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    pkskyali wrote:

    Ted Cruz and Obama have a lot in common. They both have fathers who were not citizens. Ted Cruz was not even born in the US, although it is pretty clear that Obama was, because that's where his mother was when he was born. (Connect the dots there.) Ted Cruz's indifference to his own US citizenship is what drove a lot of outrage against his candidacy for the Republican nomination, myself included.
    That is one view. Their common interest now is their disdain or hatred for Trump. Cruz could have flown back sooner and who else (Rubio) just recently flew on Air Force One to Florida after the Orlando massacre. Doesn't matter much to me, I liked Cruz and supported his platform as a candidate against illegal immigration. His actions at the RNC were despicable and his ride to Dallas could have been nothing more than a conversation about Trump and these guys are high level professionals so big deal. How the hell is anything supposed to get done in this country if the politicians can't even hang out and converse for a couple of hours in a bi-partisan spirit on an airplane or in the oval office like Tip O'Neil and Ronnie.

    In the end, Cruz submitted a script to the RNC and ditched it for his own words at the convention. An airplane ride is visual and explainable, an endorsement would have squared Cruz with his pledge and made the flight nothing more than a ride to Dallas on Air Force One. He certainly is not a middle child constantly aiming to please!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post

    Who in the world is the EU Times? Never even heard of this news source. Pot stirring by the media is not unusual, but I'm surprised to actually see folks jump on board so quickly. Heck, I'm still looking for something somewhere else that says Cruz actually endorsed Hillary Clinton. Guess anyone can throw anything out there without proof and there will be some who will jump right on it.

    We believe, we think, follow the dots, blah, blah, blah. A lot of allegations with almost no substantiated facts.

    Our News people here in the states sugar coat there reporting unlike many news agencies in other countries.

    EU Times is the European Times.

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    We certainly don't know who Cruz is voting for when he is alone in that booth and pulls the lever. I don't think his one vote matters at all at this point, but his endorsement may have helped him more than Trump. It is understandable to see Cruz' defiance considering how Trump mocked and ridiculed his wife and insinuated an association between his father and a presidential assassin. His wife surely must have given him an ultimatum about endorsing Trump or having a happy home life.

    I have studied the article and nowhere did I find anything factual about a Hillary endorsement as you all have done so too. It is all speculation and innuendo and the only facts are that the plane ride did happen and Cruz did not endorse Trump.

    Unless we are mentally ill and unable to draw logical conclusions we should believe the narrative that Cruz met with Obama and Pelosi just to talk about the cop killings. This is more of a “connect the dots” article so we hope everything will make sense after you finish reading this.
    If I don't agree with the article the author suggests I must be either mentally ill or unable to draw logical conclusions.

    We strongly believe that Ted Cruz met with Obama to talk about the RNC and what Ted’s new role would be in the narrative of the Democrats and how he would aid and support them.
    We strongly believe is not a fact just a mere suggestion with weight.

    Almost the entire Republican Party is now angry at Ted Cruz for his Judas betrayal of Donald Trump and call for voting on Hillary Clinton!
    I do not recall Cruz calling for voters to vote for Hillary. Voting your conscience is not the same thing. They stand for almost opposite principles and platforms so my conscience would actually be betrayed if I voted for the opposite of what I either believed or thought would be best for me. At best it may be indirectly helping Hillary if you don't vote at all, but I don't see a republican voting for Hillary. Perhaps the undecided or swing voters may be receptive to this suggestion. I will concede this point as it relates to the undecided voters that value Cruz' advice.

    Voting your conscience can help Trump with respect to undecided voters that generally feel Clinton is dishonest or far worse. She has been plagued throughout her career with scandals that have been resolved favorably because of her political connections and power, hence undecided voters and even her supporters know that and could reject her because their conscience values honesty and integrity above political persuasion.

