Thread: Ted Cruz met with Obama prior to RNC, Endorses Hillary, Rick Perry set to Destroy Cru

We certainly don't know who Cruz is voting for when he is alone in that booth and pulls the lever. I don't think his one vote matters at all at this point, but his endorsement may have helped him more than Trump. It is understandable to see Cruz' defiance considering how Trump mocked and ridiculed his wife and insinuated an association between his father and a presidential assassin. His wife surely must have given him an ultimatum about endorsing Trump or having a happy home life.

I have studied the article and nowhere did I find anything factual about a Hillary endorsement as you all have done so too. It is all speculation and innuendo and the only facts are that the plane ride did happen and Cruz did not endorse Trump.

Unless we are mentally ill and unable to draw logical conclusions we should believe the narrative that Cruz met with Obama and Pelosi just to talk about the cop killings. This is more of a “connect the dots” article so we hope everything will make sense after you finish reading this.

If I don't agree with the article the author suggests I must be either mentally ill or unable to draw logical conclusions.

We strongly believe that Ted Cruz met with Obama to talk about the RNC and what Ted’s new role would be in the narrative of the Democrats and how he would aid and support them.

We strongly believe is not a fact just a mere suggestion with weight.

Almost the entire Republican Party is now angry at Ted Cruz for his Judas betrayal of Donald Trump and call for voting on Hillary Clinton!

I do not recall Cruz calling for voters to vote for Hillary. Voting your conscience is not the same thing. They stand for almost opposite principles and platforms so my conscience would actually be betrayed if I voted for the opposite of what I either believed or thought would be best for me. At best it may be indirectly helping Hillary if you don't vote at all, but I don't see a republican voting for Hillary. Perhaps the undecided or swing voters may be receptive to this suggestion. I will concede this point as it relates to the undecided voters that value Cruz' advice.

Voting your conscience can help Trump with respect to undecided voters that generally feel Clinton is dishonest or far worse. She has been plagued throughout her career with scandals that have been resolved favorably because of her political connections and power, hence undecided voters and even her supporters know that and could reject her because their conscience values honesty and integrity above political persuasion.

Now, with this story we conclude that Trump was right all along about Lyin’ Ted. He truly is the scum of the earth. Depending how you put it and how you arrange all the information you now know about Lyin’ Ted, it is now official or unofficial that LYIN’ TED CRUZ has endorsed Hillary Clinton and his political career with the Republican Party has just ended. His new political career as a Democrat may start soon… who knows?

The story is based on innuendo and deductive reasoning. The conclusion is based on a presumptive narrative that has two facts which are Cruz did fly on that plane and he did not endorse Trump when given the opportunity at the convention. His political career as a republican has more than likely been diminished for now and there is no indication he is looking to be a democrat anytime soon. The author of this article is clearly biased and looking to sell copies of newsprint.

It is more easily understood now than before why Cruz is as disliked by his colleagues as he is.

Judy, please provide a link where Cruz said he is not voting for Trump. Last I heard he was still watching and assessing. Furthermore, there is still the option of not voting. There is still plenty of time for him to fall in line behind Trump. Even though I'll vote for Trump, I can understand the concerns Cruz has. Honestly, I share many of those same concerns.

Originally Posted by MW

That pretty much sums up the actual facts. ...

If you cannot even admit that what they did looked bad, then one can only wonder what you are up to. You are only spin doctoring what the facts point to, that in fact, Cruz and Rubio do not represent sincere opposition to any of the policies of the Obama administration. It is the policies of this administration that gave us these deaths that they so vainly observed. Part of their job as political opposition is to demonstrate their resolve to see changes when the administration changes. This they failed to do. They should have known better, you should know better and I suspect you all do.

Originally Posted by pkskyali

If you cannot even admit that what they did looked bad, then one can only wonder what you are up to. You are only spin doctoring what the facts point to, that in fact, Cruz and Rubio do not represent sincere opposition to any of the policies of the Obama administration. It is the policies of this administration that gave us these deaths that they so vainly observed. Part of their job as political opposition is to demonstrate their resolve to see changes when the administration changes. This they failed to do. They should have known better, you should know better and I suspect you all do.

