braun	6/4-6/6	47%	46%
New-York	Siena	6/3-6/6	59%	35%
National	Fox	6/3-6/5	43%	43%
Michigan	EPIC MRA	6/2-6/5	45%	46%
Ohio	Purple Strategies	5/31-6/5	45%	48%
Virginia	Purple Strategies	5/31-6/5	49%	46%
Florida	Purple Strategies	5/31-6/5	49%	45%

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Breaking: Ron Paul Wins Delegates In New Mexico!

Submitted by cevans93 on Tue, 06/12/2012 - 16:17
Delegates
New Mexico

"There is a report that six of the newly elected delegates to the RNC from New Mexico are Ron Paul supporters. This happened last Saturday at the GOP State Convention. Nine other Ron Paul supporters were elected as alternate delegates. Amazing. According to the Romney campaign they will still have to vote for Mitt Romney in Tampa. New Mexico will be represented by only 20 delegates, so this is a significant haul.

Meanwhile, the Mitt Romney campaign continues to fight Ron Paul supporters at every level. It is like the Russo-German front in World War Two. Take no prisoners. Break bones if you have to. In Nevada, having been duly outvoted, his campaign is now rumored to be supporting a bogus, pro Romney appointed slate. It is as if they are afraid of losing the nomination."

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This is amazing news because the New Mexico State Convention was originally to be held this weekend, but quietly happened over last weekend.

Breaking: Ron Paul Wins Delegates In New Mexico! | Peace . Gold . Liberty | Ron Paul 2012

Ron Paul scores surprise delegates in New Mexico!

There is a report that six of the newly elected delegates to the RNC from New Mexico are Ron Paul supporters. This happened last Saturday at the GOP State Convention. Nine other Ron Paul supporters were elected as alternate delegates. Amazing. According to the Romney campaign they will still have to vote for Mitt Romney in Tampa. New Mexico will be represented by only 20 delegates, so this is a significant haul.

Meanwhile, the Mitt Romney campaign continues to fight Ron Paul supporters at every level. It is like the Russo-German front in World War Two. Take no prisoners. Break bones if you have to. In Nevada, having been duly outvoted, his campaign is now rumored to be supporting a bogus, pro Romney appointed slate. It is as if they are afraid of losing the nomination.

The fact is that we can’t stop them from winning the nomination but they can’t stop us from fielding delegates either. So why the fuss? We will be there. We will be a presence. If they leave it alone, there will be hundreds of us, maybe a thousand. And the GOP will have what they need, youth, Hispanics, Independents, the very voters that represent the best chance of a general election win, not to mention the future. If they keep fighting us they will diminish the numbers but we will still be there. So why fight?

The Romney campaign’s paranoia over Ron Paul supporters sometimes reaches comical proportions. In one state they asked questions to eliminate potential Ron Paul supporters filing as delegates. Youth, of course, are suspect, so your age alone can get you eliminated. And Hispanics, who vote in huge numbers for Ron Paul, are sometimes targets. In New Mexico the Romney people struck from the list a Hispanic couple who actually, ironically, supported their man. Longtime Republican activists, they were reportedly dropped for having Latino sounding names.

Join the discussion Wednesday night, 9PM est, 6pm pst.

Bill Kristol says Romney and GOP don’t need Ron Paul supporters.



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Texas victory being overshadowed by Rand.

Submitted by winjeffy on Tue, 06/12/2012 - 21:14
Ron Paul 2012
Texas

I was a delegate this past week at the Texas State GOP Convention and wanted to let everyone on Daily Paul know that we did great and this movement is far from over despite all the attention the Rand Paul comments are getting. It was an amazing few days for the cause of liberty despite the establishment using childish tactic such as scheduling Ron Paul's speech while half the senatorial districts were still in the middle of their caucuses. It also looks like we might of pulled away with the slight majority of delegates.

This nomination process is far from over and lets start getting back to work instead of letting Rand's comments overshadow all of the success we've been having. And if anyone has any pictures or video from the Texas convention, PLEASE post them on daily paul.

Texas victory being overshadowed by Rand. | Peace . Gold . Liberty | Ron Paul 2012

Tom Woods Has Info Ron Will Not Be Endorsing Romney & His New Podcast Coming In August !

Submitted by SaveOurSovereignty on Tue, 06/12/2012 - 21:51
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June.12, 2012

Tom Woods talks briefly why he took down his recent video regarding Ron Paul where he encourages him not to endorse Romney and how he has new information stating he will not, also Tom took my question about when he will start his own daily podcast, he will be starting it in August which is great news.

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Mitt Romney - Disqualified At The RNC For Cheating?

Submitted by zooamerica on Tue, 06/12/2012 - 21:27
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Mitt Romney used every vote fraud trick in the book. There is literally a MOUNTAIN of well documented, hard evidence to present to the RNC legal counsel in Tampa Bay.

Mitt Romney stole one too many votes out of Ron Paul's cookie jar, and he got caught doing it on camera.

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Nevada, Maine, Louisiana, Arizona, Colorado, Washington, Iowa, Oklahoma just to name more than a few. Romney tried to rig these state conventions, and the evidence is indisputable and overwhelming.

He cheated in a major way.

Romney and his minions dislocated prostheic hips, broke fingers, had delegates put under false arrest, turned out the lights, locked the doors, punched a man in the head, created FAKE delegate slates, stuffed ballot boxes, and did NOT follow Robert's Rules of Order!!!!!

Romney broke the GOP's own rules. He did not play fair and square, and got caught with his hands in Ron Paul's cookie jar.

So what is the RNC legal counsel going to do when they're presented with undeniable video evidence of fraud? They're going to want to wash their hands clean of Mitt Romney.

Mitt Romney - Disqualified At The RNC For Cheating? | Peace . Gold . Liberty | Ron Paul 2012

I Have A Conscience...I Will NOT Vote With Conformity...Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death

Submitted by myajace on Tue, 06/12/2012 - 23:08
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Only 1/3 of the colonists believed the Revolutionary War was necessary, and they changed the course of history forever...



I Have A Conscience...I Will NOT Vote With Conformity...Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death | Peace . Gold . Liberty | Ron Paul 2012

I hope your ready... the G.O.P. says they wish too drop Ron Paul from the Republican Party

Get Ready for the Shocker ... a hell of a lot of us are ready to bolt as it is...

the G.O.P. went ROGUE and is viewed just as bad as the Liberal NUT Cases

BY the Way R'Money approves of the NDAA

Indefinate Detention of American Citizens

excuse me ..... you want my vote.... No I didnt think so