    Now, with this story we conclude that Trump was right all along about Lyin’ Ted. He truly is the scum of the earth. Depending how you put it and how you arrange all the information you now know about Lyin’ Ted, it is now official or unofficial that LYIN’ TED CRUZ has endorsed Hillary Clinton and his political career with the Republican Party has just ended. His new political career as a Democrat may start soon… who knows?
    The story is based on innuendo and deductive reasoning. The conclusion is based on a presumptive narrative that has two facts which are Cruz did fly on that plane and he did not endorse Trump when given the opportunity at the convention. His political career as a republican has more than likely been diminished for now and there is no indication he is looking to be a democrat anytime soon. The author of this article is clearly biased and looking to sell copies of newsprint.

    It is more easily understood now than before why Cruz is as disliked by his colleagues as he is.

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    BAM!! Ted Cruz’ Secret Meeting With Obama, Dems, Days Before RNC

    BAM!! Ted Cruz’ Secret Meeting With Obama, Dems, Days Before RNC

    Wednesday, July 27, 2016 17:06



    According to an article in the Dallas Morning News Senator Ted Cruz at the invitation of President Obama joined the President and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi as well as two Texas Democrats from Congress on Air Force One just days before the Republican National Convention.

    The flight was to the memorial Service of the 5 slain Dallas Police Officers and the story line as to why the contentious foes would travel together was for a show of unity at a time of national mourning.

    But this only begs the question if the purpose of the flight together was for a show of unity, then why are there virtually no pictures and not a single mainstream article about this so-called display of unity? If Obama and Cruz wanted to use the moment to show unity, they could have easily had a slew of reporters at their disposal, at the drop of a hat and eager to please.

    It is highly likely that the last thing Cruz would want is to be seen traveling with Obama for any reason which alsoworks against the supposed “unity” narrative.
    The fact that this story has received virtually no press, makes it clear this wasn’t really the plan by either Ted Cruz or Barack Obama.

    On the other hand, it would be a smart move politically for the Democrats to be seen showing “unity” with a leading Republican, as a cover story while knowing of course this would tarnish the Senator’s reputation among conservatives and at the same time making Trump look bad at the RNC and the Party divided.

    Obama and Pelosi essentially would have two political slam dunks for the price of one.

    It brings to mind another recent meeting and that between Bill Clinton and Attorney General Loretta Lynch who we are told just happened to have their planes cross paths at an airport in Phoenix where they decided to spend 30 minutes privately talking about Clinton’s grandchildren and his golf game, aboard Lynch’s private plane.

    Many have raised the question as to why the AG would meet with Bill Clinton in the midst of her department investigating his wife, something that drew a great deal of criticism to Lynch immediately after the news story was broke by a local reporter that the two had met.

    One week and a day after that meeting on July 5th, FBI Director Comey called a press conference in which he announced that he would not recommend an indictment of Hillary Clinton over her email scandal, despite evidence strongly suggesting that laws were violated.

    Fast forward two weeks later, Cruz flies in style with the dynamic duo of Obama and Pelosi:

    With this under the radar meeting between Cruz, Obama and Pelosi we are supposed to somehow believe this was an act of unity, despite no evidence to support that claim?

    More likely, we were not supposed to know that this rendezvous in the sky between the political rivals even took place, and that has been successful.
    It has gone purposely under reported and “unity” was the narrative to use should the story get out and “grow legs”.

    One week after the Air Force One meeting, Cruz fails to endorse Donald Trump at the RNC.

    And he does so LOUD and PROUD assuring the headlining spectacle that was to follow.



    Some have asked a very good question- why would Cruz bother to attend the Trump coronation if you will in the first place, if not to endorse the nominee? I mean, why not just stay home and not endorse him rather than making a public spectacle?

    Some suggest it was a political calculation meant to set him up for a run in 2020. Angering a majority of Republican’s as he did, seems to be a strange way to endear one self to a future presidential bid, and Cruz strikes me as a man too smart dis the nominee at his own convention as a plan for political gain.

    What makes more sense is that whole idea was to make Donald Trump’s big day look bad and his Party in chaos.