Actually, it's not me doing the "spin doctoring". Yes, I stand by my position that Cruz did nothing wrong by accepting a ride to Dallas in order to morn the cities fallen police officers. As for Cruz not representing sincere opposition to many of Obama's policies while in office ...... well, you obviously haven't been following Cruz very well if you honestly think that. Cruz has adamantly voiced and shown through legislation that he does not agree with many of Obama's policies.

Flying on Air Force One to Dallas does not look bad on any level. Actually I think it's a good thing that Obama and Cruz were able to put their political differences and hate aside to focus on the horrible murders of the five police officers in Dallas. Your thoughts and ideas on what's good and bad definitely differs from mine. I must be one of those "mentally ill and unable to draw a logical conclusion" people you're talking about. Actually I think I am, based on the facts provided, capable of drawing a logical conclusion of the situation, which simply means one of us is wrong (not mentally ill or illogical). Making mountains out of molehills has never been one of my strengths.

MW wrote:

Actually, it's not me doing the "spin doctoring".

Must be referring to me, but there is no spin doctoring just two basic facts:

1. Cruz did fly to Dallas on Air Force One
2. Cruz did not endorse Trump at RNC Convention.

That's it. Everything else is conjecture. To wonder what one may be up to if one does not admit it did look bad is unnecessary. Perhaps this can be easily reversed and one can wonder what one may be up to if one thinks it did look bad. If you feel that strong about it, make your point and convince us that it looked that bad. Again, these are high level professionals that have to put down their swords from time to time so they can work deals out together and make public appearances such as this. I am in total agreement with MW that is does not look bad on any level flying on Air Force One. BTW, Cruz disparaged Obama quite a bit throughout the debates.

Originally Posted by MW

Judy, please provide a link where Cruz said he is not voting for Trump. Last I heard he was still watching and assessing. Furthermore, there is still the option of not voting. There is still plenty of time for him to fall in line behind Trump. Even though I'll vote for Trump, I can understand the concerns Cruz has. Honestly, I share many of those same concerns.

"still watching and assessing" Trump? Oh please post a link to that!! That might clear up all this confusion.

Originally Posted by Judy

"still watching and assessing" Trump? Oh please post a link to that!! That might clear up all this confusion.

I'm going to assume you couldn't provide a link to support your comment regarding Cruz not voting for Trump. Well, I'm not going to say I heard something I didn't actually hear. Here's the link you asked for:

http://therightscoop.com/ted-cruz-im...ote-for-trump/

I'm not in the habit of making opinions and trying to pass them off as statements of fact. That's just not how I roll.

MW, I'm relying on the numerous statements published and broadcast on Cruz's statements that he was not in the habit of supporting someone who insults his wife and disparages his father.

Originally Posted by MW

I'm going to assume you couldn't provide a link to support your comment regarding Cruz not voting for Trump. Well, I'm not going to say I heard something I didn't actually hear. Here's the link you asked for:

http://therightscoop.com/ted-cruz-im...ote-for-trump/

I'm not in the habit of making opinions and trying to pass them off as statements of fact. That's just not how I roll.

Well, that is a June 7th article, 5 almost 6 weeks before his decision not to endorse Trump at the Convention, a big decision that got him booed off the stage. I guess you've not been keeping up with him too much since June. Since then he refused to endorse Trump at the convention and since then he repeatedly tells anyone who cares to listen he's not in the habit of supporting someone who insults his wife and disparages his father.

At this point, it's really like "who cares"? What matters now is for Texas to get this creep out of the US Senate. That's what a lot of US are hoping for. But you all who like him can hope otherwise. It's a free country.

Cruz campaign smeared Trump's wife with a photo they distributed in Utah. Then Trump attacked BACK!

Cruz...you might want to look into a career of selling Used Cars! Snake!