    A bitter man just might do something like this and his bitterness showed the next day when Cruz explained his reasoning for not supporting Trump the night before. He took the opportunity to slam Trump yet again.



    But is bitterness and anger enough to make someone go on live TV before millions and possibly extinguish any hopes of ever being President in the future or was there a quidproquo that influenced him on board Air Force One of which we don’t know what Ted’s ultimate pay off was or will be in the future?

    I don’t know exactly what may or may not have been said to Cruz or asked of him, if anything aboard Air Force One. But I do understand how the Democrats, especially Obama and Pelosi work, and I am certainly not buying this was for the sake of “unity”.

    Interestingly two other high profile and disenfranchised Republican’s with ties to Socialist and Democrat supporter George Soros, both of whom in their own right found ways to disrupt and bring disharmony and bad press to the RNC.

    Ohio Governor John Kasich, has appeared to be a sore loser in his run for President by not even bothering to show up at the RNC which was in his home state, took some $700,000 from a George Soros funded group during the primaries.

    Could it be that the Kasich no show at the RNC was a sort of payback to Soros for the 700k, and like Cruz, was the idea in fact to make Trump and the Republicans seem dis-unified?

    While we are talking about sore losers and their ties to George Soros, let’s not forget about Jeb Bush and his ties to the leftist billionaire.

    From Breitbart:

    “Bush’s ties to the left-wing Democratic donor could cast further suspicion on his personal business dealings during the Republican primary season.

    Bush is the chairman of BH Logistics, a $26 million private equity fund that was incorporated in April 2014. Who invested in BH Logistics?

    Bush’s firm received a major investment from HNA Group, a Chinese private equity firm. Bush took the money from HNA Group and spent it to invest in the gas shipping company Dorian LPG, which is incorporated in the Republic of The Marshall Islands.

    What is HNA Group? And more importantly, who funds it?

    Look no further than George Soros.

    HNA Group’s chairman Chen Feng is one of China’s wealthiest businessmen, and he has Soros to thank for it. Feng, chairman of Hainan Airlines, secured a $25 million investment from Soros in 1995 after a personal New York City meeting. In 2000, he formed HNA Group to become the parent company of Hainan Airlines. Soros invested an additional $25 million in Hainan Airlines in 2005.

    HNA Group now reports $17.5 billion in revenue and owns $58 billion in assets.”

    Like Cruz and Kasich, Jeb Bush not only did not keep his pledge to support whoever the eventual Republican nominee for President would be, he stabbed Trump in the back not just once but twice, just before the RNC.

    Two weeks before the RNC Bush had a sit-down one on one interview with MSNBC. Yes, I did write MSNBC, that is not a typo. Not exactly a bastion of conservative leaning news over there. It is more like crawling to the enemy camp in political terms.

    Then on the very eve of the RNC, Bush writes a rather scathing editorial for the uber-liberal Washington Post.

    “While he has no doubt tapped into the anxiety so prevalent in the United States today, I do not believe Donald Trump reflects the principles or inclusive legacy of the Republican Party. And I sincerely hope he doesn’t represent its future”
    That my friends is a sideways invitation to vote for Hillary Clinton, but it is an invitation nevertheless and written exclusively not for National Review or the Wall Street Journal, but the Washington Post.
    This is the same Washington Post that made news because they assigned 20 staffers to dig into “every phase” of Donald Trump’s life.

    This is of course mostly just a theory when it comes to what the real motive was behind the ride on Air Force One that Cruz took with Obama and his friends. We may never know for certain unless say Wikileaks has an email they are about to dump on us.

    I for one am not having any of this “unity” cover story on a trip between Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, two other Democrats and an angry Ted Cruz one week before the RNC that was completely hush hush by the establishment media and concluded in the manner it did.

    Our three amigo’s', Ted, Jeb and Kasich are suddenly looking more like three turncoats while Hillary, Obama, Pelosi and Soros are having a good laugh.

    http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-con...c-3167391.html


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